Motherboard replacements, any ideas?

[lenny]

ROFL! Here is a straightforward suggestion. Suicide is Painless, and
will end your confusion. Being willing to learn, and helping yourself is
much much harder than Suicide.

ROFL! ? Thank you. I think you have just proved my point.

 

[kurttrail]

ROFL! ? Thank you. I think you have just proved my point.

That you want to take the easy way out. Yes, I thought you couldn't be
anymore clear about your point.

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[Jonny]

Try not to compromise your wants and needs in PC building for yourself.
Shop wisely at the motherboard makers. Try to find comparisons if the
boards have been on the market for awhile. Use a few grains of salt when
reading opinions including my own. Opinions are written into comparisons,
and even sometimes, motherboard specs. Tweakability depends on the bios
which they rarely talk about at the spec level.

 

[Paul Knudsen]

Hi,
I am in Britain and I am looking to replace my motherboard and CPU and was
wondering if anybody had any recomendations. All thoughts considered.

I'm not a builder, but I suggest PC Magazine's Extreme Tech forum.
Lots of builders hang out there, and you'll find lots of hardware
recommendations.

Any thoughts and pointers about where to buy the equipment would be great.
At the moment I buy a lot of stuff from ebuyer, dabs and scan.

Here in the States Newegg.com is a popular source of all kinds of
parts. Perhaps there's a UK site or they'll export.

Cheers
Lenny

Cherrio and good luck.

 

[Jonny]

Sure is, if you know how to use it. Not only is their numerous reviews,
but there is the newsgroup archives of people posting problems with
hardware.


Just about. But remember, your post is definitely off-topic in the
group I post to.


And how do you know that they know anything about hardware. Maybe they
have the lamest computer, but don't know it. But again, your post is
off-topic.


It is useless if you are a lazy bastard wanting to get someone else to
make choices for you.

Choosing the CPU is central choice, and determines what kind of
motherboard you buy, which in turn will narrow down your RAM choices.

Nope. Wrong. Manufacturer allegiance and cost aside. The central basis
for self-builders is what they want out of the PC. This is determined by
the motherboard. The motherboard selected determines the cpu and ram
choices.

Yes, all is OT. So have I seen similar at this newsgroup using XP as their
OS an excuse/entry ticket for their post. Just wonder you why you jumped on
the OT bandwagon for this particular thread?

Many people use popular choices for their basis of their own choice. The OP
is just one of many that do thngs that way, not just their PC building.

And you narrow down that confusion with choosing what kind of CPU you
want to purchase.

There are general guidelines. He wanted specifics I'm sure. Gentler ways
of saying that.

Because I'm not gonna make decisions for you. If need o help yourself
if you want good advise. I tried to get you started, and show you where
to start, but you seem to be to lazy to help yourself, and make choices
for yourself.


You can't always get what you want.

Perhaps you'd be better off buying a computer from an OEM. Might I
suggest Alienware.

They produce a good, overpriced, flashy product. He wants to build his own,
I understand.

 

[kurttrail]

Nope. Wrong.
Really?

Manufacturer allegiance and cost aside. The central
basis for self-builders is what they want out of the PC. This is
determined by the motherboard. The motherboard selected determines
the cpu and ram choices.

LOL! I chose my CPU first, and video card first, then those choices
determined what type of Mobo I looked at, and once choosen, then I
bought RAM. Alternately, I guess one could choose a Mobo, that narrows
down the choices of the CPU, video card, and RAM. Neither way is right
or wrong, just one's preference.

Yes, all is OT. So have I seen similar at this newsgroup using XP as
their OS an excuse/entry ticket for their post. Just wonder you why
you jumped on the OT bandwagon for this particular thread?

Why not?

Many people use popular choices for their basis of their own choice.
The OP is just one of many that do thngs that way, not just their PC
building.

That's true, but I find the popular choices to usually be the wrong ones
for me.

There are general guidelines. He wanted specifics I'm sure. Gentler
ways of saying that.

You can't always get what you want, especially if you post off-topic to
a Newsgroup. And I believe in tough love teaching. No touchy-feely
molly-coddling for me!

They produce a good, overpriced, flashy product. He wants to build
his own, I understand.

