XP Updates?


M

Mark Twain

I have a Dell XPS 8500, with Windows 7 Professional, SP1,
with Spywareblaster, SuperAntiSpware, Malwarebytes, Avast,
Windows Defender and Windows firewall.

(1) TB HD
Intel (R) Core (TM) i7-33-3770 CPU @ 3.40 GHz 3.40 GHz
Ram 12.0 GB
System type : 64-bit operating system


I have also have a Dell Dimension 8200 with XP, SP3, with
Spywareblaster, , SuperAntiSpware, Avast, Malwarebytes and
Windows firewall.

Seagate Barracuda 7200 HD 160Gb
System type: 32-bit operating system

As I understand it, Microsoft no longer supports XP and so there
are no longer updates or service packs. My question is this, is there
some site that provides updates to XP? or do I just use my 8200
as is with no updates?

Thanks,
Robert
 
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Paul

Mark said:
I have a Dell XPS 8500, with Windows 7 Professional, SP1,
with Spywareblaster, SuperAntiSpware, Malwarebytes, Avast,
Windows Defender and Windows firewall.

(1) TB HD
Intel (R) Core (TM) i7-33-3770 CPU @ 3.40 GHz 3.40 GHz
Ram 12.0 GB
System type : 64-bit operating system


I have also have a Dell Dimension 8200 with XP, SP3, with
Spywareblaster, , SuperAntiSpware, Avast, Malwarebytes and
Windows firewall.

Seagate Barracuda 7200 HD 160Gb
System type: 32-bit operating system

As I understand it, Microsoft no longer supports XP and so there
are no longer updates or service packs. My question is this, is there
some site that provides updates to XP? or do I just use my 8200
as is with no updates?

Thanks,
Robert

You use your 8200 with XP, without adding any more updates.

*******

There is a Point Of Sale (POS) hack, where an OS
which is the same as WinXP, you can tap into its
update stream. But I haven't bothered with this.

http://www.zdnet.com/registry-hack-enables-continued-updates-for-windows-xp-7000029851/

So that hack is only for people who feel the
updates are magical or something :)

Paul
 
T

Tecknomage

I have a Dell XPS 8500, with Windows 7 Professional, SP1,
with Spywareblaster, SuperAntiSpware, Malwarebytes, Avast,
Windows Defender and Windows firewall.

(1) TB HD
Intel (R) Core (TM) i7-33-3770 CPU @ 3.40 GHz 3.40 GHz
Ram 12.0 GB
System type : 64-bit operating system


I have also have a Dell Dimension 8200 with XP, SP3, with
Spywareblaster, , SuperAntiSpware, Avast, Malwarebytes and
Windows firewall.

Seagate Barracuda 7200 HD 160Gb
System type: 32-bit operating system

As I understand it, Microsoft no longer supports XP and so there
are no longer updates or service packs. My question is this, is there
some site that provides updates to XP? or do I just use my 8200
as is with no updates?

Thanks,
Robert

Not exactly true.

On you WinXP rig you should be using "Microsoft Updates."

If you are still using "Windows Updates" see the right side and change
to "Microsoft Updates" will update ALL Microsoft software.

With "Microsoft Updates" running WinXP will still get updates NOT
specific to WinXP. Example the "Malware Removal Tool" is applicable
to ALL distributions of Windows OS.

What you will see is less updates and only to Microsoft software (not
WinXP).




--
=========== Tecknomage ===========
Computer Systems Specialist
IT Technician
(retired)
San Diego, CA
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

As I understand it, Microsoft no longer supports XP and so there
are no longer updates or service packs.

Correct.


My question is this, is there
some site that provides updates to XP?


No, and if there were, you shouldn't use it. Getting Windows updates
from someone other than Microsoft would be *extremely* risky.

or do I just use my 8200
as is with no updates?


Yes. Or better, switch to a more recent version of Windows.
 
M

Mark Twain

Hello Ken,

You mean for example to install Windows 7 Pro on the 8200 but
would it work on such an older systems? Also where would I
obtain the OS disk for installation?

