Networking

[Metspitzer]

I have a Linksys WRT 54GS. It has been stored for a year, but it was
working when I stopped using it.

I just switched to Cable. When I plug the computer into the modem
(Surfboard SB6121) the link light comes on right away.

If I plug in the router, the Internet light on the router comes on,
but the link light on the modem doesn't.

Back when I was using the router it seemed like there was a 30 sec or
longer wait time before it started working. I tried waiting a few
min and the link light does not come on.

Is there a wait time? Is there something else I can try?

 

[Metspitzer]

I have a Linksys WRT 54GS. It has been stored for a year, but it was
working when I stopped using it.

I just switched to Cable. When I plug the computer into the modem
(Surfboard SB6121) the link light comes on right away.

If I plug in the router, the Internet light on the router comes on,
but the link light on the modem doesn't.

Back when I was using the router it seemed like there was a 30 sec or
longer wait time before it started working. I tried waiting a few
min and the link light does not come on.

Is there a wait time? Is there something else I can try?

BTW I reset the router with a paperclip before I did anything.

 

[Flasherly]

I have a Linksys WRT 54GS. It has been stored for a year, but it was
working when I stopped using it.

I just switched to Cable. When I plug the computer into the modem
(Surfboard SB6121) the link light comes on right away.

If I plug in the router, the Internet light on the router comes on,
but the link light on the modem doesn't.

Back when I was using the router it seemed like there was a 30 sec or
longer wait time before it started working. I tried waiting a few
min and the link light does not come on.

Is there a wait time? Is there something else I can try?

So your Motorola automatically establishes a connection. You've an
open mic into the internet & it's showtime. Chained with the Linsys
for wireless receptivity to several computers, it doesn't. It's a
router issue, although I've never owned or setup one.

If broadcasting speeds for internet distributed television channels
drop to my subscription bandwidth rates, that could suddenly change.
First time I'll looked at television offerings in over a decade
without disgust, for a wider, possibly international broadcasting
selection, absent domestic cable provider price gouging;- the LCD of
programming, being trash, if in course for selectivity to denote
favorably within potential on-line subscriptions, as a welcome
employment of computers and software for culling out content from the
usual canopy of cable shit.

-
Every crowd has it's silver lining. -Barnum & Bailey

 

[SC Tom]

I have a Linksys WRT 54GS. It has been stored for a year, but it was
working when I stopped using it.

I just switched to Cable. When I plug the computer into the modem
(Surfboard SB6121) the link light comes on right away.

If I plug in the router, the Internet light on the router comes on,
but the link light on the modem doesn't.

Back when I was using the router it seemed like there was a 30 sec or
longer wait time before it started working. I tried waiting a few
min and the link light does not come on.

Is there a wait time? Is there something else I can try?

Are you using a crossover cable to connect (assuming your connection is UTP, and not USB)? That would connect from the
modem to the single port by itself. If you don't have a crossover (usually red or yellow in color), then you can try a
regular cable from the modem to one of the other ports.

 

[Metspitzer]

Are you using a crossover cable to connect (assuming your connection is UTP, and not USB)? That would connect from the
modem to the single port by itself. If you don't have a crossover (usually red or yellow in color), then you can try a
regular cable from the modem to one of the other ports.

None of the cables I have are crossover. I shouldn't need any if I
connect the modem to the router by plugging it into the Internet port.
Right?

If I understand you, if I had a crossover cable it would work by
plugging it into port 1-4.

I don't remember ever having to use a crossover.

I did try connecting the modem to a port, but the link light on the
modem doesn't light.

 

[anotherpaul]

I have a Linksys WRT 54GS. It has been stored for a year, but it was
working when I stopped using it.

I just switched to Cable. When I plug the computer into the modem
(Surfboard SB6121) the link light comes on right away.

If I plug in the router, the Internet light on the router comes on,
but the link light on the modem doesn't.

Back when I was using the router it seemed like there was a 30 sec or
longer wait time before it started working. I tried waiting a few
min and the link light does not come on.

Is there a wait time? Is there something else I can try?