Overpriced compared to the likes of Dell and such, but the components
are usually first rate unlike most major OEMs.

And there are MANY MANY websites devoted to building your own, but one
has to do a little searching to find them. Seems to me that the OP is
lazy, and wants to have his hand held.

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[Leythos]

LOL! I chose my CPU first, and video card first, then those choices
determined what type of Mobo I looked at, and once choosen, then I
bought RAM. Alternately, I guess one could choose a Mobo, that narrows
down the choices of the CPU, video card, and RAM. Neither way is right
or wrong, just one's preference.

I start with determining what I want the computer to do - what apps, how
fast I want them to run, how many at the same time, etc... Things like
RAID, Memory, Video performance, etc...

Then I pick a CPU and Chipset that give the first, then a motherboard
that supports the CPU/Chipset.

Don't forget the PSU, Fans, UPS, and your backup process.

 

[kurttrail]

I start with determining what I want the computer to do - what apps,
how fast I want them to run, how many at the same time, etc... Things
like RAID, Memory, Video performance, etc...

Then I pick a CPU and Chipset that give the first, then a motherboard
that supports the CPU/Chipset.

Don't forget the PSU, Fans, UPS, and your backup process.

Yeah so do I, and in this thread so has the OP, so there was no need to
tell him to do that.

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[Jonny]

LOL! I chose my CPU first, and video card first, then those choices
determined what type of Mobo I looked at, and once choosen, then I
bought RAM. Alternately, I guess one could choose a Mobo, that narrows
down the choices of the CPU, video card, and RAM. Neither way is right
or wrong, just one's preference.


Why not?


That's true, but I find the popular choices to usually be the wrong ones
for me.


You can't always get what you want, especially if you post off-topic to
a Newsgroup. And I believe in tough love teaching. No touchy-feely
molly-coddling for me!


Overpriced compared to the likes of Dell and such, but the components
are usually first rate unlike most major OEMs.

And there are MANY MANY websites devoted to building your own, but one
has to do a little searching to find them. Seems to me that the OP is
lazy, and wants to have his hand held.

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Yes, a number of handholders submit a help request to this newsgroup. This
OP just happens to be talking about building his own PC instead.
Followers, there's alot of followers out there. The OP is definitely not
the only one that frequents here, or submits a one time only post that fills
that category.
Believe what's bugging you the most is he isn't ready to fly on his own yet.
Some young birds won't leave the nest if you push alot. Some gentle nudging
is needed for these. Else they stay put. Some won't leave at all, lifetime
squabs. Wish you could accept that without verbal confrontation when they
refuse to fly on their own for your own internal good.

 

[lenny]

Yes, a number of handholders submit a help request to this newsgroup.
This
OP just happens to be talking about building his own PC instead.
Followers, there's alot of followers out there. The OP is definitely not
the only one that frequents here, or submits a one time only post that
fills
that category.
Believe what's bugging you the most is he isn't ready to fly on his own
yet.
Some young birds won't leave the nest if you push alot. Some gentle
nudging
is needed for these. Else they stay put. Some won't leave at all,
lifetime
squabs. Wish you could accept that without verbal confrontation when they
refuse to fly on their own for your own internal good.

I wasn't going to post again but what the hell.....

Jesus Christ! I only asked for some simple-advice! I wasn't expecting such a
tirade from a bunch of simple-tons. I have appologised for posting in the
wrong group but it seems to have brought plenty of joy to enough people who
love complaining about other, "not so geeky", posters as themselves anyway.
In fact check out Kurt's site http://microscum.com/mscommunity. Moan, moan,
moan, moan, f****ing moan.

I am very pleased with the response and advice given from Ted, Alias,
McCarty, Eric, Grim Reaper, Mike Hall, Ron Martell and Paul Knudsen, I
appreciated that and am taking it all in for my next purchase.

On the " submits a one time only post " point I would like to differ. I am
relatively new to these newsgroups but if I see a post that I can help with
I will be posting an answer straight away. Where I will not be posting
though is where I haven't got anything worth saying. Was it Laural or Hardy
who said "If you haven't got anything relevant to say then don't say
anything at all"....

