Norton & McAfee Antivirus

[Philip K.]

Hello Granny,
I am not sure who you are responding to since your lengthy reply came
under David H. Lipman's post. What's wrong with that post. It was in
response to mine. Why don't you check out Kurttails older posts before you
write a long complaint. Has he ever failed to insult anyone even on the few
occasions when he provided a partial answer? Do you enjoy his aggression
and do you think no one should ever respond to it. Since you too have
jumped into this discussion, do you know of any organization which checks
anti-virus programs. I think that would be more to the point.

 

[kurttrail]

Take your psychology pills before you do any more posting. The
guards will take your computer away.

Thanks for proving the point that you are one of the ones you were
bitichin' about in your original post, that are getting upset over this
Symancrap nonsense.

And what, pray tell, are "psychology pills?" Non-MD psychologists,
which make up the vast majority of psychologists, cannot prescribe meds.
It is psychiatrists that prescribe meds.

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[kurttrail]

Thanks for all the information. Yes, I have had my problems with
the registry being "crapped" up by Norton so that I could not even
load their own new version. On the other hand, the US government,
major banks, and corporations use it so it must be doing the job of
blocking viruses better than any other "crap-ware". If no one is
monitoring Freeware on a daily basis, am I not taking a big chance
with it.

They use a different type of AV than most home users. And the US gov't
helped had IRS info on the web that nurtured identity thiefs in their
infancy. Banks and corporations haven't been immune to getting knocked
down by viruses, so I wouldn't be following those institutions over the
cliff, lemming.

Just as an aside -- doesn't this news group have a moderator.

Yep, here I am! kurttrail, Self-anointed Moderator!

A
few angry lunatics are allowed to jump in wherever they want to.

Dude, you are the only angry lunatic posting in this thread. But as
moderator, I just point this kind of stuff out, as you are totally
harmless, except to yourself.

On
all the other news groups that I have visited they are quickly
blocked by a moderator.

And that's why you are posting here. I'm a kind and benevolent
self-anointed moderator! ;-)

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[kurttrail]

People come to this page for help from others and for someone to jump
in only to call others names and try to put them down and have no
intention to help the one asking for help is uncalled for.I myself
learn a lot from newsgroups and forums from RESPECTFUL people who
know the answers and dont mind sharing them with us. What would make
one want to jump in and call others names like the posters above just
did is beyond me unless they just need attention or something but I
am sure others will agree that the only one who need the
phycharitrist are the ones who get on these helpful sites and have
nothing better to do than to name call and try to make the others
look stupid. If you people want to do CHILDISH things like the name
calling and belittle others why not go outside and play with the
neighborhood bullys and stay off helpful liks like these. You really
only make YOURSELF look like the inmature person who You really
are.If You are not grown up enough for big people computer things
than stick to the inmature pages that You will probably go to when
You leave this site.

You really are a granny!

Life is too short to be serious all the time. And if you look at most
of the threads where all the fun is, it is in these totally off-topic
threads, that really have no place in this group about Windows XP.

And while YOU may not see some of us that aren't serious all the time
helping, that doesn't necessarily reflect reality. I know I don't read
every post, and I would doubt there are more the a handful that actually
have no life at all to read every single posts.

Have a beer, and enjoy life. Reality is too f*#ked up to take life
seriously all the time. Loosen up the girdle, and laugh! You'll live a
longer, and happier life for it!

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[kurttrail]

Hello Granny,
I am not sure who you are responding to since your lengthy reply
came under David H. Lipman's post. What's wrong with that post. It
was in response to mine. Why don't you check out Kurttails older
posts before you write a long complaint. Has he ever failed to
insult anyone even on the few occasions when he provided a partial
answer? Do you enjoy his aggression and do you think no one should
ever respond to it. Since you too have jumped into this discussion,
do you know of any organization which checks anti-virus programs. I
think that would be more to the point.

Your totally off-topic point.

