Looking at Pixma iP5200 - how much mileage from cartridges?

B

BD

Hey, all.

I'm considering a Canon Pixma iP5200 printer. It would be used
_exclusively_ for photos.

I'm curious as to how many full-color prints I can expect to get from a
set of cartridges. Obviously, some will empty sooner than others - but
on average, is there an expected number of prints I can expect from
this guy?

Anyone have one? Reviews are excellent...
 
M

measekite

BD said:
Hey, all.

I'm considering a Canon Pixma iP5200 printer. It would be used
_exclusively_ for photos.

I'm curious as to how many full-color prints I can expect to get from a
set of cartridges. Obviously, some will empty sooner than others - but
on average, is there an expected number of prints I can expect from
this guy?

Anyone have one? Reviews are excellent...
well for sure i can tell you this. you will get many more photos that
are 2x2 than 8x10. you will also get many more photos if the
background is white as opposed to flowers.
 
B

BD

well for sure i can tell you this. you will get many more photos that
are 2x2 than 8x10. you will also get many more photos if the
background is white as opposed to flowers.

F*ck me, you are a helpful little t*t, aren't you! ;-)
 
Z

zakezuke

BD said:
Hey, all.

I'm considering a Canon Pixma iP5200 printer. It would be used
_exclusively_ for photos.

I'm curious as to how many full-color prints I can expect to get from a
set of cartridges. Obviously, some will empty sooner than others - but
on average, is there an expected number of prints I can expect from
this guy?

Anyone have one? Reviews are excellent...

I got one, haven't had a chance to use it much, been lazy about
reordering ink.

The yields are similar to the older series, which I believe for photos
at 5% yield is 280 on 8x11.5. So photos at 50% yield would be 28p @
8x.11.5. 75. I've heard as high as 150p to 175p using 4x6, so i'd rank
28p as being a conservative estimate.
 
Z

zakezuke

so i'd rank 28p as being a conservative estimate.
Yuck. Oh well. Good to know. Thanks!

That's not too bad at 50% yield. I know i've done 35 DVD covers in a
setting on the ip4000, colorful ones too, before running out of
magenta. I "imagine" 40 would be liberal, 28 conservative.
 
M

Mikey

Another thing you may want to consider is how much mileage you get from a
set of heads, if your going to print that much.

I have heard as little as TEN cartridge changes. Seems low to me.

Although I would never give up my canon IP4000 Love it, although I should
have opted for the 5000



Mikey
 
M

Michael Johnson, PE

Mikey said:
Another thing you may want to consider is how much mileage you get from a
set of heads, if your going to print that much.

I have heard as little as TEN cartridge changes. Seems low to me.

I think that is too low. We have several Canon printers that have gone
well beyond 10 cartridge swaps and the print heads are just fine. They
are typically rated for 18,000 pages of various types of print. Plus a
new print head for the five cartridge printers isn't too expensive. I
bought an extra one for the MP780/iP4000 to have handy for an emergency
spare and paid about $60 for it. About the cost of one set of OEM
cartridges.
 
Z

zakezuke

I think that is too low. We have several Canon printers that have gone
well beyond 10 cartridge swaps and the print heads are just fine. They
are typically rated for 18,000 pages of various types of print.

They "are" rated for 18,000 pages of various types of print
------
18,000 pages
Black 1,500 character pattern 7,200 pages
Color A4, 7.5% duty per color pattern 5,400 pages
A4, photo, borderless printing 300 pages
4 x 6, photo, borderless printing 3,600 pages
Postcard, photo, borderless printing 1,500 pages
*BCI-3eBK: 740 pages (1,500 character pattern, plain paper / standard
mode)
----- ip4000 service manual

Assuming 740 per cartridge and assuming 7,200 pages max life, that's
9.729 cartridges.

Doing the math on the color, which i'm to lazy at the moment, works out
to be about 10 cartridges as well.

Now, you can definatly get more than 10 cartridges changes from a given
head. That's not a problem. But the offical product life is 10
cartridge changes for both the head and the printer.
Plus a new print head for the five cartridge printers isn't too expensive.

Yes, assuming $80 for the head, and assuming 10 cartridge changes,
that's an extra $1.60 per tank, less if you use more cartridges.
 