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Cheers
Lenny

 

[lenny]

I forgot to mention Jonny in the group that posted interesting stuff. I
meant to so I apologise for that. Although you do go a bit of the road in
that last post your first one is full of help and advice without being
condescending which is actually all I asked for.
Cheers
Lenny

 

[kurttrail]

Yes, a number of handholders submit a help request to this newsgroup.
This OP just happens to be talking about building his own PC instead.
Followers, there's alot of followers out there. The OP is definitely
not the only one that frequents here, or submits a one time only post
that fills that category.
Believe what's bugging you the most is he isn't ready to fly on his
own yet. Some young birds won't leave the nest if you push alot.
Some gentle nudging is needed for these. Else they stay put. Some
won't leave at all, lifetime squabs. Wish you could accept that
without verbal confrontation when they refuse to fly on their own for
your own internal good.

I'm a firm believer in the swift kick in the ass method myself. They
may hate the kicker, but that usually either gets them flying or they go
splat!

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[kurttrail]

I wasn't going to post again but what the hell.....

Jesus Christ! I only asked for some simple-advice!

Which you got! Jesus H. Christ!

I wasn't expecting
such a tirade from a bunch of simple-tons.

Where was the tirade exactly? Your responses.

I have appologised for
posting in the wrong group but it seems to have brought plenty of joy
to enough people who love complaining about other, "not so geeky",
posters as themselves anyway. In fact check out Kurt's site
http://microscum.com/mscommunity. Moan, moan, moan, moan, f****ing
moan.

Where is the moaning exactly?

I am very pleased with the response and advice given from Ted, Alias,
McCarty, Eric, Grim Reaper, Mike Hall, Ron Martell and Paul Knudsen, I
appreciated that and am taking it all in for my next purchase.

On the " submits a one time only post " point I would like to differ.
I am relatively new to these newsgroups but if I see a post that I
can help with I will be posting an answer straight away. Where I will
not be posting though is where I haven't got anything worth saying.
Was it Laural or Hardy who said "If you haven't got anything relevant
to say then don't say anything at all"....


....Yes, that looks better.

Trolls change peoples sigs. And I always have something relative to
say. Not everyone is bright enough to see it though.

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[kurttrail]

I forgot to mention Jonny in the group that posted interesting stuff.
I meant to so I apologise for that. Although you do go a bit of the
road in that last post your first one is full of help and advice
without being condescending which is actually all I asked for.
Cheers

Liar. You never qualified that you wanted non-condescending help and
advice.

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[SC]

http://www.alienware.com/

The only OEM I would ever buy from, if I didn't build my own. And when I
build my own, I follow my own advise to the OP. First I choose what CPU I
want to use by doing research through Google . . . .

How about Falcon Northwest http://www.falcon-nw.com/. Its too bad they
don't sell those here. They are too cool. Their aftersales is legendary
and the tech guys are really good (I've heard). And on the top of the tops
in benchmarks. Not to mention their cabinets painted in Auto grade paint
etc. (http://www.falcon-nw.com/exotix-custom.asp)

http://www.falcon-nw.com/config/build.asp Who needs sex when you've got one
of those. But then if you do, it shows you have taste and the $$$$$, so
the former shouldn't be a problem.

 

[kurttrail]

How about Falcon Northwest http://www.falcon-nw.com/. Its too bad
they don't sell those here. They are too cool. Their aftersales is
legendary and the tech guys are really good (I've heard). And on the
top of the tops in benchmarks. Not to mention their cabinets painted
in Auto grade paint etc. (http://www.falcon-nw.com/exotix-custom.asp)

http://www.falcon-nw.com/config/build.asp Who needs sex when you've
got one of those. But then if you do, it shows you have taste and
the $$$$$, so the former shouldn't be a problem.

Still would need the real thing (sex), but they do look to be
high-quality computers.

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[SC]

I forgot. I should have directed you to a site with WPA or EULA BS. Your
enthusiasm lies elsewhere LOL

 

[kurttrail]

I forgot. I should have directed you to a site with WPA or EULA BS.
Your enthusiasm lies elsewhere LOL

As with any real man of my generation that hasn't sold their soul, sex,
drugs, and rock n' roll!

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