You see, if their were a more proactive moderator here, you OP would
have never made it to the NG server to propagate to all the NG servers
around the world, and to be archived, as it is your topic that doesn't
belong here. You are so, so lucky I am such a kind and benevolent
self-anointed moderator!

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[Plato]

Just as an aside -- doesn't this news group have a moderator. A

Yes it does. I know of two posters who have been "moderated".

 

[kurttrail]

Yes it does. I know of two posters who have been "moderated".

Hell, I've been censored for even mentioning a certain K Man! ;-)

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[Plato]

People come to this page for help from others and for someone to jump in only
to call others names and try to put them down and have no intention to help
the one asking for help is uncalled for.I myself learn a lot from newsgroups

This is the nature of USEnet. If you dont like it, ask for a refund.

 

[Guest]

Philipk, I never said anything was wrong with the david lipman post, I am not
stupid I can read, I know it was in responce to your post, maybe You should
re-read My post, I was saying someone post a question and others give helpful
answers, then others jump in and call the posters names and such and and it
is uncalled for. I was trying to help You out by saying what I said, then You
have to answer to me as if I am in the total wrong here like I was the one
doing the name calling and saying the bad things to You. I was here to defend
You, then You say my responce should of been more to the point as far as the
antivirus, You think You were to the point saying someone is sick in the
head?????

Kurttrail has to say You really are a granny, Yes I am a 46 yr. old
grandma, have a 1 yr old Grandaughter, but I know that wasnt Your point in
calling me a Granny, and I am drinking a beer and as far as the girdle, I
have to this day never wore one, 120 lb people need not wear a girdle. Thank
You for the advice anyway.

 

[Philip K.]

Hello Granny,
Well thanks for the apology. Anyway, do you have a better description for
him? Do you like his post from him to you? Consider yourself lucky,
that you were not subjected to some of his other posts. He let you off
easy. Since you choose to lecture some one who is forty years older than
you, look at the following snippets from his posts of about a month ago.
Look at his signature. Then let me know whether you think he is sick in the
head.

"Anti-Symantec but you refuse to mention any product that you would trust to
protect your own computers when asked.



Wrong, LameGirl. I refuse to answer you. I don't respect slime, like you.



And by the way, what products I would recommend wouldn't make Symacrap suck
any less, and has absolutely NO BEARING on the difference of opinion between
Symantec Supporters, and those that wouldn't touch Symancrap with your
needle dick.



I see you're still unable to answer an on-topic question, and that you
resort to being foul when you need to hide.



And about your needle dick. Your problem is with God, not me. I had
nothing to do with your needle dick, and that is something that you are just
gonna have to learn to live with!



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[Philip K.]

Hello Granny,

At 46 years old you must be younger than most of the posters here. Why
the Granny act?

No one has called you stupid. You have caused confusion by posting in the
wrong place. If you wanted to reply to me or Kurttrail or Winux P (who
thinks I should see a psychiatrist for asking about anti-virus programs)
then you should post a reply to their post. I, Kurtrail, and Plato posted a
reply to your post under your post. If you want to post a general reply,
then it usually (but not always) should be posted under the initial post.
When it is not clear to whom you are responding, use their name.

Now that I have cooled down a bit, let me "help you out" as you put it
although I am still not sure how I was being helped. I was a machine gunner
in a tank in World War 2. Telling us that it was not nice to be killing and
crippling each other with bullets and bombs is like telling people to be
nice on this news group. You are only going to get shot for it. In any
case your simple, virtuous, grandmother attitude will only irritate a lot of
people. It's the wrong style. There are no children here.

Anyway, you must have gotten yourself involved in this thread because of
your interest in the title's reference to Norton and McAffe. Do you wish to
comment on that?

