Cannot network Vista HP and XP Pro

[CJ]

I had no trouble connecting my laptop to my wireless router for internet
access, but I cannot connect to my home network properly. I installed the
LLTD Responder on the XP machines, and I can see them on the network map, but
I cannot access their shared files, nor can I see them when I view the actual
network. The Vista machines workgroup has the same name as the XP ones. BTW
the XP machines can't seem to find the laptop either.

 

[Mick Murphy]

Have a read of info below, especially XP's file sharing Network wizard.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall (or LAN allowed, depending on how their
Exceptions are worded in their Firewall)

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords (passwords can be different) on ALL computers in your Network) If
you have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to
access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing
Wizard to include Vista in your “New†Network, even if you had an XP Network
set up prior to adding a Vista computer to it(redoing the Wizard seems to
work for XP machines!).

In “My Network Placesâ€: “Set up a Home or Small Office Networkâ€
OR under Accessories > Communications > Network Setup Wizard > Allow File
and Printer Sharing.

 

[CJ]

I first messed with the Norton Firewall settings (which were really weird,
because they had a "block windows file sharing" and an "allow windows file
sharing" checkboxes and both were selected. :S)

Then I tried to turn off password protection on the vista machine, but it
kept on alerting me with "the parameter is incorrect."

I ran the network setup wizard on one of the machines, but it didn't change
anything.

I tried plugging into the router because the vista laptop was connecting
wirelessly and the XP desktops were wired. I ran the windows XP Network setup
on the XP machines, but they still didn't detect the laptop even after I
tried running the network setup disk on the laptop.

This is driving me nuts! I can't figure out what's wrong here.

 

[Mick Murphy]

Nowhere have I said to run the XP setup wizard on the Vista Laptop!
Why would you!

 

[CJ]

Good question. It's never worked; I just ran it because nothing else was
working. BTW the "parameter is incorrect" message stopped coming up after I
restarted my computer. So all the settings on the vista laptop are correct
now. The network still isn't working.

Is it an issue if the network map shows the laptop connected to the router
and the desktops to a "switch" that is connected to the router?

 

[CJ]

OK, so I have no idea how this happened, but now my computer's connected to
the network! Thanks for all your help!

 

[Mick Murphy]

This one will remain one of life's littler mysteries!
In networking, when you set it up, you have to reboot for the settings to
"be set in concrete".
However you got there, I'm glad you did!

 

[CJ]

OK, I'm connecting to a linksys Wireless-G router wirelessly on the vista
laptop and directly through the XP desktops. Here are all the text files
Steve requested.

Vista Laptop:

ipconfig /all


Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Vista_Laptop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : bc.hsia.telus.net

Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection 2:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area
Network) #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1F-E1-FE-72-D9
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : bc.hsia.telus.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1F-3B-AA-F2-B7
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::49d1:7be0:ca8d:cd95%13(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.105(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : August-21-08 9:21:16 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : August-22-08 9:21:16 AM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 75.154.133.68
75.154.133.100
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : bc.hsia.telus.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8101E Family PCI-E Fast
Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-21-CC-01-17-E1
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
2001:0:4137:9e50:301b:2a5c:3027:f068(Preferred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::301b:2a5c:3027:f068%16(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 12:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{6CD74E7F-D1DD-4DF8-97C1-B4D2BE2C96B6}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 14:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : bc.hsia.telus.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.bc.hsia.telus.net
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
__________________________________________________________

route -4 print

===========================================================================
Interface List
15 ...00 1f e1 fe 72 d9 ...... Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network) #2
13 ...00 1f 3b aa f2 b7 ...... Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
10 ...00 21 cc 01 17 e1 ...... Realtek RTL8101E Family PCI-E Fast Ethernet
NIC (NDIS 6.0)
1 ........................... Software Loopback Interface 1
16 ...02 00 54 55 4e 01 ...... Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
18 ...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 isatap.{6CD74E7F-D1DD-4DF8-97C1-B4D2BE2C96B6}
17 ...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 isatap.bc.hsia.telus.net
===========================================================================

IPv4 Route Table
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.105 25
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 306
127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306
127.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306
192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 On-link 192.168.1.105 281
192.168.1.105 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.1.105 281
192.168.1.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.1.105 281
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 306
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 192.168.1.105 281
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.1.105 281
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None
__________________________________________________________

XP Desktop (I only did this on one of them; if you want me to do it on the
other one I can)

ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : PLAYROOM

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : bc.hsia.telus.net



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : bc.hsia.telus.net

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Desktop
Connection

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-55-FF-0E-40

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.106

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 75.154.133.68

75.154.133.100

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, August 21, 2008
9:21:31 AM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, August 22, 2008 9:21:31 AM
__________________________________________________________

route print

===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 02 55 ff 0e 40 ...... Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Desktop Connection -
Packet Scheduler Miniport
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.106 20
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.106 192.168.1.106 20
192.168.1.106 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 20
192.168.1.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.106 192.168.1.106 20
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.1.106 192.168.1.106 20
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.106 192.168.1.106 1
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None
__________________________________________________________

Hope that makes more sense to you than it does me!

