Need help with a Font not appearing correctly with Button

[Guest]

Lengthy explanation of problem to follow... only because last MVP was unable
to answer adequately. I've filled in as many blanks as possible to help
you... hopefully help me ...figure this problem out. Many Thanks

I am using FrontPage 2003 in a Windows XP (SP2) (PC) environment and am
having trouble with INTERACTIVE BUTTONS.

PROBLEM: When I place an interactive button on the web page and specify
Handel Gothic BT as the font for the button's text, the font comes out
looking like Arial on the button... not Handel Gothic BT.

I'm fairly sure the Handel Gothic BT font is loaded on the system since I
can type a line of Handel Goth text on the same web page as the button is on.
I can also type lines of text in Handel Gothic in MS Word without a
problem... so the font appears to be installled properly.

What I've tried so far:

I've updated Frontpage via the MS website and tried creating the Interactive
Button again as above. Still no success.

I've uninstalled and reloaded the font on the Windows OS. The font still
doesn't appear correctly when used with an interactive button.

The Handel Gothic BT font does appear in the drop down list for the
INTERACTIVE BUTTON and is selectable... it's just that the Handel font seems
to be replaced by a font that looks like Arial.

I looked at the font files in the Control Panel (Windows) and noticed that
the Handel Gothic BT font had an "a" symbol next to it. Not a "TT" or an "O"
like most of the other fonts listed. The font icon also has a tiny white
square with a tiny arrow on it. None of the other font icons have this on
them. Not sure what that means.

I did some web searching and found that the Handel Gothic font is available
in both True Type and Adobe Type 1 formats. It appears that I have the Adobe
version loaded on my computer.

The best I can figure is that the Interactive Button does not work with the
Adobe Type 1 font... but may work with the True Type version. The weird
thing is... six months ago I was able to use this font on an interactive
button and it worked fine. Now when I tried adding a new button to the same
web page and use the Handel Font, it doesn't appear correctly.

Any ideas what might be going on with this button/font combo??? Any help
greatly appreciated.

- Will

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Can you provide a URL to the page on web using the font and the IBs with this font?

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[Guest]

Hi Thomas:

Unfortunately the site won't be on the web for 5 weeks or so from now.

But I am reminded that the last version of the webpage that I created 6 mos.
ago was on another computer (a Toshiba using XP Home). The new system is an
HP with XP Pro. I've done some more web searching and am thinking that the
Toshiba might have had "Adobe ATM" installed on it, whereas the HP system
does not. Do you think that might be the cause of the problem I'm
encountering?

- Will

 

[Steve Easton]

Ok. A few words about fonts.

All fonts are not created equal, which is something I learned when working on a utility
that uses fonts as part of creating an image.

Not all fonts show at all sizes, nor do all fonts display as Bold, Italic, or BoldItalic
even though
the option "seems" available in the font dialog.

If you select a font style that does not exist fin the font you have selected, the system
"can" revert to a "standard" or "default" font.

The best fonts to use "normally" are .ttf or True Type Fonts, for reasons that are not
readily apparent to "us" as we work at the browser / web site level.

A short explanation why:
Although we work at the "pixel" level, correctly defined fonts are designed to render at
what is popularly called the "sub pixel" level.

What is "sub pixel"??

There's more to pixels than meets the eye, and the proper name for "sub pixel" is
"Twips"
The operating system is capable of rendering fonts, images, etc at the Twip level.
Properly designed / created fonts render at this level.

Font's that show with jagged edges are only designed to display at the pixel level.
Fonts with smooth edges display at the "twip" level

Also fwiw, this is one of the reasons for the difference in image quality between .bmp,
..jpg, and .gif images.
( Which is a whole different subject )

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