 

[kurttrail]

Philipk, I never said anything was wrong with the david lipman post,
I am not stupid I can read, I know it was in responce to your post,
maybe You should re-read My post, I was saying someone post a
question and others give helpful answers, then others jump in and
call the posters names and such and and it is uncalled for. I was
trying to help You out by saying what I said, then You have to answer
to me as if I am in the total wrong here like I was the one doing the
name calling and saying the bad things to You. I was here to defend
You, then You say my responce should of been more to the point as far
as the antivirus, You think You were to the point saying someone is
sick in the head?????

Kurttrail has to say You really are a granny, Yes I am a 46 yr. old
grandma, have a 1 yr old Grandaughter, but I know that wasnt Your
point in calling me a Granny, and I am drinking a beer and as far as
the girdle, I have to this day never wore one, 120 lb people need
not wear a girdle. Thank You for the advice anyway.

Yep. Take the jokes seriously, and don't get the point I was making.
Put simply, don't take things so seriously. Life is too short to go
around with a serious stick up your ass all the time.

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[kurttrail]

Hello Granny,
Well thanks for the apology.

You are totally delusional. I saw no apology.

Anyway, do you have a better
description for him? Do you like his post from him to you?
Consider yourself lucky, that you were not subjected to some of his
other posts. He let you off easy. Since you choose to lecture some
one who is forty years older than you, look at the following snippets
from his posts of about a month ago. Look at his signature. Then let
me know whether you think he is sick in the head.

LOL! What is wrong with my signature? Why do people like you have a
problem with me making fun of myself?

"Anti-Symantec but you refuse to mention any product that you would
trust to protect your own computers when asked.

That is wrong. I have answered people actually looking for such advise,
and did so as recently as last week. I just won't answer
Symancrapphants and others I don't respect.

Wrong, LameGirl. I refuse to answer you. I don't respect slime,
like you.

Yep. She is slime.

And by the way, what products I would recommend wouldn't make
Symacrap suck any less, and has absolutely NO BEARING on the
difference of opinion between Symantec Supporters, and those that
wouldn't touch Symancrap with your needle dick.

And what products I would recommend have absolutely no bearing on how
much Symancrap sucks.

I see you're still unable to answer an on-topic question, and that you
resort to being foul when you need to hide.

The topic was Symancrap, not other products I's recommend. And I didn't
hide. I had the last posts in that thread, and I was the ONLY one that
stayed on the topic of Symancrap.

And about your needle dick. Your problem is with God, not me. I had
nothing to do with your needle dick, and that is something that you
are just gonna have to learn to live with!

Yep. Her problems is something she will have to deal with on her own.

But what does this have to do with you, and your anger with me over my
views that Symancrap sucks?




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[kurttrail]

Hello Granny,

At 46 years old you must be younger than most of the posters here.
Why the Granny act?

No one has called you stupid. You have caused confusion by posting
in the wrong place. If you wanted to reply to me or Kurttrail or
Winux P (who thinks I should see a psychiatrist for asking about
anti-virus programs) then you should post a reply to their post. I,
Kurtrail, and Plato posted a reply to your post under your post. If
you want to post a general reply, then it usually (but not always)
should be posted under the initial post. When it is not clear to whom
you are responding, use their name.
Now that I have cooled down a bit, let me "help you out" as you put
it although I am still not sure how I was being helped. I was a
machine gunner in a tank in World War 2.

Obviously, you are suffering from long-term shell shock!

Telling us that it was not
nice to be killing and crippling each other with bullets and bombs is
like telling people to be nice on this news group. You are only
going to get shot for it. In any case your simple, virtuous,
grandmother attitude will only irritate a lot of people. It's the
wrong style. There are no children here.
Anyway, you must have gotten yourself involved in this thread
because of your interest in the title's reference to Norton and
McAffe. Do you wish to comment on that?

It is off-topic to this group about WINDOWS XP! Why are you fanning the
flames on such OFF-TOPIC NONSENSE? Are you just a troll? That is the
appearance, old fart.

