Microsoft Censorship PROVES it is a Corporate Scumbag!

[kurttrail]

http://microscum.com/censored/200602261226/

The above post was pulled from MS's Servers. MS has know since XP was
in Beta that their too many installations PA message is confusing and
misleading. That it is now 2006, and MS has yet to change that
message, is a clear indication that this is purposeful, as changing
the text of that message would be the easiest fix MS would ever have
to make. But nearly 5 years later, still the same misleading message.
If MS REALLY cared about its customers, that message would have been
changed long ago, but that nearly 5 years has passed with MS doing
absolutely NOTHING to change the message is pretty much proof that
this misleading message is totally purposeful on Microsoft's part.

Instead of censoring me for pointing this out, if MS wants to
demonstrate that what I'm saying isn't the whole story, then CHANGE
THE EFFIN' MESSAGE! By censoring me, MS is showing that they'd rather
hide from the truth, than do what is right for its customers!

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[RobertVA]

http://microscum.com/censored/200602261226/

The above post was pulled from MS's Servers. MS has know since XP was
in Beta that their too many installations PA message is confusing and
misleading. That it is now 2006, and MS has yet to change that
message, is a clear indication that this is purposeful, as changing
the text of that message would be the easiest fix MS would ever have
to make. But nearly 5 years later, still the same misleading message.
If MS REALLY cared about its customers, that message would have been
changed long ago, but that nearly 5 years has passed with MS doing
absolutely NOTHING to change the message is pretty much proof that
this misleading message is totally purposeful on Microsoft's part.

Instead of censoring me for pointing this out, if MS wants to
demonstrate that what I'm saying isn't the whole story, then CHANGE
THE EFFIN' MESSAGE! By censoring me, MS is showing that they'd rather
hide from the truth, than do what is right for its customers!

Why can't you provide a clear explanation of your complaint without
linking to a domain with a derogitory name?

Maybe the earlier messages were deleted because this site is operated by
Microsoft to be allow people to assist each other instead of an
oportunity merely complain. Some Usenet alt. or rec. group might be more
accomidateing to articles that are merely rants. If your ISP doesn't
offer a Usenet server, you can access them over the web through Google
Groups.

Is this about a product refuseing to activate over an internet
connection? If so, have you tried activating useing the toll free
telephone number? If you used the toll free number were the
representatives cooperative?

You are NOT enhancing your credabilty with the thinly disguised curseing
in your message. We could have easily understood that portion of your
displeasure with just "CHANGE THE MESSAGE!"

 

[Leythos]

Instead of censoring me for pointing this out, if MS wants to
demonstrate that what I'm saying isn't the whole story, then CHANGE
THE EFFIN' MESSAGE! By censoring me, MS is showing that they'd rather
hide from the truth, than do what is right for its customers!

Maybe others don't have a problem understanding simple terms that MS
uses in the message, no-one I know has any problem understanding it.

As for censoring, well, it is their server and if you post to non-MS
Usenet servers your message will still make it around the world - they
can filter content on their servers at their whim and you have nothing
to say about it. Some people need censored some times

 

[kurttrail]

Why can't you provide a clear explanation of your complaint without
linking to a domain with a derogitory name?

Why should I explain what people can see for themselves? And tough
sh*t if you don't like the domain name. If you think its derogitory,
then maybe you should have just moved on.

Maybe the earlier messages were deleted because this site is
operated
by Microsoft to be allow people to assist each other instead of an
oportunity merely complain.

Maybe then they would have pulled the entire thread then. I wasn't
complaining in the post that was pulled. I was answering another
person's question.

Some Usenet alt. or rec. group might be
more accomidateing to articles that are merely rants. If your ISP
doesn't offer a Usenet server, you can access them over the web
through Google Groups.

What does this have to do with anything, dickless?

Is this about a product refuseing to activate over an internet
connection?

It's about the PA message after that, moron.

If so, have you tried activating useing the toll free
telephone number?

Does the message clearly state to try phone activation? NO,
sh*t-for-brains!

If you used the toll free number were the
representatives cooperative?

If by co-opertive, you mean speak did they speak American English?
NO! MS has outsourced its PA phone center to India or Pakistan, or
some such south asian/Indian sub-continent nation

You are NOT enhancing your credabilty with the thinly disguised
curseing in your message.

Real men have no problems with so-called cursing. Only those that
believe in political correctness and/or religious fairy tails have
problems with it!

We could have easily understood that
portion of your displeasure with just "CHANGE THE MESSAGE!"

Blow me, weenie boy! ROFL!

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[Talahasee]

Why can't you provide a clear explanation of your complaint without
linking to a domain with a derogitory name?

Maybe the earlier messages were deleted because this site

This is not a "site". This is a newsgroup, part of the
usenet group, and SUPPOSEDLY public domain.