When you plugged in the computer, the computer's nic MAC was
set as the MAC for use by the cable-modem to connect as valid; after
swapping the router for the computer, the cable-modem still see
the computer nic MAC as the valid connection.

You can do 2 things: 1) power off the modem & router for about 10 secs;
then turn on the modem FIRST, then the router so that the modem
see the router's MAC as the valid device.
2) if the router allows it, logon to the router & change the MAC
to send to the modem as that of the computer (some people like this
method because they can swap the router & computer at will).

Powering off the modem resets the cable-modem except in cases of
the type of modems that also have telephone connections in which
case, the sure method is also to disconnect the modem's backup
battery also.

 

[Metspitzer]

I have a Linksys WRT 54GS. It has been stored for a year, but it was
working when I stopped using it.

I just switched to Cable. When I plug the computer into the modem
(Surfboard SB6121) the link light comes on right away.

If I plug in the router, the Internet light on the router comes on,
but the link light on the modem doesn't.

Back when I was using the router it seemed like there was a 30 sec or
longer wait time before it started working. I tried waiting a few
min and the link light does not come on.

Is there a wait time? Is there something else I can try?

The problem was that all the hardware I was using needed to be reset.
I had a switch in the basement that would not work when switching from
one modem to the other. Unplugging it and plugging it back in caused
it to work.

 

[GlowingBlueMist]

The problem was that all the hardware I was using needed to be reset.
I had a switch in the basement that would not work when switching from
one modem to the other. Unplugging it and plugging it back in caused
it to work.

Glad you were able to get things working properly.

Yes, many cable companies set up their network so that the cable modem
only registers the first MAC address it sees after the cable modem is
power reset. Plug in your PC directly to the cable modem and power
cycle the cable modem and things work, later swap out to a different PC
or plug in a router and the cable modem will ignore it.

Power cycle the cable modem with either a different PC or the router
plugged into it and the cable modem then registers that device and
ignores all other attempts at changing devices.

This is why we usually tell people to power off everything, power on the
cable modem and wait for it to stabilize, then power on what ever you
have plugged into it, be it a router or PC, and then go on from there
and everything should work together on the internet.

That is one reason router software started the MAC address cloning
ability. One can program the router with your main or test PC's MAC
address in it on the WAN port and you can then swap the router or device
with the same MAC address with the router being none the wiser.

 

[SC Tom]

None of the cables I have are crossover. I shouldn't need any if I
connect the modem to the router by plugging it into the Internet port.
Right?

If I understand you, if I had a crossover cable it would work by
plugging it into port 1-4.

I don't remember ever having to use a crossover.

I did try connecting the modem to a port, but the link light on the
modem doesn't light.

Well, after looking at mine, I see that it isn't a crossover. I kind of
assumed (yeah, I know what that means) it was since the instructions said to
use it for the modem port, and all the Netgear routers I've owned came with
one. You are correct; the modem has to be connected to the router using a
regular cable to the internet port.

I always had both my modem and my router turned off when I hooked them up to
each other, then turned the modem on first and waited until all the lights
were normal before turning on the router. Once it had booted, it would show
as connected. If yours doesn't even after that, maybe the router is bad. Are
you able to access it through IE if it's connected to your PC? If it's reset
to factory settings, it should reachable at http://192.168.1.1 .

 

[Mike Easter]

I always had both my modem and my router turned off when I hooked them
up to each other, then turned the modem on first and waited until all
the lights were normal before turning on the router.

That is the best way to 'build' the network, powerup modem to the
lights, then powerup router to the lights, then powerup a computer on
the router. which includes watching/noting the information from the
lights at each stage.

It is/was not necessary to reset the router to the factory defaults by
using the paperclip in the reset hole unless you have forgotten what the
admin password and/or the wifi key is. After the factory reset, the
default admin login should be secured as well as the rest of the modem's
initial setup.

Once it had booted, it would show as connected. If yours doesn't even
after that, maybe the router is bad. Are you able to access it
through IE if it's connected to your PC? If it's reset to factory
settings, it should reachable at http://192.168.1.1 .