Thanks,
Robert
 
M

Mark Twain

Hello Paul,

I may just change over to 'Microsoft Updates'
and that should be fine although Ken suggested
I could switch to a more up to date version of
Windows on the 8200 but I don't know if it could
handle it or where would I get the installation
CD's?

Robert
 
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K

Ken Blake, MVP

You mean for example to install Windows 7 Pro on the 8200 but
would it work on such an older systems?


Depends on the hardware configuration (what is it?) and whether you
need any Windows 7 drivers for it (check on the OEM's web site).

Also where would I
obtain the OS disk for installation?


Not many stores still sell them, but you can probably find it at
Amazon.com.
 
M

Mark Twain

Hello Paul,

I tried to run Microsoft update but each time
when I've tried to install Active X and clicked
install on the information bar nothing happens.

I also saw the compatibility icon at the top center
and so clicked that but it seems to be in some sort
of loop and never completes as the bar on the bottom
of the screen shows. I let this run for an hour and the
bottom bar never went past halfway. Does it usually
take this long?

In any case, I cannot get my Microsoft update to run
on the 8200 because I cannot install Active X.

Thoughts/suggestions?
Robert
 
M

Mark Twain

Hello Ken,

I think at this point I'll just use the
Microsoft updates and I can always update
the OS at a later date.

Robert
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Hello Ken,

I think at this point I'll just use the
Microsoft updates and I can always update
the OS at a later date.


Your choice, of course, but if you continue to run an obsolete
un-updated operating system, the risk of your becoming infected with
malware grows every day.
 
B

Bob F

Mark said:
Hello Paul,

I tried to run Microsoft update but each time
when I've tried to install Active X and clicked
install on the information bar nothing happens.

I also saw the compatibility icon at the top center
and so clicked that but it seems to be in some sort
of loop and never completes as the bar on the bottom
of the screen shows. I let this run for an hour and the
bottom bar never went past halfway. Does it usually
take this long?

In any case, I cannot get my Microsoft update to run
on the 8200 because I cannot install Active X.

I'vr had problems in the past updating to SP3. IIRC, there'd onr update you have
to force before it will do updates properly. CAn't remember what the trick was
though.
 
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Paul

Bob said:
I'vr had problems in the past updating to SP3. IIRC, there'd onr update you have
to force before it will do updates properly. CAn't remember what the trick was
though.

Maybe a security setting in IE is involved. I hate the
mess of controls in IE, that affect stuff like this.

Or, some AV software is blocking the attempt
to accept the ActiveX.

*******

And I didn't rush off and change Windows Update to Microsoft
Update. I used the Baseline Security Analyser, to see what
patches my system needed. It reported my usage of PowerPoint Viewer
and Excel Viewer, needed on the order of fifteen patches. I
searched for and downloaded each one of those individually
from Microsoft and applied them. This was a "good enough"
solution for my needs. All this, so I wouldn't
need to mess around or bust Windows Update.

MBSA - for figuring out what stuff is out of date...

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/cc184924.aspx

Paul
 
G

Good Guy

As I understand it, Microsoft no longer supports XP and so there
are no longer updates or service packs. My question is this, is there
some site that provides updates to XP? or do I just use my 8200
as is with no updates?

Your understanding is correct. As of 8th April 2014 Microsoft stopped
all work on windows XP operating system and so there won't be any
security updates for that wonderful operating system. however, if you
are very conscious of your computer's security then clearly you should
not be using Windows XP and instead buy a new laptop or Desktop from
DELL and start using Windows 8.1. Windows 8.1 is claimed to be very
secure and people are loving it. I mentioned DELL because they have
better deals on new machines until end of October 2014 so it is time to
grab a better machine before prices starts to rise once again.

There is a very good chance that prices will rise from October onwards
because of corporate employees coming back from vacation and start
renewing their infrastructure and Christmas shoppers will also join the
bandwagon.

Don't waste your time on workarounds of getting security patches for
your XP machine because Microsoft has warned people not to install
patches from sources that are not official. I guess it is common sense.
 