What you have just said is that in fact Microsoft somehow
moderates this group and thereby deletes any posts Microsoft
deems negative towards Microsoft.

I wonder if the FCC knows about that.




is operated by

 

[Talahasee]

Why can't you provide a clear explanation of your complaint without
linking to a domain with a derogitory name?

Maybe the earlier messages were deleted because this site is operated by
Microsoft to be allow people to assist each other instead of an
oportunity merely complain. Some Usenet alt. or rec. group might be more
accomidateing to articles that are merely rants. If your ISP doesn't
offer a Usenet server, you can access them over the web through Google
Groups.

Is this about a product refuseing to activate over an internet
connection? If so, have you tried activating useing the toll free
telephone number? If you used the toll free number were the
representatives cooperative?

You are NOT enhancing your credabilty with the thinly disguised curseing
in your message. We could have easily understood that portion of your
displeasure with just "CHANGE THE MESSAGE!"

I believe his point was that-- if Microsoft cared about its
customers (they don't)-- it's an EASY patch to make, and
this issue is likely one that MILLIONS of users have
complained about.

Having worked at Microsoft several times "on contract", I
can tell you first-hand that I was told to my face, in no
uncertain terms, the ONLY thing that Bill Gates cares about
is the money in your pocket, and how to transfer it from
YOUR pocket to Bill Gates' pocket.

 

[kurttrail]

Maybe others don't have a problem understanding simple terms that MS
uses in the message, no-one I know has any problem understanding it.

When the message emphatically states that the software has been
installed too many times, and activation is denied, and in reality XP
can be installed an unlimited amout of times, and MS knows this
statement is misleading for nearly five years, and has done nothing to
clarify it, then it is a purposeful LIE!

As for censoring, well, it is their server and if you post to non-MS
Usenet servers your message will still make it around the world -
they
can filter content on their servers at their whim and you have
nothing
to say about it.

This thread is my say on the matter, Lamegirl! Are you really that
dense as to think I have no say?! Justified Ridicule!

MS is a censor for the Chinese government too! MS is just a corporate
scumbag that really doesn't give a hoot about its customers.

Some people need censored some times

LOL! You fascist f*&ks do know how to stick together!

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[Leythos]

This is not a "site". This is a newsgroup, part of the
usenet group, and SUPPOSEDLY public domain.

What you have just said is that in fact Microsoft somehow
moderates this group and thereby deletes any posts Microsoft
deems negative towards Microsoft.

While Usenet is routed all over the world, the individual servers are
completely under control of the company/user running them. Cancel
messages may or may not be honored.

The FCC has nothing to do with Usenet.

Usenet is not PUBLIC DOMAIN.

As for MS or any other hosting provider can/can't do - if you don't like
what they do, post through another server and it may make it around the
world, just not on the MS servers.

 

[Leythos]

This thread is my say on the matter, Lamegirl! Are you really that
dense as to think I have no say?! Justified Ridicule!

You have the right to post anything you want, and the owner of the
service has the right to allow/disallow anything they want.

You know that MS filters based on Content and based on User identity, as
do many other Usenet providers.

If you want your message to get out to the masses, since the masses
don't actually use MS Servers, post it to a non-MS server and it will
spread around the world.

 

[kurttrail]

While Usenet is routed all over the world, the individual servers
are
completely under control of the company/user running them. Cancel
messages may or may not be honored.

The FCC has nothing to do with Usenet.

Usenet is not PUBLIC DOMAIN.

As for MS or any other hosting provider can/can't do - if you don't
like what they do, post through another server and it may make it
around the world, just not on the MS servers.

The retension of my censeored posts is much longer on my website than
on any USENET server. ;-)

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[kurttrail]

You have the right to post anything you want, and the owner of the
service has the right to allow/disallow anything they want.

And then I have the right to ridicule them, which is what this thread
is all about. Thanks for helping me out by responding to it! ;-)

You know that MS filters based on Content and based on User
identity,
as do many other Usenet providers.

Actually, I've never encounter any other group where I've been
censored. Only MS groups.

And the censored post was not filtered, it was pulled after it was
already on MS's server, and that was done by an actual person, not
some inhuman technology.

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/5a918d6e78c8e4de?hl=en&

As you can see, if you visit the link above, the message propagated to
other servers, like Google's.

If you want your message to get out to the masses, since the masses
don't actually use MS Servers, post it to a non-MS server and it
will
spread around the world.

One. It took them a while to pull it from their servers, so many
people got to see it before it was pulled, and it is still on servers
throughout the net.

Two. MS usually doesn't pull my links to the censored posts on my
website, so I have a nice little incomplete archive of posts that I've
noticed that have been censored by MS over the years at
http://microscum.com/censored/, and can be accessed from around the
world.