And since it has been reset, it should be accessed at that IP so that
the router can be secured with a new pass. The default pass is admin.

 

[Metspitzer]

Well, after looking at mine, I see that it isn't a crossover. I kind of
assumed (yeah, I know what that means) it was since the instructions said to
use it for the modem port, and all the Netgear routers I've owned came with
one. You are correct; the modem has to be connected to the router using a
regular cable to the internet port.

I always had both my modem and my router turned off when I hooked them up to
each other, then turned the modem on first and waited until all the lights
were normal before turning on the router. Once it had booted, it would show
as connected. If yours doesn't even after that, maybe the router is bad. Are
you able to access it through IE if it's connected to your PC? If it's reset
to factory settings, it should reachable at http://192.168.1.1 .

Yeah. Powering everything down and then back up in the correct order
is best. I found out you have to reset everything.

Thanks

 

[Metspitzer]

Glad you were able to get things working properly.

Yes, many cable companies set up their network so that the cable modem
only registers the first MAC address it sees after the cable modem is
power reset. Plug in your PC directly to the cable modem and power
cycle the cable modem and things work, later swap out to a different PC
or plug in a router and the cable modem will ignore it.

Power cycle the cable modem with either a different PC or the router
plugged into it and the cable modem then registers that device and
ignores all other attempts at changing devices.

This is why we usually tell people to power off everything, power on the
cable modem and wait for it to stabilize, then power on what ever you
have plugged into it, be it a router or PC, and then go on from there
and everything should work together on the internet.

That is one reason router software started the MAC address cloning
ability. One can program the router with your main or test PC's MAC
address in it on the WAN port and you can then swap the router or device
with the same MAC address with the router being none the wiser.

Yep. I wouldn't call it the best way. I would call it the only way.

Thanks

 

[GMAN]

Are you using a crossover cable to connect (assuming your connection is UTP,
and not USB)? That would connect from the
modem to the single port by itself. If you don't have a crossover (usually red
or yellow in color), then you can try a
regular cable from the modem to one of the other ports.

You dont use crossover cables with tha router

 

[Metspitzer]

You dont use crossover cables with tha router

Until this message, I never thought about it before, but a crossover
cable plugged into one of the ports would have been useful to me in
the past.

Lightning came in on my Linksys router. It killed the Internet
connection. My computers could still talk to each other, but could
not access the Internet.

For that one situation, a crossover cable could have been useful.

I gave that router to a neighbor. He is using it for a switch and his
wife and kid are using the wireless part for a game console and a
laptop.

 

[Metspitzer]

Until this message, I never thought about it before, but a crossover
cable plugged into one of the ports would have been useful to me in
the past.

Lightning came in on my Linksys router. It killed the Internet
connection. My computers could still talk to each other, but could
not access the Internet.

For that one situation, a crossover cable could have been useful.

I gave that router to a neighbor. He is using it for a switch and his
wife and kid are using the wireless part for a game console and a
laptop.

Which, after leaving this message, occurred to me that my neighbor is
most likely having to use a crossover cable to be able to use it with
a dead "Internet" port. He is very good with networking. I never
bothered to ask him "how" he got it working, only "if" he got it
working.

He used to be my "go to guy" for network questions, but since I suck
so badly at it, my tech support warranty ran out years ago.

 

[SC Tom]

You dont use crossover cables with tha router

Yeah, I already corrected myself before your post. But thanks for
reiterating what I discovered.

 

[GMAN]

Which, after leaving this message, occurred to me that my neighbor is
most likely having to use a crossover cable to be able to use it with
a dead "Internet" port. He is very good with networking. I never
bothered to ask him "how" he got it working, only "if" he got it
working.

He used to be my "go to guy" for network questions, but since I suck
so badly at it, my tech support warranty ran out years ago.

NO, Corssover cables are not used with Gateway/Routers period.

 

[SC Tom]

NO, Corssover cables are not used with Gateway/Routers period.

Unless the routers have Auto-MDIX, you would need a crossover cable to
connect two routers together.