P

Paul

Good said:
Your understanding is correct. As of 8th April 2014 Microsoft stopped
all work on windows XP operating system and so there won't be any
security updates for that wonderful operating system. however, if you
are very conscious of your computer's security then clearly you should
not be using Windows XP and instead buy a new laptop or Desktop from
DELL and start using Windows 8.1. Windows 8.1 is claimed to be very
secure and people are loving it. I mentioned DELL because they have
better deals on new machines until end of October 2014 so it is time to
grab a better machine before prices starts to rise once again.

There is a very good chance that prices will rise from October onwards
because of corporate employees coming back from vacation and start
renewing their infrastructure and Christmas shoppers will also join the
bandwagon.

Don't waste your time on workarounds of getting security patches for
your XP machine because Microsoft has warned people not to install
patches from sources that are not official. I guess it is common sense.

He already has a Dell 8500 with i7 processor and Windows 7,
is secure as a bug in a rug, and doesn't need a sales pitch.

The Dell 8200 running WinXP is his second machine. When one
machine is broken, the other one comes in handy for calling
for help. The idea is, not to break both of them at the same
time.

Paul
 
G

Good Guy

He already has a Dell 8500 with i7 processor and Windows 7,
is secure as a bug in a rug, and doesn't need a sales pitch.

why is he posting a question on WindowsXP newsgroup asking about
WindowsXP updates? what has Windows 7 got to do with WindowsXP? You
can't install XP updates on Windows 7 machine when he could easily get
official updates for Windows 7. Surely he must still be using an XP
machine.

His Current DELL machine may not be able to install Windows 8 because
DELL does not provide drivers for old machines. For example, My
Optiplex760 does not have Windows 8 drivers from Dell's official website
so I can't upgrade this to Windows 8. I have other three laptops with
Windows 8 but my desktop is still using Win7.

Sales Pitch? Are you on drugs again? Your addiction to crack cocaine
is driving you potty.
 
B

Buffalo

"Good Guy" wrote in message news:[email protected]
why is he posting a question on WindowsXP newsgroup asking about WindowsXP
updates? what has Windows 7 got to do with WindowsXP? You can't install XP
updates on Windows 7 machine when he could easily get official updates for
Windows 7. Surely he must still be using an XP machine.

His Current DELL machine may not be able to install Windows 8 because DELL
does not provide drivers for old machines. For example, My Optiplex760
does not have Windows 8 drivers from Dell's official website so I can't
upgrade this to Windows 8. I have other three laptops with Windows 8 but
my desktop is still using Win7.

Sales Pitch? Are you on drugs again? Your addiction to crack cocaine is
driving you potty.

Read the OP first post again. He says " I also have a Dell Dimension 8200
with XP, SP3" and that is what the subject was about.
Your remarks to Paul are pretty BS.
 
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Good Guy

Read the OP first post again. He says " I also have a Dell Dimension
8200 with XP, SP3" and that is what the subject was about.

So why is that drug addict talking about Windows7?

Your remarks to Paul are pretty BS.

Are you employed by that drug addict to look after his well being? What
qualifications have you got to do this job? The guy clearly needs a
professional therapy and you don't appear to be qualified to do that.
Isn't that so?
 
M

Mark Twain

The Dell 8200 running WinXP is his second machine. When one

machine is broken, the other one comes in handy for calling

for help. The idea is, not to break both of them at the same

time.



Paul




Exactly; I do not use it to surf the Internet or anything else. I
use it just as you describe and only do scans etc.

However it just occurred to me to post the question so I can keep
it as current as possible.

I bookmarked your MBSA link and will go through it.

Thanks,
Robert
 
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Hot-Text

Mark Twain said:
Hello Paul,

I tried to run Microsoft update but each time
when I've tried to install Active X and clicked
install on the information bar nothing happens.

First you have to Remove the old install Active X
To get to New One


By Go to your
Internet Properties
In Browsing history
Click on Setting

it will open
Temporary Internet Files and history
Click on
View objects

Right Click on
MUWebControl Class
Click Remove

Right Click on
Microsoft Download Manager ActiveX control
Click Remove

Close
Downloaded Program Files

Temporary Internet Files and history
Click OK

Internet Properties
Delete Browsing History
Temporary Internet Files
Cookies

Close
Delete Browsing History

Internet Properties
Click OK

Close Browser

Now Run your Microsoft update
 
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