Networking Windows XP and Vista

G

Guest

Hi, I have 2 computers connected by Ethernet cables to a router that in turns
connects to a ROADRUNNER cable for Internet access.
I have downloaded and installed the LLTD in the XP computer. Internet access
works fine on both computers but they cannot see each other. When I do a full
map view in the Vista machine I do see the second computer icon but I cannot
access it, nor the printer connected to it.
I set up my Vista network to 'Private' and turn on file sharing. I'm using
the same name for the network (WORKGROUP) on both computers. I'm using a 3
year old Cisco router (wired of course) but even though it is not ViiV
technology ready it must be good since both computers can access the Internet.

Please help!
 
C

Chuck

Hi, I have 2 computers connected by Ethernet cables to a router that in turns
connects to a ROADRUNNER cable for Internet access.
I have downloaded and installed the LLTD in the XP computer. Internet access
works fine on both computers but they cannot see each other. When I do a full
map view in the Vista machine I do see the second computer icon but I cannot
access it, nor the printer connected to it.
I set up my Vista network to 'Private' and turn on file sharing. I'm using
the same name for the network (WORKGROUP) on both computers. I'm using a 3
year old Cisco router (wired of course) but even though it is not ViiV
technology ready it must be good since both computers can access the Internet.

Please help!
Click to expand...

Visibility problems are frequently a joint symptom of the NetBT settings, and a
personal firewall.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html

And check the router for an "Isolation Mode" setting.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html

Then look at "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each computer, and
diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow
instructions precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
 
G

Guest

Chuck, I set up the Registry as you indicate in your article with the
DCHpBroadcast flag set to 0 in the Vista computer (since the XP does not have
it). I check all my settings in both computers and they look fine. However,
something is still not working. Running 'ipconfig /all' told me I have a
'Hybrid' node type. Could that be the problem? How do I change it to
'Broadcast'?
Also, in the XP computer I changed the workgroup to 'WORKGROUP' to match the
Vista computer but I noticed somehow it reverses to 'MSHOME' afterwards.
Could that be the reason.
Your help is greatly appreciated!
 
C

Chuck

Chuck, I set up the Registry as you indicate in your article with the
DCHpBroadcast flag set to 0 in the Vista computer (since the XP does not have
it). I check all my settings in both computers and they look fine. However,
something is still not working. Running 'ipconfig /all' told me I have a
'Hybrid' node type. Could that be the problem? How do I change it to
'Broadcast'?
Also, in the XP computer I changed the workgroup to 'WORKGROUP' to match the
Vista computer but I noticed somehow it reverses to 'MSHOME' afterwards.
Could that be the reason.
Your help is greatly appreciated!
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Hi Cerdito,

Node types Broadcast and Hybrid are compatible, so don't worry there.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html

I'm not sure about the workgroup name changing. If everything is working,
though, and you have 2 separate workgroups, you should be able to see the other
workgroup under Entire Network - Microsoft Windows Network.

If both computers can access the Internet, don't worry about the DHCP broadcast
issue, apparently that's not a problem with your router.

Did you check the NetBT setting, and the personal firewalls? If so, post the
browstat and ipconfig logs here, and we'll look for clues.
 
G

Guest

Chuck, my XP computer is called GIRLS. Here is the results of browstat status:
Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
Browsing is active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Using \\GIRLS
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master GIRLS
\\GIRLS
There are 1 servers in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkNb


Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{5D7BCE0D-695E-4C8E-A54F-098203B057E8}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: GIRLS
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master GIRLS
\\GIRLS
There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{5D7BCE0D-695E-4C8E-A54F-098203B057E8}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{5D7BCE0D-695E-4C8E-A54F-098203B057E8}


Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx
Browsing is active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Using \\GIRLS
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master GIRLS
\\GIRLS
There are 1 servers in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx

here is the result of ipconfig /all:

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Girls
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : socal.rr.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : socal.rr.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-19-71-A4
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.75.164.90
66.75.164.89
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, May 27, 2007 2:04:53 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, May 28, 2007 2:04:53 PM

For the second computer, \\JOSELUIS, which is the Vista Home Premium edition
computer, here are the results:

Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E5139195-F699-4BDC-9987-58A6DB6E92EA}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: GIRLS
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\GIRLS . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master GIRLS
\\GIRLS
There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E5139195-F699-4BDC-9987-58A6DB6E92EA}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E5139195-F699-4BDC-9987-58A6DB6E92EA}

and ipconfgi /all:
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : JoseLuis
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : socal.rr.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : socal.rr.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-D1-3C-FD-6A
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::8ae:2bad:48e9:5a15%8(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.102(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, May 27, 2007 2:05:04 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, May 28, 2007 2:05:04 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 201333201
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.75.164.90
66.75.164.89
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
2001:0:4136:e390:20c1:1634:3f57:fe99(Preferred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::20c1:1634:3f57:fe99%9(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : socal.rr.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.socal.rr.com
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.102%10(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.75.164.90
66.75.164.89
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled


Thank you very much for your help.

