MVP's in training... a primer (revised)

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Frank

Mugsy said:
It would be nice if there was a check to see if you were running an
activated/validated version of Windows before you were allowed to post in any
of these news groups. If you're not activated/validated your post
automatically gets deleted.

That would get rid of the Linsux Luzzzzzzzzers once and for all.

Oh that's a great idea! If only....
Hold on, I believe the Adobe forums are moderated and I'm sure most the
trash dot boys are blocked form posting their incoherent rants over there.
If only....
Frank
 
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Alias

Mike said:
So why are you using XP on two computers? How come your household is[n't]
entirely Linux based?

As I have stated *many* times, I am transitioning to Ubuntu. Eventually,
I will have no computers with Windows on them.

Alias
 
G

Guest

You have Windows on 2 computers in your home why?

Oh hell, I know - so you can actually get some work done and be productive.
 
F

Frank

Former said:
Tell me, when you look in the mirror in profile.. do you have a low forehead
and protruding brow?
Is your jaw more heavy than the rest of the people you see around you?

If so you are a finding! Please contact your nearest anthropologists..... I
think we just discovered
a lost branch in the evolution tree!

Oh..you are weak aren't you.
Not surprising...we all knew that anyway.
Frank
 
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Alias

Frank said:
Oh that's a great idea! If only....
Hold on, I believe the Adobe forums are moderated and I'm sure most the
trash dot boys are blocked form posting their incoherent rants over there.
If only....
Frank

Nothing like censorship to make you feel like a real MS fanboy, eh?

Alias
 
F

Frank

Former said:
Yeah.. good idea... lets add a tag to all the personal information about the
posters too,
in a huuugeeee database,
so if we dont agree with what they are saying we can lynch them....

Why bother. Most of you linux loser guys eventually end up shooting
yourself in the foot then wonder why you're hobbled.
Frank
 
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Alias

Mugsy said:
You have Windows on 2 computers in your home why?

Because, like many people, I am not completely Ubuntu savvy yet. When I
am, bye, bye Windows.
Oh hell, I know - so you can actually get some work done and be productive.

Once I get my printer and fax working on Ubuntu, all my work will be
done on Ubuntu.

Care to respond to the points below or can you?

Alias
 
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Alias

Frank said:
Why bother. Most of you linux loser guys eventually end up shooting
yourself in the foot then wonder why you're hobbled.
Frank

What does one lose by going to Linux?

1. Paying through the nose for Windows

2. Viruses and malware.

3. Activation.

4. Genuine Disadvantage.

5. IE7

6. Looking for drivers everywhere and having to constantly update
applications individually.

7. Identity theft.

8. Having your computer hijacked.

9. Phone activation.

And a very long etc.

Alias
 
M

Mike Hall - MS MVP

Transition? what is holding you up? By your own words, Ubuntu is easy to
learn and there are thousands of FREE programs out there..

You're a fake.. if you really thought so much of Linux, you would have
changed by now.. what is it that you call us? Fanboys?


Alias said:
Mike said:
So why are you using XP on two computers? How come your household is[n't]
entirely Linux based?

As I have stated *many* times, I am transitioning to Ubuntu. Eventually, I
will have no computers with Windows on them.

Alias
 
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Alias

Mike said:
Transition? what is holding you up? By your own words, Ubuntu is easy to
learn and there are thousands of FREE programs out there..

I can take as long as my little heart desires. If you don't like that,
tough titties.
You're a fake.. if you really thought so much of Linux, you would have
changed by now.. what is it that you call us? Fanboys?
Yawn.

Alias


Alias said:
Mike said:
So why are you using XP on two computers? How come your household
is[n't] entirely Linux based?

As I have stated *many* times, I am transitioning to Ubuntu.
Eventually, I will have no computers with Windows on them.

