Need some help here...

[zach]

Ok, Im putting together this new gamming PC, just looks like i hit a
little problem... The case that I found is an Antec Solo, and i am
going to put a Fatal1ty mobo in there, only problem i can see is that
my I/O fans dont have a place to expell any flow to the back of the
case... Ill leave a few links of pictures of my mobo and case... and
my system build is this, and suggestions would be awesome!!

Processor: AMD athlon Windsor 2.6ghz 5000+ Model #AD05000CZBOX
Mobo: above
PSU: Rosewill600watt RP600V2 model #
Memory: Crucial 4gb
Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda 400gb 7200.10 7200 RPM
Case: above
Video Card: XFX 7950GT 512mb

 

[Paul]

Ok, Im putting together this new gamming PC, just looks like i hit a
little problem... The case that I found is an Antec Solo, and i am
going to put a Fatal1ty mobo in there, only problem i can see is that
my I/O fans dont have a place to expell any flow to the back of the
case... Ill leave a few links of pictures of my mobo and case... and
my system build is this, and suggestions would be awesome!!

Processor: AMD athlon Windsor 2.6ghz 5000+ Model #AD05000CZBOX
Mobo: above
PSU: Rosewill600watt RP600V2 model #
Memory: Crucial 4gb
Harddrive: Seagate Barracuda 400gb 7200.10 7200 RPM
Case: above
Video Card: XFX 7950GT 512mb

I take it you're referring to the fans on the edge of this ABIT Fatal1ty AN9 32X ?
That is the closest thing I can find that matches your description of a
Fatal1ty motherboard with fans, for AM2.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-127-237-02.jpg

On the Antec Solo, you'd remove the I/O plate shown in this picture, to
make room for the I/O plate that comes with the Abit motherboard.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/11-129-018-09.jpg

The Abit I/O plate is in the lower right of this picture. It looks
like the poor little fans have to blow through that grill area they
punched in the plate. While it would be tempting to take a nibbling
tool and remove the grill, the I/O plate will have no mechanical
strength if you do that. Since the I/O plate is a compression fit
into the computer case, it has to be strong enough to stay in place.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-127-237-06.jpg

You could avoid the Abit I/O plate entirely. That would make more
room for the fans to blow, but then you don't get good grounding
of the outside of the connector stacks, by the metal fingers on
the I/O plate. The spring contacts are supposed to help with EMI
suppression.

If you need more help, provide some links to the hardware.

Paul

 

[zach]

I take it you're referring to the fans on the edge of this ABIT Fatal1ty AN9 32X ?
That is the closest thing I can find that matches your description of a
Fatal1ty motherboard with fans, for AM2.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-127-237-02.jpg

On the Antec Solo, you'd remove the I/O plate shown in this picture, to
make room for the I/O plate that comes with the Abit motherboard.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/11-129-018-09.jpg

The Abit I/O plate is in the lower right of this picture. It looks
like the poor little fans have to blow through that grill area they
punched in the plate. While it would be tempting to take a nibbling
tool and remove the grill, the I/O plate will have no mechanical
strength if you do that. Since the I/O plate is a compression fit
into the computer case, it has to be strong enough to stay in place.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-127-237-06.jpg

You could avoid the Abit I/O plate entirely. That would make more
room for the fans to blow, but then you don't get good grounding
of the outside of the connector stacks, by the metal fingers on
the I/O plate. The spring contacts are supposed to help with EMI
suppression.

If you need more help, provide some links to the hardware.

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Ok thanks i didnt see that alright heres my build, can u tell me if
its any good?? Ive read so many reviews on all of it, and people have
said some of its pretty good, i think i found a new case though, but
its just to fancy for me, to many led's im not to much for them, just
a lot of people had suggested this case, but anyway do u think i got
atleast a nice system that will run good for a few years till more
upgrades become cheaper??
Heres the new case im looking at...http://www.newegg.com/Product/
Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144151

 

[zach]

I take it you're referring to the fans on the edge of this ABIT Fatal1ty AN9 32X ?
That is the closest thing I can find that matches your description of a
Fatal1ty motherboard with fans, for AM2.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-127-237-02.jpg

On the Antec Solo, you'd remove the I/O plate shown in this picture, to
make room for the I/O plate that comes with the Abit motherboard.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/11-129-018-09.jpg

The Abit I/O plate is in the lower right of this picture. It looks
like the poor little fans have to blow through that grill area they
punched in the plate. While it would be tempting to take a nibbling
tool and remove the grill, the I/O plate will have no mechanical
strength if you do that. Since the I/O plate is a compression fit
into the computer case, it has to be strong enough to stay in place.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-127-237-06.jpg

You could avoid the Abit I/O plate entirely. That would make more
room for the fans to blow, but then you don't get good grounding
of the outside of the connector stacks, by the metal fingers on
the I/O plate. The spring contacts are supposed to help with EMI
suppression.

