MyIE2 is Nagware

[Buz Overbeck]

The latest version repeatedly (at intervals) throws up a "donation" nag
screen. It provides a box to uncheck if you don't want to see the screen
again but unchecking it has no effect. It continues to display at random
times.

I've e-mailed the author about this but have received to reply. I think it
should be considered being removed from the freeware category.

 

[omega]

The latest version repeatedly (at intervals) throws up a "donation" nag
screen. It provides a box to uncheck if you don't want to see the screen
again but unchecking it has no effect. It continues to display at random
times.

The subject of this message was alarming to me. Has anyone else downloaded
the latest MyIE2 to confirm?

At least there is a checkbox to turn off the nag, so one can assume that
you're seeing a temporary bug. Yet...implanting the nag to the interface to
begin with, upping the pressure for monetary contributions...rather wonder
what that suggests.

The author made an announcement earlier this year, that he planned to
develop a payware release. He made assurances that he would concurrently
spend energies on a freeware version. Yet you never know what a developer's
next move on such things will turn out to be....

I've e-mailed the author about this but have received to reply. I think it
should be considered being removed from the freeware category.

PL can still include it, whatever the case can become for new developments,
by linking to a known freeware version.

 

[Art Iculos Libres]

The latest version repeatedly (at intervals) throws up a "donation" nag
screen. It provides a box to uncheck if you don't want to see the screen
again but unchecking it has no effect. It continues to display at random
times.

I've e-mailed the author about this but have received to reply. I think it
should be considered being removed from the freeware category.

Hey, Buzz.

I noticed the same thing, but I still have some reservations about calling
MyIE2 nagware just yet. I installed the latest version (0910, I believe) on
the day it came out, which was 11/27/03. I responded to the nag by saying I
didn't want to see it again, just as you did. Then the next day, I had a
hard crash / lock -up because too much was running on the PC, and I had to
reboot. When I got back on and fired up MyIE2, I got the nag screen again
(hmm?) and proceeded through it as before. When I got into MyIE, I noticed
that the crash had unlocked my toolbars and slid everything over to the
left of the screen (I adjusted the tool bars and re-locked them, and all
was good).

I have not seen the nag since, and what I'm hoping is that the crash might
have reset the nag option rather than it being some deliberately programmed
issue. I think the last couple (at least the previous) version of MyIE2 had
the nag screen asking for donations, and it never re-appeared once opting
out after installation. The newest version is too new to really know for
sure yet, but based on previous version's behavior of the nag screen and
the fact that it appeared again with the newest version after a crash (for
me anyway) gives me hope that it's not going to be an issue. Guess I'll
wait and see, or maybe you'll hear from the MyIE2 people and then post back
to us.

 

[Jari Lehtonen]

The latest version repeatedly (at intervals) throws up a "donation" nag
screen. It provides a box to uncheck if you don't want to see the screen
again but unchecking it has no effect. It continues to display at random
times.

I've e-mailed the author about this but have received to reply. I think it
should be considered being removed from the freeware category.

I was getting another nag also after teh initial one. Don't know if it
was because some system failure etc. MyIE2 is fine but really, who
would pay money for another IE-add-on? Keep it free and enjoy the
popularity among users (like Linus Thorvalds does with his Linux).

Jari

 

[omega]

I was getting another nag also after teh initial one. Don't know if it
was because some system failure etc. MyIE2 is fine but really, who
would pay money for another IE-add-on?

[...]
There are a good freeware choices amongst the MSIE browser family, so
I'd have no reason to pay for one. Probably the same for most ACF'ers.

That said, there is a good money-making opportunity for MyIE2 or one
like it. Distribution to ISPs. And let them brand it a bit (throbber,
titlebar, etc). Then they brag about it as part of their service, about
its pop-up stoppers, custom search, etc etc.

You'll have noticed already this trend with ISPs. Selling as part of
their service things that you and I can do better by getting our own
freeware - but which is not the norm for the public.

I venture that Bloodchen could perhaps become a prosperous dude if he
took up with an American (most ISPs, commercial) contact who was skilled
in business dealings.

 

[Tiger]

The subject of this message was alarming to me. Has anyone else
downloaded the latest MyIE2 to confirm?