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[Guest]

Ok Men, My apology to ALL who I pissed off,
I Myself use Norton Internet Security with Antispyware. Have used Norton for
5 years now, took a while to understand the whole program to set it all right
so it wasnt always popping up every time I turned around, But I use My
computer for shopping on line ALOT and such and with it I feel safe. I am not
saying it is the best out there nor the worse, I honestly dont know. I do
know that in the 5 yrs I have used it I have had no virus or anything.I also
have Adaware and Spyware blaster and run them couple times a week. Dont know
much about the other programs but with Norton if under an attack You can go
in and view who the attacker is, it will show You on a map of the world the
country, city, and the internet provider in which the attacker is comming
from, You may then file a complaint with the attackers internet provider for
attacking Your computer. The cost was 79.00 and I got a 30.00 rebate so that
wasnt too bad.

Ok I am now open for attack Guys.
As far as the stick up my ass the only stick I am putting up my ass today is
the seat in whick I will set upon on Our 2005 HELLBOUND STEEL custom CHOOPER
that I am getting ready to go riding upon.
Have a Great Day Guys. GRANNY

 

[Ed]

As far as the stick up my ass the only stick I am putting up my ass today is
the seat in whick I will set upon on Our 2005 HELLBOUND STEEL custom CHOOPER
that I am getting ready to go riding upon.

The first thing I purchased upon my first retirement was a Fat Boy.
Still got it and ride it mostly everyday.

Regards,
Ed, Grandfather of three

 

[kurttrail]

Ok Men, My apology to ALL who I pissed off,

I can only speak for myself, and I'm not pissed at all, and while it is
nice of you to apologize, it is unnecessary.

I Myself use Norton Internet Security with Antispyware. Have used
Norton for 5 years now, took a while to understand the whole program
to set it all right so it wasnt always popping up every time I turned
around, But I use My computer for shopping on line ALOT and such and
with it I feel safe. I am not saying it is the best out there nor the
worse, I honestly dont know. I do know that in the 5 yrs I have used
it I have had no virus or anything.I also have Adaware and Spyware
blaster and run them couple times a week. Dont know much about the
other programs but with Norton if under an attack You can go in and
view who the attacker is, it will show You on a map of the world the
country, city, and the internet provider in which the attacker is
comming from, You may then file a complaint with the attackers
internet provider for attacking Your computer. The cost was 79.00 and
I got a 30.00 rebate so that wasnt too bad.

Ok I am now open for attack Guys.
As far as the stick up my ass the only stick I am putting up my ass
today is the seat in whick I will set upon on Our 2005 HELLBOUND
STEEL custom CHOOPER that I am getting ready to go riding upon.
Have a Great Day Guys. GRANNY

Have fun on your run, and while you are relatively happy with Norton,
this group is just too filled with those with Norton/Symantec caused
problems, when it is TOTALLY off-topic to this group. Personally, I
used to use Norton NIS, but once I tried other products I notice how
much of my computer resources was sucked up by Norton, and how much
registry crap is left behind when uninstalled, and how expensive it is
to be on the Norton Upgrade Wagon. No security product is perfect, and
I've seen many machines protected by Symantec security products that
were infected when tested by other non-Symantec products. And I've seen
many unistall nightmares with Symantec products. Just too, too many
problems, so I cannot in good conscience ever recommend the crap.

You may be happy with it, but you don't know how much more you'd be with
other much cheaper products that don't suck up system resources like
they were infinite.

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[Philip K.]

