Network card delays too much to respond at boot up

[Jaime Stuardo]

Hi all...

I have just re-installed Windows XP.. all went fine except that network card
delays too much to activate, causing all PC to freeze for a while.

Some time ago I read that the solution to this is to configure the network
card to IP 192.168.1.1.. but I don't remember exactly the procedure. I have
2 network cards, one for internet and the other for my LAN, so I have 3
network connections: Internet, LAN 1 and LAN 2.

Can you tell me exactly the procedure to follow?
Thanks a lot in advance

Jaime

 

[CheshireCat]

Hi all...

I have just re-installed Windows XP.. all went fine except that network card
delays too much to activate, causing all PC to freeze for a while.

Some time ago I read that the solution to this is to configure the network
card to IP 192.168.1.1.. but I don't remember exactly the procedure. I have
2 network cards, one for internet and the other for my LAN, so I have 3
network connections: Internet, LAN 1 and LAN 2.

Can you tell me exactly the procedure to follow?
Thanks a lot in advance

Jaime

I think the "solution" you refer to is an attempt to give your PC a static
IP address rather than allowing it to get one automatically through DHCP
(which can take time).
I'm assuming that your PC is running as the Internet Connection Sharing
server machine. If so, then it already has a static IP address of
192.168.0.1 and you shouldn't play with this or your other pcs will lose the
internet. The network card attached to the internet may be static - if your
ISP told you it was, or more likely dynamic - it gets an IP address from the
ISP DHCP server when it connects to the internet.
What do you mean when you say you have 3 network connections? With 2 cards
you'll have an Internet and LAN1 connection.

 

[Jaime Stuardo]

When I finished installing Windows XP, I found 2 network connections, each
for both network cards. When I created Internet connection, a third
connection was created placed in "BroadBand" sector. The other 2 connections
were placed in "LAN or High-Speed Internet" sector.

One card is connected to broadband modem, and the other is connected to a
hub where I connect other PC. When I issue IPCONFIG command I see 2
automatically assigned IP addresses, and the third is assigned the dynamic
IP. If DHCP is causing the PC to delay too much in activating the card at
boot time, I'll try to modify the addresses, but I think I can assign
192.168.0.1 to the card that is used for internet and 192.168.1.1 to the
card connected to my local network to avoid conflict.

At the moment I don't run ICS but I will do so to try to use this in order
to allow the other PC to connect to internet.

Thanks
Jaime

 

[feardotcom]

When I finished installing Windows XP, I found 2 network connections, each
for both network cards. When I created Internet connection, a third
connection was created placed in "BroadBand" sector. The other 2 connections
were placed in "LAN or High-Speed Internet" sector.

One card is connected to broadband modem, and the other is connected to a
hub where I connect other PC. When I issue IPCONFIG command I see 2
automatically assigned IP addresses, and the third is assigned the dynamic
IP. If DHCP is causing the PC to delay too much in activating the card at
boot time, I'll try to modify the addresses, but I think I can assign
192.168.0.1 to the card that is used for internet and 192.168.1.1 to the
card connected to my local network to avoid conflict.

At the moment I don't run ICS but I will do so to try to use this in order
to allow the other PC to connect to internet.

Thanks
Jaime

Right Click on your LAN Connection in LAN or High-Speed Internet and choose
properties. Click on the TCP/IP Component, and choose properties. Choose the
other radio button (not the assign ip automatically) and change it to
192.168.0.2 (do not use 192.168.1.1) it just complicates things.

You only have 1 network card, the other "network card" is your broadband
modem, you are not suppose to change any IP configuration for it, set that
back to assign automatically.

 

[Jaime Stuardo]

Hi...

I tried it but that way I couldn't connect other PC to internet through this
XP computer ICS. The only way I could do it was by running the network
wizard on this XP pc and on the other Win Me PC. The wizard has configured
all connections to obtain IP automatically.

Any other suggestion?
Thanks

Jaime

 

[CheshireCat]

When I finished installing Windows XP, I found 2 network connections, each
for both network cards. When I created Internet connection, a third
connection was created placed in "BroadBand" sector. The other 2 connections
were placed in "LAN or High-Speed Internet" sector.

One card is connected to broadband modem, and the other is connected to a
hub where I connect other PC. When I issue IPCONFIG command I see 2
automatically assigned IP addresses, and the third is assigned the dynamic
IP. If DHCP is causing the PC to delay too much in activating the card at
boot time, I'll try to modify the addresses, but I think I can assign
192.168.0.1 to the card that is used for internet and 192.168.1.1 to the
card connected to my local network to avoid conflict.

At the moment I don't run ICS but I will do so to try to use this in order
to allow the other PC to connect to internet.

Thanks
Jaime

In addition to the network cards (local area connection card, internet
connection sharing card), do you also have a firewire connection "1394
Connection" or anything else similar in your Network Connections dialog box?
If so there's probably also one or more network bridges linking between
these and your NICs. Microsoft install these by default and they allow your
machine to act a bit like a hub for connecting other PCs to your network
using firewire cables.
If you do an ipconfig /all from a command prompt, you'll see the info
concerning these in there too, described as MAC bridge miniports.
They're not essential, you can break the network bridges connections and
delete the bridges if you don't need them.