Yes. I downloaded and used it for about 3 days and the nag screen
popped up about 3 times. I had a similar problem with another
browser, so I tried the same trick, but alas, it still nagged.
Uninstalled and forgotten. Slimbrowser still reigns.

 

[Simone Murdock]

The subject of this message was alarming to me. Has anyone else downloaded
the latest MyIE2 to confirm?

I use 9.10 from the day of the release and the box appeared only the
first time.

The author made an announcement earlier this year, that he planned to
develop a payware release.

:-(((((((((
No,no, no....... :-(((
It will be "Netcaptor 2 - the revenge", I already know the
history....(mailwasher, karall, ...)

He made assurances that he would concurrently spend energies on a freeware
version.

Oh, sure...many many energies....but why if he wants money ?

OK, what's the alternative ?
I hope in Firebird growth (in compatibility and speed [especially on
startup]).

I don't understand thie decision: as payware there's already Netcaptor
(I've always thought that MyIE was a clone of Netcaptor); as freeware
IE-based there are so many programs (Slimbrowser, Avantbrowser,
Greenbrowser, Crazybrowser, Dominica, E2browser, Surftabs,
Phaseout,...)..for a complete list, take a look here:
http://www.geocities.com/tabbedbrowsers/

Simone
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[Harvey Van Sickle]

On 04 Dec 2003, Simone Murdock wrote

-snip-

I don't understand thie decision: as payware there's already
Netcaptor (I've always thought that MyIE was a clone of
Netcaptor); as freeware IE-based there are so many programs
(Slimbrowser, Avantbrowser, Greenbrowser, Crazybrowser, Dominica,
E2browser, Surftabs, Phaseout,...)..for a complete list, take a
look here: http://www.geocities.com/tabbedbrowsers/

I don't understand the payware idea, either -- as you say, there are
many, many IE tabbed browser shells out there which are very similar to
MyIE.

I went over to a paid shell (iRider), but that's because it has certain
unique features that I found incredibly useful that weren't on offer in
any of the (numerous) tabbed shells and tabbed browsers I'd tried.

MyIE2 is good -- I've recommended it to friends who've been very happy
with it -- but its features are just not different enough from the
other free shells to warrant paying for it. Any payware version would
need to be a *lot* different to change that.

 

[Jari Lehtonen]

That said, there is a good money-making opportunity for MyIE2 or one
like it. Distribution to ISPs. And let them brand it a bit (throbber,
titlebar, etc). Then they brag about it as part of their service, about
its pop-up stoppers, custom search, etc etc.

I venture that Bloodchen could perhaps become a prosperous dude if he
took up with an American (most ISPs, commercial) contact who was skilled
in business dealings.

But because it is based MS.n IE which is a copyrighted product, does
he have rights to sell this product without payn to MS licensing fees?

jari

 

[Bob Adkins]

The latest version repeatedly (at intervals) throws up a "donation" nag
screen. It provides a box to uncheck if you don't want to see the screen
again but unchecking it has no effect. It continues to display at random
times.

I've e-mailed the author about this but have received to reply. I think it
should be considered being removed from the freeware category.

Your computer is most likely not re-starting normally. (crashing)

Shut down MyIE2, shut down Windows normally, and re-boot. No more nag.

Bob

 

[DAN]

The latest version repeatedly (at intervals) throws up a "donation" nag
screen. It provides a box to uncheck if you don't want to see the screen
again but unchecking it has no effect. It continues to display at random
times.

No it does not. Not unless you crash your system or stuff like that.
I use it everyday and don't see the nag.

I think it should be considered being removed from the freeware category.

Next time, maybe you'll want to check on others' experiences before writing
stuff like this.

DAN

 

[Buz Overbeck]

No it does not. Not unless you crash your system or stuff like that.
I use it everyday and don't see the nag.

Next time, maybe you'll want to check on others' experiences before writing
stuff like this.

DAN

Next time, maybe you'll want to check the responses of others before
writing stuff like this.

 

[Duddits]

The subject of this message was alarming to me. Has anyone else downloaded
the latest MyIE2 to confirm

This has only happened to me when WinXP has to force MYIE2 to close.