If you need more help, provide some links to the hardware.

Paul- Hide quoted text -

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Ok thanks i didnt see that alright heres my build, can u tell me if
its any good?? Ive read so many reviews on all of it, and people have
said some of its pretty good, i think i found a new case though, but
its just to fancy for me, to many led's im not to much for them, just
a lot of people had suggested this case, but anyway do u think i got
atleast a nice system that will run good for a few years till more
upgrades become cheaper??
Heres the new case im looking at...http://www.newegg.com/Product/
Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144151

 

[Paul]

Ok thanks i didnt see that alright heres my build, can u tell me if
its any good?? Ive read so many reviews on all of it, and people have
said some of its pretty good, i think i found a new case though, but
its just to fancy for me, to many led's im not to much for them, just
a lot of people had suggested this case, but anyway do u think i got
atleast a nice system that will run good for a few years till more
upgrades become cheaper??
Heres the new case im looking at...http://www.newegg.com/Product/
Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144151

That still ships with an I/O plate in the back. You remove the plate
that comes with the computer case, and then install the Abit
provided plate. Or, if you want the two fans on the Abit
board to "breathe" better, don't use an I/O plate at all.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/11-144-151-04.jpg

The description of the case, says it handles a board up to 12" x 11".
Standard ATX size is 12" x 9.6", so there should be some spare room
next to it. That should make it easier to use long video cards.

Note that, while the picture I selected on the Newegg site, shows
a power supply installed, none of the other pictures show a power
supply. I assume the product doesn't come with a power supply
and that is a good thing. You want the ability to buy the power
supply separately, so you can select a product with power rating
suited to the build, and select a product where there aren't a lot
of reports of "DOA" or failing soon after purchase.

Since my computer sits on my desk, the last thing I'd want is
blue LEDs shining in my face My case has two LEDs, and I
disconnected those on the first day.

Paul

 

[pbsvek]

That still ships with an I/O plate in the back. You remove the plate
that comes with the computer case, and then install the Abit
provided plate. Or, if you want the two fans on the Abit
board to "breathe" better, don't use an I/O plate at all.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/11-144-151-04.jpg

The description of the case, says it handles a board up to 12" x 11".
Standard ATX size is 12" x 9.6", so there should be some spare room
next to it. That should make it easier to use long video cards.

Note that, while the picture I selected on the Newegg site, shows
a power supply installed, none of the other pictures show a power
supply. I assume the product doesn't come with a power supply
and that is a good thing. You want the ability to buy the power
supply separately, so you can select a product with power rating
suited to the build, and select a product where there aren't a lot
of reports of "DOA" or failing soon after purchase.

Since my computer sits on my desk, the last thing I'd want is
blue LEDs shining in my face My case has two LEDs, and I
disconnected those on the first day.

Paul

lol yuh, i switched cases to something with a little mpre flow to the
video cards, just a few hints that they run a little warm, so my build
looks good?? and i changed my video card to XFX 7900GS SLI Suppurted
to where the other wasnt

 

[Paul]

lol yuh, i switched cases to something with a little mpre flow to the
video cards, just a few hints that they run a little warm, so my build
looks good?? and i changed my video card to XFX 7900GS SLI Suppurted
to where the other wasnt

The APEVIA X-CRUISER-BK has an 80mm on the back. I like to see a wire
grill, to get better airflow. The cheese grater approach tends to
hold back the airflow more.

For the 7900GS, I cannot find a nice measurement of the power. It should
use less power than a 7900GT, say less than 12V @ 4A. Two of them would be
12V @ 8A.

The processor is 65W or (65/12)*(1/0.90) = 6A from 12V.

http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADO5000IAA6CZ

Add another 2.6A for HDD, CD/DVD, and fans, brings the total up to 16.6A
from +12V. If the power supply is dual rail, that is 6A from 12V2 for the
processor, and 10.6A from 12V1 for the rest. The power supply should be equipped
with two PCI Express 2x3 power connectors, so that you won't need to find adapter
cables.

The Rosewill certainly has impressive specs, but the brand is not high
on my list. Whether the supply can really deliver these numbers, is
anyone's guess.

+3.3V @ 30A, +5V @ 55A, +12V1 @ 19A, +12V2 @ 19A, -12V @ 1A, +5VSB @ 2.5A

While this is not the same product, it will give you some idea as to what
is inside.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=48

Paul

 

[pbsvek]

The APEVIA X-CRUISER-BK has an 80mm on the back. I like to see a wire
grill, to get better airflow. The cheese grater approach tends to
hold back the airflow more.

For the 7900GS, I cannot find a nice measurement of the power. It should
use less power than a 7900GT, say less than 12V @ 4A. Two of them would be
12V @ 8A.