 

[Steve Winograd]

OK, I'm connecting to a linksys Wireless-G router wirelessly on the vista
laptop and directly through the XP desktops. Here are all the text files
Steve requested.

Vista Laptop:

ipconfig /all


Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Vista_Laptop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : bc.hsia.telus.net

Ethernet adapter Bluetooth Network Connection 2:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Bluetooth Device (Personal Area
Network) #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1F-E1-FE-72-D9
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : bc.hsia.telus.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1F-3B-AA-F2-B7
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::49d1:7be0:ca8d:cd95%13(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.105(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : August-21-08 9:21:16 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : August-22-08 9:21:16 AM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 75.154.133.68
75.154.133.100
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : bc.hsia.telus.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8101E Family PCI-E Fast
Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-21-CC-01-17-E1
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
2001:0:4137:9e50:301b:2a5c:3027:f068(Preferred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::301b:2a5c:3027:f068%16(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 12:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . :
isatap.{6CD74E7F-D1DD-4DF8-97C1-B4D2BE2C96B6}
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 14:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : bc.hsia.telus.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.bc.hsia.telus.net
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
__________________________________________________________

route -4 print

===========================================================================
Interface List
15 ...00 1f e1 fe 72 d9 ...... Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network) #2
13 ...00 1f 3b aa f2 b7 ...... Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
10 ...00 21 cc 01 17 e1 ...... Realtek RTL8101E Family PCI-E Fast Ethernet
NIC (NDIS 6.0)
1 ........................... Software Loopback Interface 1
16 ...02 00 54 55 4e 01 ...... Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
18 ...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 isatap.{6CD74E7F-D1DD-4DF8-97C1-B4D2BE2C96B6}
17 ...00 00 00 00 00 00 00 e0 isatap.bc.hsia.telus.net
===========================================================================

IPv4 Route Table
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.105 25
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 306
127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306
127.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306
192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 On-link 192.168.1.105 281
192.168.1.105 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.1.105 281
192.168.1.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.1.105 281
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 127.0.0.1 306
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 On-link 192.168.1.105 281
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 127.0.0.1 306
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 On-link 192.168.1.105 281
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None
__________________________________________________________

XP Desktop (I only did this on one of them; if you want me to do it on the
other one I can)

ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : PLAYROOM

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : bc.hsia.telus.net



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : bc.hsia.telus.net

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Desktop
Connection

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-55-FF-0E-40

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.106

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 75.154.133.68

75.154.133.100

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, August 21, 2008
9:21:31 AM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, August 22, 2008 9:21:31 AM
__________________________________________________________

route print

===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 02 55 ff 0e 40 ...... Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Desktop Connection -
Packet Scheduler Miniport
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.106 20
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.106 192.168.1.106 20
192.168.1.106 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 20
192.168.1.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.106 192.168.1.106 20
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.1.106 192.168.1.106 20
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.1.106 192.168.1.106 1
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None
__________________________________________________________

Hope that makes more sense to you than it does me!

Thanks for posting the ipconfig and route information. Everything
looks normal on those two computers, which receive private IP
addresses from your router.

The Vista laptop (Vista_Laptop) is 192.168.1.105, the XP desktop
(PLAYROOM) is 192.168.1.106, and the router is 192.168.1.1.

Unfortunately, this gives no clue to the problem. Based on what
appears here, the computers should be able to ping each other
successfully. What are the results of running each of these commands
on each computer?

ping 192.168.1.105
ping 192.168.1.106
ping vista_laptop
ping playroom
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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[CJ]

The laptop pinged everything successfully, but the XP machine(playroom)
couldn't ping the laptop either by name or IP. The requests would time out
when I tried the IP, and it could not find the host name for the laptop. I
was wondering why I didn't get the error message from the other IP (the 153
one) like I did last time I pinged.

 

[Steve Winograd]

The laptop pinged everything successfully, but the XP machine(playroom)
couldn't ping the laptop either by name or IP. The requests would time out
when I tried the IP, and it could not find the host name for the laptop. I
was wondering why I didn't get the error message from the other IP (the 153
one) like I did last time I pinged.

I can't explain why the 153 address showed up in your earlier ping
result. Given the ipconfig and route information you posted, that
address makes no sense.

It's possible that the laptop has a firewall program (Norton, McAfee,
ZoneAlarm, PC-cillin, etc) or Vista's built-in Windows Firewall that's
blocking access. Make sure that any firewall is configured to allow
access by other computers on the LAN. Note that some antivirus
programs have firewall components that have to be configured. An
example is Norton Antivirus' "Internet Worm Protection".

Start both computers in "Safe mode with networking" and try the pings.
If they work in that mode, a firewall is almost certainly causing the
problem in normal mode.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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[CJ]

Thanks, Steve! Norton was the problem (what a surprise). I disabled Norton's
Firewall entirely since I have Vista's on anyway, and now the network works
perfectly! Thanks so much for your help.

 

[Steve Winograd]

Thanks, Steve! Norton was the problem (what a surprise). I disabled Norton's
Firewall entirely since I have Vista's on anyway, and now the network works
perfectly! Thanks so much for your help.

You're welcome, CJ. I'm glad that my suggestion helped you solve the
problem. Running more than one firewall is very likely to cause
networking problems, and Vista's firewall is all you need.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
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