Hello Granny,
That was a very nice post.
Your experience with Norton is about the same as mine. As I have said
above, I have had problems with installation and worse yet, problems with
getting rid of old versions whose remnants kept the new version from
installing. I am also well aware that it puts excess entries into the
registry but with 110 Gbytes of hard drive and a "giant" 512 MBytes of RAM -
it's so what. As to depleting the computer of resources -- I make heavy
use of a graphics program called Photoshop which uses a lot of resources on
my ancient (3 yr old) computer. I never noticed any difference in
performance with or without Norton.
I like Norton because it gives me a sense of security knowing that
major government agencies, corporations, banks, etc are using it. Until
some agency (WEB, government, whatever) starts monitoring Freeware on a
daily basis I will stay with Norton. Has the program ever stumbled
anywhere -- probably. But as I mentioned somewhere above, the installation
of Windows 98 wiped out my computer for a week until Microsoft mailed me a
new disk. Every damn disk in the store was defective. People were
screaming at the clerks for weeks.
May I help you out one last time. This help is a little on the
humorous side. Many of the people who post in this and other news groups
are ladies. You can not always tell gender from the names being used.
Addressing them as "men" or "guys" may bring a burst of machine gun fire
your way. They seem to be just as ready to engage in a shoot out as the
men.
Have fun on your motorcycle. I'll do my joy driving in a car. I had
enough thrills and danger riding in a tank. You have no idea what it feels
like when you see the flash of a direct hit on the front of the tank.

 

[Guest]

Ed- Its GREAT isnt it, Nothing like it in the world,We started to buy Big
Dog, went in to purchase the Big Dog and the Hell Bound Steel Chooper was
there and We bought it instead, Its called a Hellion, Bad Ass Chooper I'm
telling You. Thanks for the post,

Kurttrail-- Thank You Glad to know I havent made enemies here. And I do
agree with you, no security is perfect, Nothing is perfect . And I
understand everything You said in Your post about norton, I have had nothing
but it so am not as knowledged on others as You are, possibly when My norton
expires in 10 months will try another.

Philip. Hi. Thank You also. The first time I put Norton on here it was ruff
only because of figuring out how to use and all, then it expired time came to
renew, found out it was cheaper to go on ebay and buy whole newthing so went
in bid and got REALLY cheap, uninstalled the one on comnputer and installed
the new one and everything fine, since then been doing the same thing, buy
new version, uninstall, install new one and alls fine , this yr is first yr i
paid full price at local store and the newer version i installed last month
is fine, not a problem so far. and like YOU i like the secure feeling and
with it I have it. But as I stated I havent used anything elce but Norton ,
but feel as long as it hasnt let any attackers get to me yet to this day
hopefully I am safe. My computer is probably 6 yrs or older bought used from
neighbor, AMD ATHLON TM PROCESSOR 904 MHZ 96.0 MB OF RAM, with Norton
installed by Me and it hasent slowed it down or anything that I can tell. I
use Arc soft photo shop lots because of the pix I take of Grandbaby and all.

Yea Your right as far as cant tell gender from names, Thats why I use Mazzys
Granny then all know I am Female,

Or am I just using that name to fool You?????????????

But anyway I am out of here and have had fun with all the posters, Glad to
have had the time to post to you all, Everyone of You take care of
Yourselves, be good and stay safe on the computer and in life as a whole As
I am posting here for the last time or this could go on and on, Thak You to
You All and God Bless and have a safe and happy Holiday comming up .

I have this big stick I have to dig out My ass before I go to bed.
HAHAHAHAHHA just kidding loosen up, I can joke too when I want.

TAKE CARE. GRANNY

 

[J. Michael Morse]

Thanks for all the information. Yes, I have had my problems with
the registry being "crapped" up by Norton so that I could not even load
their own new version. On the other hand, the US government, major
banks, and corporations use it so it must be doing the job of blocking
viruses better than any other "crap-ware". If no one is monitoring
Freeware on a daily basis, am I not taking a big chance with it.
Just as an aside -- doesn't this news group have a moderator. A few
angry lunatics are allowed to jump in wherever they want to. On all the
other news groups that I have visited they are quickly blocked by a
moderator.

Your best moderator would be the "KILL FILE" or whatever your
particular email/newsreader program calls it. The posters
who are obnoxious are usually consistent so they are easy
to spot.

Years of experience has taught me to never respond to
'trolls', people who post for the sole purpose of creating
negativity. One response leads to another, etc. etc.

Again, the KILL FILE is your friend!

Hope this two cents helps . . .

Michael