Three. It just goes to show how pointless it really is to censor me
to begin with. MS looks bad for pulling righteous criticism of its
policies, yet that censorship is an absolutely hollow gesture, because
I get my righteous criticism out to the world anyway, even on MS's
servers! MS is just cutting off its nose to spite its face by
censoring me.

Whether or not MS has the right to pull any post it wants from its
servers for any reason it wants, most people that really believe in
free speech see censorship as wrong, especially when it is the
organization being criticized that is doing the censoring.

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[Leythos]

Whether or not MS has the right to pull any post it wants from its
servers for any reason it wants, most people that really believe in
free speech see censorship as wrong, especially when it is the
organization being criticized that is doing the censoring.

If they decide to delete your posts, or mine, or anyone's, it's not
censorship, as you can still post your thoughts in public and no one is
stopping you. The MS Servers are owned by MS and open to the public
under the rules/considerations that MS dictates of their own desire -
nothing public has anything to do with MS.

Censorship would be if your posts were deleted from public servers or by
the government, or if MS issued cancel messages to other servers outside
of the MS domain.

I run several message boards for nonprofit groups, and the restrictions
are clear and also include a rule that ANYTHING the admin wants to
remove is permitted, that's not censorship, as they are free to post
anywhere else they want.

 

[kurttrail]

If they decide to delete your posts, or mine, or anyone's, it's not
censorship, as you can still post your thoughts in public and no one
is stopping you. The MS Servers are owned by MS and open to the
public
under the rules/considerations that MS dictates of their own
desire -
nothing public has anything to do with MS.

Sure it is censorship. MS removed what it didn't want others to read
without the authors permission. Its not illegal censorship, but it is
censorship.

Censorship would be if your posts were deleted from public servers
or
by the government, or if MS issued cancel messages to other servers
outside of the MS domain.

That is but one type of censorship, Lamegirl.

I run several message boards for nonprofit groups, and the
restrictions are clear and also include a rule that ANYTHING the
admin wants to remove is permitted, that's not censorship, as they
are free to post anywhere else they want.

Sure it is censorship. It's just not illegal censorship, though
depending on the circumstance, it may be immoral censorship, like when
a corporation pulls righteous criticism of it off a so-called PUBLIC
newsgroup!

That MS has yet fix that totally misleading PA message, after nearly
five years, is criminal fraud, in my book. MS is a corporate scumbag.
The Enron of the Software Industry. Nothing but a corporate
conartist.

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[Infosink]

kurttrail wrote:

The only thing it proves is that Microsoft is keeping its newsgroups from
degrading into the mean rude and obscene mess that some of the alt windows
xp newgroups have become.

 

[RobertVA]

RobertVA wrote:




Why should I explain what people can see for themselves? And tough
sh*t if you don't like the domain name. If you think its derogitory,
then maybe you should have just moved on.




Maybe then they would have pulled the entire thread then. I wasn't
complaining in the post that was pulled. I was answering another
person's question.




What does this have to do with anything, dickless?




It's about the PA message after that, moron.




Does the message clearly state to try phone activation? NO,
sh*t-for-brains!




If by co-opertive, you mean speak did they speak American English?
NO! MS has outsourced its PA phone center to India or Pakistan, or
some such south asian/Indian sub-continent nation




Real men have no problems with so-called cursing. Only those that
believe in political correctness and/or religious fairy tails have
problems with it!




Blow me, weenie boy! ROFL!

(Dons fireproof briefs)

I don't have to act like a jerk when I complain about things.

Your posting style and rant site domain name are are more reflections of
your immaturity than offensive. I'll give you credit for not lieing down
on the floor and holding your breath though. I know PLENTY of blue
language, but I just don't need it. People listen BETTER when it's not
present.

You should be aware that courts have ordered the cancelation of domain
name registrations that so closely resemble trademarked names. I think
that's going just a bit too far, but I'm not the one holding the gavel.
Posting links on the trademark owner's forums probably increases the
probablility that the similarity will be brought to their counsel's
attention, although they probably periodicaly perform searches for that
variation anyway. It wouldn't suprise me if "your" domain name has been
taken from a few previous owners already. I can't imagine their cease
and desist letter containing language resebleing yours.

I'm no fan of product activation or obscure error messages either. EVERY
time someone needs telephone activation it costs Microsoft for overseas
phone charges and labor costs (even though at low overseas wage rates).
All the questions here about how to get past that message don't help
them either.

There's a lot of other Windows features that make me wonder "What were
they thinking!?". They are bound to incorporate a few more ideas in each
version of Windows that were previously available in Linux and Macintosh
operating systems though.

And if ALL of Internet Explorer and or Windows Media Player are removed,
as some governments have suggested, I suspect some features of Windows
Explorer and the help functions of a lot of applications will be disabled.

