Mouse performance question

M

mike

I have always been irritated by less than smooth mousing. With sample rates
not synched to monitor refresh, the mouse always skips pixels, even with a
hi res 1600dpi USB 2.0 mouse. The software drivers in XP have sample rates
for 60,80,100.
while standard monitor refresh rates are usually 60, 70, 72, 75, 85, 100.
So, in order to get smooth mousing like i want, i always have to either
choose 60 or 100 for my monitor refresh because it synchs up with the sample
rate that XP has set for mice. So, why in hell don't they make a standard or
something? My mouse, no matter what mouse i use, always moves smoother at
60hz or 100 than it does at 70, 72, 75 or 85hz. And this affects some games
that do not code for it to compensate. I lose a bit of accuracy if i don't
play at 60 or 100hz, and right now i can't play at 100 because my monitor
burnt out on me. I'm using an old one that has a max 75. Playing at 60 gets
irritating on the eyes at times. Am i wrong about this, and is there a fix
out there somewhere for it?
 
J

Jeff G

mike said:
I have always been irritated by less than smooth mousing. With sample rates
not synched to monitor refresh, the mouse always skips pixels, even with a
hi res 1600dpi USB 2.0 mouse. The software drivers in XP have sample rates
for 60,80,100.
while standard monitor refresh rates are usually 60, 70, 72, 75, 85, 100.
So, in order to get smooth mousing like i want, i always have to either
choose 60 or 100 for my monitor refresh because it synchs up with the sample
rate that XP has set for mice. So, why in hell don't they make a standard or
something? My mouse, no matter what mouse i use, always moves smoother at
60hz or 100 than it does at 70, 72, 75 or 85hz. And this affects some games
that do not code for it to compensate. I lose a bit of accuracy if i don't
play at 60 or 100hz, and right now i can't play at 100 because my monitor
burnt out on me. I'm using an old one that has a max 75. Playing at 60 gets
irritating on the eyes at times. Am i wrong about this, and is there a fix
out there somewhere for it?

What kind of video card do you have? You should be able to
define a custom refresh rate of 80Hz (to match a 80 sample/sec
mouse refresh) in most screen resolutions.

Also, if you run games in DirectX mode, and the games use DX
to control mouse movement, the Override option in DXDIAG
will help (Start/Run/DXDIAG/More Help/Override).
 
M

mike

What kind of video card do you have? You should be able to
define a custom refresh rate of 80Hz (to match a 80 sample/sec
mouse refresh) in most screen resolutions.

Also, if you run games in DirectX mode, and the games use DX
to control mouse movement, the Override option in DXDIAG
will help (Start/Run/DXDIAG/More Help/Override).

I have a stock 9700 Pro. I don't see where i can define a custom refresh
like 80hz. I have 5.8 drivers installed with ccc. I really don't like ccc...
I will try dxdiag and play with it
 
M

mike

What kind of video card do you have? You should be able to
define a custom refresh rate of 80Hz (to match a 80 sample/sec
mouse refresh) in most screen resolutions.

Also, if you run games in DirectX mode, and the games use DX
to control mouse movement, the Override option in DXDIAG
will help (Start/Run/DXDIAG/More Help/Override).

With Dxdiag, what are safe settings for refresh override? I don't want to
cause myself any major problems
 
J

Jeff G

mike said:
With Dxdiag, what are safe settings for refresh override? I don't want to
cause myself any major problems

80 or 85Hz is a good ballpark, unless you're running at
very high resolutions ( >1600x1200).
 
M

mike

Jeff G said:
80 or 85Hz is a good ballpark, unless you're running at
very high resolutions ( >1600x1200).


I was introduced to a great utility that works like a dream!(usbmrs11.exe).
I've been trying to find something simple like that for years. Even my old
logitech usb1.x mouse is as smooth as a mouse could get. I set it to 500hz,
and it was such a HUGE difference, i couldn't believe it. I don't even need
to try 1000. Smooth as could be mousing and sample rates now with desktop
and whatever game i play, with whatever mouse. I will remember these these
that you have mentioned however, about dxdiag and such, because i might need
to know about it at some point. Thanks
 

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