Need IE6 ...

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Neil Gould

I need to install IE6 on a machine that is not connected to the internet.
Does someone know where I can find a distribution version of IE6? The MS
IE6 page only has the IE6 SP1 hot-install version, which stops after not
finding an internet connection... 8-(

Thx,

Neil
 
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Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM

Neil Gould said:
I need to install IE6 on a machine that is not connected to the internet.
Does someone know where I can find a distribution version of IE6? The MS
IE6 page only has the IE6 SP1 hot-install version, which stops after not
finding an internet connection... 8-(

Thx,

Neil
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Downloading Internet Explorer For A Different Operating System
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=174680
 
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Robert Aldwinckle

Neil Gould said:
Hi Frank,

Thanks for the quick reply...


Unfortunately, the instructions regarding the command line to run the
program lead to an "invalid filename" error message, so the program
doesn't run. Any suggestions?
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What you really should be saying is that the instructions you tried to follow
(which you aren't giving us) caused you to type something (which you aren't giving us)
that caused that symptom.

For example, if you ended up on this article

<title>Download-only installation of Internet Explorer 6.0, Internet Explorer 5.5,
or Internet Explorer 5.1 in Windows XP or in Windows 2000</title>
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/257249/EN-US/

I can well imagine that you might misinterpret either the instructions
or the use of the meta characters in its examples.

FWIW here is how I last described the minimum procedure.

<paste>
Actually what it is sometimes shown and makes more sense as
is that the #E is just a placeholder for a target directory.

In fact, what works, when the target directory is the same as the
directory for ie6setup.exe (which may be otherwise empty) is:

ie6setup /c:"ie6wzd /d:1"

</paste>


Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
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Neil Gould

Hi Robert,

Thanks for your response and attempt to help me sort this out. After my
last message, I discovered that I mistyped part of the command line
(serves me right for trying it pre-coffee at 5:00AM). However, that was
only a minor matter that didn't resolve my initial problem.

Recently said:
For example, if you ended up on this article

<title>Download-only installation of Internet Explorer 6.0, Internet
Explorer 5.5,
or Internet Explorer 5.1 in Windows XP or in Windows 2000</title>
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/257249/EN-US/

I can well imagine that you might misinterpret either the instructions
or the use of the meta characters in its examples.

FWIW here is how I last described the minimum procedure.

<paste>
Actually what it is sometimes shown and makes more sense as
is that the #E is just a placeholder for a target directory.

In fact, what works, when the target directory is the same as the
directory for ie6setup.exe (which may be otherwise empty) is:

ie6setup /c:"ie6wzd /d:1"
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[...]

Both the full command line and your shortcut give the same result as
running the program with no command line switches. After the wizard boots
and the OS is selected, it tries to download files from the internet,
which of course fails with a proxy server error because, as I mentioned in
my original plea, that machine has no access to the internet.

I was hoping that there was the equivalent to service pack updates or a
stand-alone installer for ie6 that would avoid this problem.

Best,

Neil
 
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Neil Gould

Hi PA Bear,

Recently said:
Download details: Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1:
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[...]

Yes, that is the file that started my inquiry. It looks for files on the
internet when run.

Best,

Neil
 
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Robert Aldwinckle

Neil Gould said:
Hi Robert,

Thanks for your response and attempt to help me sort this out. After my
last message, I discovered that I mistyped part of the command line
(serves me right for trying it pre-coffee at 5:00AM). However, that was
only a minor matter that didn't resolve my initial problem.

Recently said:
For example, if you ended up on this article

<title>Download-only installation of Internet Explorer 6.0, Internet
Explorer 5.5,
or Internet Explorer 5.1 in Windows XP or in Windows 2000</title>
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/257249/EN-US/

I can well imagine that you might misinterpret either the instructions
or the use of the meta characters in its examples.

FWIW here is how I last described the minimum procedure.

<paste>
Actually what it is sometimes shown and makes more sense as
is that the #E is just a placeholder for a target directory.

In fact, what works, when the target directory is the same as the
directory for ie6setup.exe (which may be otherwise empty) is:

ie6setup /c:"ie6wzd /d:1"
Click to expand...
[...]

Both the full command line and your shortcut give the same result as
running the program with no command line switches. After the wizard boots
and the OS is selected, it tries to download files from the internet,
which of course fails with a proxy server error because, as I mentioned in
my original plea, that machine has no access to the internet.
Click to expand...