M

Michael Johnson, PE

zakezuke said:
They "are" rated for 18,000 pages of various types of print
------
18,000 pages
Black 1,500 character pattern 7,200 pages
Color A4, 7.5% duty per color pattern 5,400 pages
A4, photo, borderless printing 300 pages
4 x 6, photo, borderless printing 3,600 pages
Postcard, photo, borderless printing 1,500 pages
*BCI-3eBK: 740 pages (1,500 character pattern, plain paper / standard
mode)
----- ip4000 service manual

Assuming 740 per cartridge and assuming 7,200 pages max life, that's
9.729 cartridges.

Doing the math on the color, which i'm to lazy at the moment, works out
to be about 10 cartridges as well.

Now, you can definatly get more than 10 cartridges changes from a given
head. That's not a problem. But the offical product life is 10
cartridge changes for both the head and the printer.

The MP780 I have used for the last year has seen more than ten cartridge
swaps per color. Especially the BCI-3blk. Plus anything I print with
color is very intensive. The entire page is covered (DVD jackets,
Autocad renderings etc.) nearly 100% so my pages per cartridge use is
fairly low. I'm sure the head will go one day which is why the spare is
sitting on the shelf.
Yes, assuming $80 for the head, and assuming 10 cartridge changes,
that's an extra $1.60 per tank, less if you use more cartridges.

When the head dies in my MP780 I won't feel I didn't get my monies
worrth out of it. I dread the day the one in my N2000 goes.
Replacement heads for those printers are running about $500 but they are
rated for 50,000 prints.
 
Z

zakezuke

The MP780 I have used for the last year has seen more than ten cartridge
swaps per color. Especially the BCI-3blk. Plus anything I print with
color is very intensive. The entire page is covered (DVD jackets,
Autocad renderings etc.) nearly 100% so my pages per cartridge use is
fairly low. I'm sure the head will go one day which is why the spare is
sitting on the shelf.

I'm not saying it's not possible to get more than 10 cartridge changes
per head. All I am saying the documentation states a lifespan which is
limited to about 10 cartridge changes. Now beyond 10 I believe to be
common, and I believe 15 to 20 is not unusual at all.

I think I'm at about 10 on my ip3000, not exactly sure on my mp760.
 
M

measekite

if one uses canon ink
The MP780 I have used for the last year has seen more than ten
cartridge swaps per color. Especially the BCI-3blk. Plus anything I
print with color is very intensive. The entire page is covered (DVD
jackets, Autocad renderings etc.) nearly 100% so my pages per
cartridge use is fairly low. I'm sure the head will go one day which
is why the spare is sitting on the shelf.

of course. a backup for when it clogs.
 
M

Martin

zakezuke said:
I'm not saying it's not possible to get more than 10 cartridge changes
per head. All I am saying the documentation states a lifespan which is
limited to about 10 cartridge changes. Now beyond 10 I believe to be
common, and I believe 15 to 20 is not unusual at all.

I think I'm at about 10 on my ip3000, not exactly sure on my mp760.

Much as I hate giving the troll ammunition I've managed to kill 2
printheads for the MP740/iP4000 and my suspicion is that the MIS Canon
ink reacted badly with the non-oem cheapo ink that I had in a set of
compatibles.. I'm blaming the cheapo ink for the clog but it really did
a number on the pigment BCI-3bk part of the head with a solid black
chalk like clog..
 
M

measekite

Martin said:
Much as I hate giving the troll ammunition I've managed to kill 2
printheads for the MP740/iP4000 and my suspicion is that the

MIS Canon ink reacted badly


that is what i have been tryung to tell everyone. you got what you
deserve for not listening. if others listen to what i have been saying
they will save money over the long haul.
with the non-oem cheapo ink that I had in a set of compatibles.. I'm
blaming the cheapo ink for the clog but it really did a number on the
pigment BCI-3bk part of the head with a solid black chalk like clog..

you do not know who to blame because your relabelers do not want you to
know what you bought. think about it. if a couple of major
mfg/formulaters (like sensinent) sold prefilled carts under their own
name via all of the venues then their performance could be reported in a
variety of was and people would eventually find out if it was any good.
 

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments. After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.

Ask a Question

Top