Add numerous stockholders and the need to preserve the company's
intelectual property rights (like copyrights, trademarks and technology
licenses from other companies) to Microsoft's motivations. While Mr
Gates probably owns a BIG block of Microsoft stock, I would be suprised
if he owns more than a few dozen percent of the shares. Read the list of
stocks held by a mutual fund sometimes. A LOT of mutual funds own
Microsoft shares. There's a good probability your parents, grandparents
or neighbors own a little bit of Microsoft through a mutual fund. Money
isn't everything, but it's sure handy when you want a loaf of bread at
the supermarket!

 

[kurttrail]

(Dons fireproof briefs)

I don't have to act like a jerk when I complain about things.

Who is complaining? I'm ridiculing MS.

Your posting style and rant site domain name are are more
reflections
of your immaturity than offensive.

LOL! It depends on how you look at it. I'm sure YOU see it as
immature. Most people that have problems with cursing tend to think
it is immature. To me, it is those that have problems with cursing
that have the maturity problem. They have yet to learn that words
can't hurt you, unless you let them.

I'll give you credit for not
lieing down on the floor and holding your breath though. I know
PLENTY of blue language, but I just don't need it. People listen
BETTER when it's not present.

No. You listen better.

You should be aware that courts have ordered the cancelation of
domain
name registrations that so closely resemble trademarked names.

LOL! I won't be holding my breath!

I think
that's going just a bit too far, but I'm not the one holding the
gavel.

Then you pay someone to beat your head with the gavel?

Posting links on the trademark owner's forums probably
increases the probablility that the similarity will be brought to
their counsel's attention, although they probably periodicaly
perform
searches for that variation anyway. It wouldn't suprise me if "your"
domain name has been taken from a few previous owners already. I
can't imagine their cease and desist letter containing language
resebleing yours.

ROFL! Let them try. I dare them!

I'm no fan of product activation or obscure error messages either.
EVERY time someone needs telephone activation it costs Microsoft for
overseas phone charges and labor costs (even though at low overseas
wage rates). All the questions here about how to get past that
message don't help them either.

LOL! Empathizing with a soul-less corporation! I think I hear a very
miniscule violin playing in the background of your po' ol' Microsoft
story!

There's a lot of other Windows features that make me wonder "What
were
they thinking!?". They are bound to incorporate a few more ideas in
each version of Windows that were previously available in Linux and
Macintosh operating systems though.

And if ALL of Internet Explorer and or Windows Media Player are
removed, as some governments have suggested, I suspect some features
of Windows Explorer and the help functions of a lot of applications
will be disabled.

LOL! Of course they could make a file management system and help
system that wasn't dependent on any web browser at all, if they were
required to remove IE. And we already know what the removal of WMP
has broken. Nothing at all.

Add numerous stockholders and the need to preserve the company's
intelectual property rights (like copyrights, trademarks and
technology licenses from other companies) to Microsoft's
motivations.

Too funny! You do realize that the piracy rate was steadily going
down every year until MS introduced its PA copy-protection to the
masses, don't you? And do you realize, that since then, the piracy
rate has stopped dropping?

So if you add up the costs of PA, in terms of infrastructure costs,
and the costs of customer dissatifaction, then it would be in a MS's
stockholder's best interest to get rid of copy-protection.

While Mr Gates probably owns a BIG block of Microsoft stock, I would
be
suprised if he owns more than a few dozen percent of the shares.
Read
the list of stocks held by a mutual fund sometimes. A LOT of mutual
funds own Microsoft shares. There's a good probability your parents,
grandparents or neighbors own a little bit of Microsoft through a
mutual fund. Money isn't everything, but it's sure handy when you
want a loaf of bread at the supermarket!

Work for it. I have NO SYMPATHY for those that try to make money off
of money, but then lose money in the stock market! Just like I have
no sympathy for those that lose money due to gambling.

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[kurttrail]

kurttrail wrote:

The only thing it proves is that Microsoft is keeping its newsgroups
from degrading into the mean rude and obscene mess that some of the
alt windows xp newgroups have become.

Really? What exactly was "rude and obscene" in the post of mine that
was pulled?

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[Infosink]

My point exactly.

 

[kurttrail]

My point exactly.

The word "gonorrhea" is meant to define a particular type of sexually
transmitted disease. It is neither a rude comment or an obscene one.
And it is in every post I send to this group, yet not every post of mine
is pulled from MS's servers, so that is a very unlikely reason to pull
my post about MS deliberately trying to con people into buying copies of
XP that they don't really need.

Try again!

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[Infosink]

Disease is off topic so why should they post it then? Anyway, your
juxtapositioning of the word sets the tone and sets you up for them nixing
your post which they have every right to do on their own servers. Keep it
clean, reasonably respectful and make it truthful and I doubt your posts
will get censored much anywhere in the U.S. or Canada. If you really have a
point you have to make then in the U.S. there's a free press and you are
free to publish. Microsoft is not obliged to carry your discussion of
transmitted diseases.