We are assuming that you have a machine which does connect to the Internet
and that is where you are trying these commands. The /D:1 switch allows
you to pick an IE6sp1 for an OS which is different from the one you are
using.

Once you do the download you would have to do a SneakerNet file transfer
to the target machine.

However, this reminds me that even after you do all that you may still have
a problem with the lack of connectivity because the act of installing may still
appear to need a connection in order to validate the downloaded files.
The one time when I did this I got around that problem by setting Connections
settings to Never dial and that meant that at most a LAN connection would
be tried. Even then since it saw a modem it tried to prompt me to dial out
but I disallowed that and the install finally worked. Since then I have always
installed from a CD--much less trouble that way. ; )

I was hoping that there was the equivalent to service pack updates or a
stand-alone installer for ie6 that would avoid this problem.
Click to expand...


Many packages still provide an IE6sp1 to be installed optionally
as a way to support their documentation. You could try getting it
that way if you can't get it any other way.


HTH

Robert
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Neil Gould

Hi Robert,

Recently said:
Neil Gould said:
Both the full command line and your shortcut give the same result as
running the program with no command line switches. After the wizard
boots and the OS is selected, it tries to download files from the
internet, which of course fails with a proxy server error because,
as I mentioned in my original plea, that machine has no access to
the internet.
Click to expand...


We are assuming that you have a machine which does connect to the
Internet and that is where you are trying these commands. [...]
Once you do the download you would have to do a SneakerNet file
transfer to the target machine.
Click to expand...
Well, it's not quite that bad... the machine is on my network, just
isolated from the internet fork. ;-)
However, this reminds me that even after you do all that you may
still have a problem with the lack of connectivity because the act of installing
may still appear to need a connection in order to validate the
downloaded files.
Click to expand...
This appears to be exactly the issue.
The one time when I did this I got around that problem by setting
Connections settings to Never dial and that meant that at most a
LAN connection would be tried. Even then since it saw a modem it
tried to prompt me to dial out
but I disallowed that and the install finally worked. Since then I
have always installed from a CD--much less trouble that way. ; )
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Are you suggesting that putting ie6setup.exe on a CD and using the switch
worked, or that you installed from some other source of ie6 on a CD?
Many packages still provide an IE6sp1 to be installed optionally
as a way to support their documentation. You could try getting it
that way if you can't get it any other way.
Click to expand...
The problem I'm trying to solve is very similar... an application requires
ie6 or higher as its UI, but doesn't supply it on their installation disc.
It seems odd to me that MS doesn't provide an easy way to obtain and
install the program without going through all this.

Thanks,

Neil
 
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Robert Aldwinckle

Are you suggesting that putting ie6setup.exe on a CD and using the switch
worked, or that you installed from some other source of ie6 on a CD?
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No. You use ie6setup with the switch on a machine which is connected
to the Internet. Do it from an otherwise empty directory. When the
download is done you will then have more files in that directory.

Copy all the files in that directory (somehow) to the target machine.
Run ie6setup there. (I can't remember if there is another switch
needed to say where the files are if you don't download to the same
directory. Probably but I don't think it is necessary if you keep all
the files in the same directory.)

Also, FWIW I chose minimal install thinking that I could always
update further later. (My problem was actually that I was creating
a second NT4 partition and it only provides IE2 which doesn't do
ActiveX which is needed for using WU. I could have done it
by bootstrapping from the IE4 CD that came with the OS
to provide the NT4sp4 it containeed and later I discovered
that I could get an IE6 CD which contained NT4sp6a.)

The problem I'm trying to solve is very similar... an application requires
ie6 or higher as its UI, but doesn't supply it on their installation disc.
It seems odd to me that MS doesn't provide an easy way to obtain and
install the program without going through all this.
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In fact it was MS apps that I was thinking of. TechNet CDs. MSDN CDs.
Office CDs. Visual Studio CDs. It's not too hard to find one with IE6 in it.
I thought there might actually even be one on my XP CD but didn't find it there.
That's because it is built in to the OS but it still doesn't help the case for someone
wanting to read the .htm doc files before installing it. I guess for that case just
any minimal browsing capability is all that is required so they don't need to provide
a separately installable one.

You can still order an IE6sp1 CD if necessary. See [order a copy...] link on this page
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/critical/ie6sp1/default.mspx

Thanks,

Neil
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Good luck

Robert
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