Alias
 
A

Adam Albright

Well then nuts to all you guys! I don't need to spend any more of my time
trying to help jerks who make blanket statements about people who give
hundreds of hours a month for no renumeration simply because they like
seeing other users have a pleasant experience with Windows. I am absolutely
furious about both the tone and content of this thread and embarrassed for
the lot of you. If this is the direction this ng has gone since my illness
I feel sorry for all of you.

Childish, but oh so TYPICAL response from somebody that obviously
didn't bother to read the full post that said MOST, not all MVPs.
Hundreds of hours a month doing what, cut and paste? Please... people
know all too well that's the typical MVP response. A simple, quick
rehash of the same almost useless comments made probably hundreds of
times before with little if any regard to the details the poster of
the original question may have inquired about.

A typical MVP cookie cutter answer done mostly to impress and stir up
business for themselves... proving more times than not that the MVP
didn't even bother to fully read the question and simply tried to
"match" some canned answer in his requirement to keep his MVP status
by responding to X number of questions per month, the real reason
nearly all MVPs actually post to these so-called "support" groups,
just to keep their MVP badge, that all too often goes to their head
and mostly changes what might have been useful and helpful posters
into self-praising prima donna types overnight.

Suggesting MVPs spend "hundreds of hours a month" repeating cut and
paste replies, a obviously grossly and wildly distorted statement of
the facts is, well crazy.

I'm embarrassed that every day I see BLOWHARDS with MVP behind their
posting nick bellyaching, whining, showboating, pontificating and
making the lamest apologies for Microsoft while making feeble attempts
to prertend they somehow are "in charge" or have superior knowledge.
Quite a show to see.

Laughable really, and it destroys the value of the handful of MVPs
that really do make a effort to help, simply to help. The problem as
it has been for years is way too many MVPs forget to check their
inflated egos at the door, they get out of control, often come off as
some smartass, they frequently try to make fun of or talk down to
Microsoft customers, piss off more experienced posters that know way
more than they do and in general cause most of the unrest seen in this
"support" group by their gross misconduct. Sorry, if that's too much
truth for you to swallow, but the truth it is.

Microsoft several years ago was all set to pull the plug on the MVP
program for exactly these reasons. These newsgroups often end up being
an embarrassement to Microsoft since nobody at Microsoft seems to make
any public effort to keep unruly MVPs in control and punish them from
mouthing off to Microsoft's customer base day after day.

Time Microsoft did get rid of the MVP program. It does more harm then
good and you see more proof of that every day in these so-called
support groups which have been reduced to a marketing tool for those
wishing to make a buck at the expense of less experienced users.
 
R

Richard Urban

Two months and he still can't use it effectively!

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

Alias said:
Mike said:
Transition? what is holding you up? By your own words, Ubuntu is easy to
learn and there are thousands of FREE programs out there..

I can take as long as my little heart desires. If you don't like that,
tough titties.
You're a fake.. if you really thought so much of Linux, you would have
changed by now.. what is it that you call us? Fanboys?
Yawn.

Alias


Alias said:
Mike Hall - MS MVP wrote:
So why are you using XP on two computers? How come your household
is[n't] entirely Linux based?

As I have stated *many* times, I am transitioning to Ubuntu. Eventually,
I will have no computers with Windows on them.

Alias
 
M

Mike Hall - MS MVP

Printer and Fax? lol..


Alias said:
What does one lose by going to Linux?

1. Paying through the nose for Windows

2. Viruses and malware.

3. Activation.

4. Genuine Disadvantage.

5. IE7

6. Looking for drivers everywhere and having to constantly update
applications individually.

7. Identity theft.

8. Having your computer hijacked.

9. Phone activation.

And a very long etc.

Alias

--


Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
 
A

Adam Albright

John is the brainless leader of the lunix loser trolls.
He'll never find the kind of mental help he actually needs in this ng.
Frank

Frank, be serious. You and mental in the same post is really pushing
the limits. I estimate the average walnut is smarter then you are.
 