02

Dud

 

[bassbag]

The latest version repeatedly (at intervals) throws up a "donation" nag
screen. It provides a box to uncheck if you don't want to see the screen
again but unchecking it has no effect. It continues to display at random
times.

I've e-mailed the author about this but have received to reply. I think it
should be considered being removed from the freeware category.

Navigate to myie2 folder>config> and open up myie.ini with notepad.Change
ShowDonateDlg=1 to ShowDonateDlg=0 .... save and exit.

me

 

[Tiger]

Your computer is most likely not re-starting normally. (crashing)

Shut down MyIE2, shut down Windows normally, and re-boot. No more
nag.

Not true. I've done this several times on my 98se machine. It still
nagged.

 

[Art Iculos Libres]

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:11:53 -0800, Buz Overbeck wrote:

Next time, maybe you'll want to check the responses of others before
writing stuff like this.

Buz,

I don't think I would have responded to your assertion quite as strongly as
Dan did (and come to think of it I didn't , but your response to Dan
seems to imply that the posts in this thread support your point more than
Dan's. Let's see:

Out of 10 posters total so far (excluding you), we have:

1 Post stating that your post was cause for concern IF true
1 Post stating that the nags appeared 3 times in 3 days (reason unknown)
1 Post stating that the nag only appeared once (at initial startup) in the
8 days or so that the newest version has been available
1 Post questioning the logic of payware without comment on actual
experience with the nag issue
4 Posts stating that the nag re-appeared due to a crash of some sort based
on the users experience
1 Post stating that a nag problem occurred, but the user was unsure if it
was related to a crash or not
1 Post providing a workaround by modifying an *.ini file without commenting
on what might be causing the nag / *.ini to be reset in the first place

The posts are hardly overwhelming evidence that MyIE2 is deliberately
nagware. So far, the erratic appearance of the nag (when and if it does
reappear again after being turned off by the user) looks more like a bug.

Maybe the subject of your post should have been a question (as in: Is MyIE2
Nagware?) as opposed to the emphatic statement that you have made. I
believe that is why Dan responded to you as he did. From what I've seen
though, your response to him is not supported by the "responses" that you
point to as evidence supporting your claim.

 

[Jack D. Russell, Sr.]

You can add another "I saw it once when I first installed the program".
Win XP Pro/IE 6/My IE2 0.9.10 installed the first day it was available.

AIL> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:11:53 -0800, Buz Overbeck wrote:

AIL> <snip>
FL> >> Next time, maybe you'll want to check on others' experiences
FL>> Next time, maybe you'll want to check the responses of others
FL>> before writing stuff like this.

AIL> Buz,

AIL> I don't think I would have responded to your assertion quite as
AIL> strongly as Dan did (and come to think of it I didn't , but your
AIL> response to Dan seems to imply that the posts in this thread
AIL> support your point more than Dan's. Let's see:

AIL> Out of 10 posters total so far (excluding you), we have:

 

[DAN]

The posts are hardly overwhelming evidence that MyIE2 is deliberately
nagware.

Maybe the subject of your post should have been a question (as in: Is MyIE2
Nagware?) as opposed to the emphatic statement that you have made. I
believe that is why Dan responded to you as he did. From what I've seen
though, your response to him is not supported by the "responses" that you
point to as evidence supporting your claim.

The point exactly. It's about an individual's social responsibility and deciding
to hurt authors who provide a free service. (And a great one in this case)

It seems to be lost to an immature ego, though. Oh well...
DAN

 

[Bob Adkins]

Not true. I've done this several times on my 98se machine. It still
nagged.

Your computer is possessed. I've never been nagged by MyIE2 aside from the
initial launch after a new install.

Bob

 

[Buz Overbeck]

Art is exactly right. The subject line should have read "Is MyEIW
Nagware...". I also should have prefaced my text with "It has been my
experience...", and ended it with "In my humble opinion".

Sorry.

The point exactly. It's about an individual's social responsibility and deciding
to hurt authors who provide a free service. (And a great one in this case)

It seems to be lost to an immature ego, though. Oh well...
DAN

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