Jose Luis
 
C

Chuck

Chuck, my XP computer is called GIRLS. Here is the results of browstat status:
Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
Browsing is active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Using \\GIRLS
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master GIRLS
\\GIRLS
There are 1 servers in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkNb


Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{5D7BCE0D-695E-4C8E-A54F-098203B057E8}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: GIRLS
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master GIRLS
\\GIRLS
There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{5D7BCE0D-695E-4C8E-A54F-098203B057E8}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{5D7BCE0D-695E-4C8E-A54F-098203B057E8}


Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx
Browsing is active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Using \\GIRLS
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master GIRLS
\\GIRLS
There are 1 servers in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx

here is the result of ipconfig /all:

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Girls
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : socal.rr.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : socal.rr.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-19-71-A4
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.75.164.90
66.75.164.89
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, May 27, 2007 2:04:53 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, May 28, 2007 2:04:53 PM

For the second computer, \\JOSELUIS, which is the Vista Home Premium edition
computer, here are the results:

Status for domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E5139195-F699-4BDC-9987-58A6DB6E92EA}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: GIRLS
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\GIRLS . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master GIRLS
\\GIRLS
There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E5139195-F699-4BDC-9987-58A6DB6E92EA}
There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E5139195-F699-4BDC-9987-58A6DB6E92EA}

and ipconfgi /all:
Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : JoseLuis
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : socal.rr.com

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : socal.rr.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-D1-3C-FD-6A
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::8ae:2bad:48e9:5a15%8(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.102(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, May 27, 2007 2:05:04 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, May 28, 2007 2:05:04 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 201333201
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.75.164.90
66.75.164.89
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
2001:0:4136:e390:20c1:1634:3f57:fe99(Preferred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::20c1:1634:3f57:fe99%9(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : socal.rr.com
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.socal.rr.com
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.102%10(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.75.164.90
66.75.164.89
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled


Thank you very much for your help.

Jose Luis
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Jose,

OK, you have 2 challenges there. As I write about so much, Windows Networking
can be so simple generally, but so complex occasionally. One of the times when
it's complex is when you have a different protocol stack on various computers.
That's like being in a party where everybody there speaks a different language,
yet some people can listen in multiple languages, and translate internally.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/10/network-language-that-your-computer.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/10/network-language-that-your-computer.html

I'd start by removing IPX/SPX from Girls, and restarting both computers. If
that doesn't help, leave IPX/SPX out still, disable IPV6 on JoseLuis, and
restart both computers.

If that doesn't help, rerun both diagnostics, and post updated logs (all 4
please), and we'll do more diagnostics.
 
G

Guest

Finally! I've got it.
I followed your suggestions and removed IPX/SPX from the XP computer plus
disable IPV6 on the Vista computer. After restarting both computers the
problem persisted.
Then I came across your article regarding the IRPStackSize on your website.
I increased it to 20 and voila, the network is now working. I can see both
computers and access the shared printer.
Thank you very much, Chuck. I could have not done it without your help.

Jose

I'd start by removing IPX/SPX from Girls, and restarting both computers. If
that doesn't help, leave IPX/SPX out still, disable IPV6 on JoseLuis, and
restart both computers.

If that doesn't help, rerun both diagnostics, and post updated logs (all 4
please), and we'll do more diagnostics.
Click to expand...
 
C

Chuck

I'd start by removing IPX/SPX from Girls, and restarting both computers. If
Click to expand...
Finally! I've got it.
I followed your suggestions and removed IPX/SPX from the XP computer plus
disable IPV6 on the Vista computer. After restarting both computers the
problem persisted.
Then I came across your article regarding the IRPStackSize on your website.
I increased it to 20 and voila, the network is now working. I can see both
computers and access the shared printer.
Thank you very much, Chuck. I could have not done it without your help.

Jose
Click to expand...

You're quite welcome, Jose. Congrats on your persistence, and thanks for the
feedback.
 

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