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Adam Albright

How pathetic and lame are you anyway! You, and your fellow linux losers
way of helping others who are actually seeking help is by making snide
disparaging remarks about a product a lot of us think you guys don't
even have or have never used.

What's dumber is clowns like you that DO use Vista and have no idea
what issues it really causes for SOME people. That puts you squarely
in the "I'm a dummy" camp since you love to pretend there are no real
issues with Vista. That's like some dope screaming I can't see...with
his hands over his eyes. You don't WANT to learn about Vista's
problems, so much simpler to call anybody that has them a dummy,
making you the real dummy.
 
T

Tom Porterfield

Alias said:
Once I get my printer and fax working on Ubuntu, all my work will be
done on Ubuntu.

How long have you worked on getting your printer and fax working on
Ubuntu? How long did it take you to get them working on Windows?
 
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Adam Albright

It's hard to say why but a small group of trolls has made a determined
effort to subvert this group. My personal opinion is that they are afraid of
anything new.

My observation is too many MVPs are self-centered blowhards out to try
to make a buck. Most MVPs so-called "help" is limited to cut and paste
BS anybody can find on hundreds of web sites spending 30 seconds at
Google. That some MVP took "time" to cut and paste such drivel is
hardly worth noting and in my book doesn't count as real help. It is
rather an exercise in ego stroking and part of the ongoing effort to
accumulate browny points to stay in the MVP program from which most
hope to profit. Now prtend that isn't the real reason most MVP spend
time here.

Actually helping by first reading the post all the way through then
giving a CUSTOM answer to some poster's ACTUAL question is what real
help is all about and something MVPs rarely if ever do, so sorry, I
have little use for the typical MVP post since what I just commented
on in 99% of MVP posts is all they amount to when they're not whining
about something like YOU are now.
They insist that Vista should work as XP did.

No, as a long time user of Windows, since version 2.0, I just expect
Windows to do what it CLAIMS it can. Odd, in 21 years of trying, that
is still the unobtainable goal. That of course does bug users that see
the same mistakes in Vista that were in XP, that were in Windows 98,
and so on. There comes a time when Microsoft needs to be held
accountable for being either UNABLE or unwilling to actually fix
what's been broke for years. Anybody that claims there are no such
things in Windows doesn't really know Windows at all.
Without change there can be no improvement. They are living in the past and afraid that
their knowledge of XP is now useless. Of course there are problems with
Vista. It's a new OS.

Just self-serving BS. Again, confirming what most MVP posts boil down
to. So many MVPs have some stupid need to pretend they knew more than
the next guy. If they didn't, there wouldn't be as much open
resesntment to the MVP crowd who to many are seen as pompous jerks.
When this is pointed out to them they attack. Very few
of them ever offer any help or even any constructive criticism of Vista.

Bullshit. I see the same from the typical MVP. No real help, lots and
lots of bellyaching, whining, moaning and excuse making.
 
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Adam Albright

It would be nice if there was a check to see if you were running an
activated/validated version of Windows before you were allowed to post in any
of these news groups. If you're not activated/validated your post
automatically gets deleted.

It would be nice if you reread the MVP guidelines for expected conduct
in these newsgroups that you said you would follow instead of just
shooting your mouth off every day.

That plain enough?
 
P

Peter Foldes

With you and others like you the best defense for ignorance is offence. It definitely shows

On the Bug scale I would say that it is in favor of Linux but it is close. See link on the bottom

Hmmm. I would say that Linux has just as many if not more. Here is a few just from the last 2 weeks.

http://www.frsirt.com/english/advisories/2007/1243
http://www.frsirt.com/english/advisories/2007/1242
http://www.frsirt.com/english/advisories/2007/1330
http://www.frsirt.com/english/advisories/2007/1329

As far as exploits with Linux Distros there is much more that with MS. Just go through the 108 pages of them.

http://www.frsirt.com/english/linux-advisories/2
 

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