Don't play with the IP addresses believe me! The 192.168.0.1 internal
network IP address is static (ie never changes) and is assigned
automatically to the gateway/your PC when ICS is set up using the wizard.
Although it won't badly affect YOUR pcs connection, the rest of the network
won't be able to find the internet.
You'll also have an IP address for the Internet connection NIC that looks
nothing like "192.168.0.x", eg on mine it's 213.106.x.x (swap x for any
number between 0 and 255). Don't set this one yourself unless your ISP tells
you the appropriate settings, if you do then you'll all lose internet
entirely.
Im interested in this 3rd IP address.

Open the command prompt, type in the following (ignoring the quotes)
"ipconfig /all > c:\query.txt"
This should create a text file on the root of your c drive called query.txt.
Copy the file contents and post them in a response here

 

[Jaime Stuardo]

Hello!!

This is the complete CMD session: ("Red Interna" is the LAN card connected
to the hub, "Red Internet" is the card connected to the DSL modem, and
"Entel Internet" is the actual internet connection)

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Jaime Stuardo>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : pc
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Red Interna:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DFE-538TX 10/100 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-BA-8A-B8-FA
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter Red Internet:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900-Based PCI Fast Ethernet
Adap
ter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-6E-2F-CF-F9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.84.100
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

PPP adapter Entel Internet:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 200.72.202.143
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 200.72.202.143
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 200.72.1.5
200.72.1.11
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Documents and Settings\Jaime Stuardo>

This configuration was created by mean of the network wizard. Do you see
something strange that may be causing the delay?

Thanks
Jaime

 

[CheshireCat]

Hi again Jaime.

Your 192.168.0.1 card is exactly as expected and is correct for your LAN.
As you see, you have the extra PPP Entel connection which looks fine iP
wise. Your "Red Internet" card is showing the 169.254.84.100 IP address
which means that it looked for a DHCP server but couln't find one.
These last two worry me and I think your set up is a bit beyond my very
humble experience. I don't understand why you should have the Entel item
listed. Is this something else you've installed in network connections or is
Entel your ISP and this is here because of their installation software?

The following are the results of my own ipconfig /all on a simple ICS
network.
I've 2 network cards, the NVidia is plugged into my cable modem, the 3Com
goes to my hub. Both have valid IP addresses.

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CheshireCat
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Internet Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce MCP Networking
Control
ler
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-E0-18-E3-41-A7
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 213.106.1.241
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 213.106.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.67.70
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.168.4.100
194.168.8.100
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 09 December 2003 08:33:14
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 16 December 2003 08:33:14

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920B-EMB Integrated Fast
Ethe
rnet Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-5E-09-68-33
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

 

[Jaime Stuardo]

Hello....

I created the third connection by mean of New Connection wizard. When I just
installed Windows, I saw 2 connections, one for each card. Since I connected
one of those cards to a DSL modem, I needed to create a new connection. One
fact I didn't understand is that the new connection I created, "Entel
Internet", knows which network card to use, and I didn't specify it nowhere.

Comparing your ipconfig with mine, I realized that your "Ethernet adapter
Internet Connection" is a mixture of my "Entel Internet" and "Red Internet".
In my case, DHCP and Autoconfiguration Enabled settings are on my "Red
Internet" connection. In your case, it is at the configuration provided by
your ISP, the same as the assigned IP 213.106.1.241.

How did you installed your system? After installed Windows XP, what did you
do to configure Internet access? Can other computers connect to internet
through your connection?

Thanks
Jaime

 

[CheshireCat]

Hello....

I created the third connection by mean of New Connection wizard. When I just
installed Windows, I saw 2 connections, one for each card. Since I connected
one of those cards to a DSL modem, I needed to create a new connection. One
fact I didn't understand is that the new connection I created, "Entel
Internet", knows which network card to use, and I didn't specify it nowhere.

Comparing your ipconfig with mine, I realized that your "Ethernet adapter
Internet Connection" is a mixture of my "Entel Internet" and "Red Internet".
In my case, DHCP and Autoconfiguration Enabled settings are on my "Red
Internet" connection. In your case, it is at the configuration provided by
your ISP, the same as the assigned IP 213.106.1.241.

How did you installed your system? After installed Windows XP, what did you
do to configure Internet access? Can other computers connect to internet
through your connection?

Thanks
Jaime

Yesterday I reconfigured my network for ICS so I could extract some sample
IP information to show you. My network is attached to a hardware
firewall/hub normally, it's really so much easier/safer for internet
connection sharing and well worth the $100 it cost.

I'm 99.9% sure the solution to your problem is to dump the Entel connection.
If you're connecting your second network card to the modem then this card is
the one you should be configuring.
Make notes of the settings for the Entel connection (in case you need to
restore later) and then delete it. If you have any settings from your ISP
then configure the modem connected card connection with the values.

Here is a link to a great site that should answer your queries about setting
up ICS correctly http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/

Post back when you've had a go at redoing things so I know how you got
along.
good luck )