The processor is 65W or (65/12)*(1/0.90) = 6A from 12V.

http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADO5000IAA6CZ

Add another 2.6A for HDD, CD/DVD, and fans, brings the total up to 16.6A
from +12V. If the power supply is dual rail, that is 6A from 12V2 for the
processor, and 10.6A from 12V1 for the rest. The power supply should be equipped
with two PCI Express 2x3 power connectors, so that you won't need to find adapter
cables.

The Rosewill certainly has impressive specs, but the brand is not high
on my list. Whether the supply can really deliver these numbers, is
anyone's guess.

+3.3V @ 30A, +5V @ 55A, +12V1 @ 19A, +12V2 @ 19A, -12V @ 1A, +5VSB @ 2.5A

While this is not the same product, it will give you some idea as to what
is inside.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=48

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Ok thanks Paul, I found a case i think im gonna go with, has 2 80mm
fans on the side, around where my graphics card is, which can run hot
with another for SLI, and the a new Rosewill PSU, it has 2x80mm one to
blow out from the case, one that sucks air from the case, and another
that blows out of the case i think is how it goes
here are here the links
case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811166004

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182087
ill be ordering all my parts tonight or tomorrow

 

[Pecos]

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Ok thanks Paul, I found a case i think im gonna go with, has 2 80mm
fans on the side, around where my graphics card is, which can run hot
with another for SLI, and the a new Rosewill PSU, it has 2x80mm one to
blow out from the case, one that sucks air from the case, and another
that blows out of the case i think is how it goes
here are here the links
case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811166004

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182087
ill be ordering all my parts tonight or tomorrow

I have a similar Rosewill PSU with the chrome finish - the RD600-2DC-SL.
To be honest though, chrome or black you don't notice it when it sits in
the top of the case and mostly hidden from view.

The bottom fan stopped spinning or would turn slowly and then stick. I
finally decided to pull the thing and return it. Much to my surprise the
bottom fan was spinning at full speed.

In writing this I thought I would go back to Newegg and check the specs.
Sure enough, the PSU has 'smart and silent' fans with temperature sensor.
During the winter the inside temperature was low enough that the bottom
fan wasn't needed. The specs at Newegg for the model you are considering
also say 'smart and silent' fans, so don't be surprised if one of the
fans slows down or stops in a cool room.

It's been a great performer with the voltages reported in the BIOS right
at or slightly above where they should be. I've been using it for a year
now.

It is rated at >80% efficiency and judging from the barely warm air
coming out of the back, I can believe it. It runs much cooler than any
other PSU I have owned.

Mine has very nice black nylon mesh sleeving for a very clean look in
your case. The model you are looking at is supposed to have the same. A
definite plus.

The blue LED's I can live without but not a problem either.

This PSU is a great match for systems with a Core 2 Duo CPU. Both are
efficient and powerful.

I doubt you will have buyers' remorse with the model you have chosen.

Have fun with your build.

 

[pbsvek]

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I have a similar Rosewill PSU with the chrome finish - the RD600-2DC-SL.
To be honest though, chrome or black you don't notice it when it sits in
the top of the case and mostly hidden from view.

The bottom fan stopped spinning or would turn slowly and then stick. I
finally decided to pull the thing and return it. Much to my surprise the
bottom fan was spinning at full speed.

In writing this I thought I would go back to Newegg and check the specs.
Sure enough, the PSU has 'smart and silent' fans with temperature sensor.
During the winter the inside temperature was low enough that the bottom
fan wasn't needed. The specs at Newegg for the model you are considering
also say 'smart and silent' fans, so don't be surprised if one of the
fans slows down or stops in a cool room.

It's been a great performer with the voltages reported in the BIOS right
at or slightly above where they should be. I've been using it for a year
now.

It is rated at >80% efficiency and judging from the barely warm air
coming out of the back, I can believe it. It runs much cooler than any
other PSU I have owned.

Mine has very nice black nylon mesh sleeving for a very clean look in
your case. The model you are looking at is supposed to have the same. A
definite plus.

The blue LED's I can live without but not a problem either.

This PSU is a great match for systems with a Core 2 Duo CPU. Both are
efficient and powerful.

I doubt you will have buyers' remorse with the model you have chosen.

Have fun with your build.

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Ok cool a lot of help there on the PSU, nice to know someone has the
same model and has no problems after about a year, on my hard drive
situation, i was thinking to buy a Seagate Barracuda like 150 gig or
around that area to get me by for a while, then ill buy a Raptor 74gig
or higher for gamming and just have PC boot off of Barracuda and keep
music and suck on Barracuda and improtant files, even though it will
be a gaming PC i will have other things on it, so ill run my games off
the Raptor 10K RPM and both them HD's are SATA correct??