Linux Live CDs reviewed (stay away if possible, if you are a Windows user)

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bbgruff

Look up MD5SUM. Linux Mint gives it to you on the download web page. Now
you need to learn how to use it. Try Wikipedia or Google and enlighten
yourself.

Good advice, but quite useless.
You are dealing with RayLopez99 - he won't take in a word of it.

(AFAICT, his Mint CD was OK, btw - it's Webconverger he's complaining about)
 
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RayLopez99

Look up MD5SUM. Linux Mint gives it to you on the download web page. Now
you need to learn how to use it. Try Wikipedia or Google and enlighten
yourself.


STupidity. Are you saying I downloaded the wrong file? Not likely.

RL

md5sum is a computer program that calculates and verifies 128-bit MD5
hashes, as described in RFC 1321. The MD5 hash (or checksum) functions
as a compact digital fingerprint of a file. It is extremely unlikely
that any two non-identical files existing in the real world will have
the same MD5 hash (although as with all such hashing algorithms, there
are an unlimited number of files that will have any given MD5 hash).
Because almost any change to a file will cause its MD5 hash to also
change, the MD5 hash is commonly used to verify the integrity of files
(i.e., to verify that a file has not changed as a result of file
transfer, disk error, meddling, etc.). The md5sum program is installed
by default in most Unix, Linux, and Unix-like operating systems or
compatibility layers. BSD variants (including Mac OS X) have a similar
utility called md5. Versions for Microsoft Windows do exist (see
external links
 
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glee

STupidity. Are you saying I downloaded the wrong file? Not likely.

RL

md5sum is a computer program that calculates and verifies 128-bit MD5
hashes, as described in RFC 1321. The MD5 hash (or checksum) functions
as a compact digital fingerprint of a file. It is extremely unlikely
that any two non-identical files existing in the real world will have
the same MD5 hash (although as with all such hashing algorithms, there
are an unlimited number of files that will have any given MD5 hash).
Because almost any change to a file will cause its MD5 hash to also
change, the MD5 hash is commonly used to verify the integrity of files
(i.e., to verify that a file has not changed as a result of file
transfer, disk error, meddling, etc.). The md5sum program is installed
by default in most Unix, Linux, and Unix-like operating systems or
compatibility layers. BSD variants (including Mac OS X) have a similar
utility called md5. Versions for Microsoft Windows do exist (see
external links

Amazing....you actually looked it up and copied it here, but apparently
didn't read it, or else you just don't understand what you read.
Try reading again what you just posted here: "...the MD5 hash is
commonly used to verify the integrity of files (i.e., to verify that a
file has not changed as a result of file transfer, disk error, meddling,
etc.)."
 
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Norman Peelman

RayLopez99 said:
STupidity. Are you saying I downloaded the wrong file? Not likely.

RL

md5sum is a computer program that calculates and verifies 128-bit MD5
hashes, as described in RFC 1321. The MD5 hash (or checksum) functions
as a compact digital fingerprint of a file. It is extremely unlikely
that any two non-identical files existing in the real world will have
the same MD5 hash (although as with all such hashing algorithms, there
are an unlimited number of files that will have any given MD5 hash).
Because almost any change to a file will cause its MD5 hash to also
change, the MD5 hash is commonly used to verify the integrity of files
(i.e., to verify that a file has not changed as a result of file
transfer, disk error, meddling, etc.). The md5sum program is installed
by default in most Unix, Linux, and Unix-like operating systems or
compatibility layers. BSD variants (including Mac OS X) have a similar
utility called md5. Versions for Microsoft Windows do exist (see
external links

I see you are still working on your reading comprehension...
 
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Nico Kadel-Garcia

glee said:
TomB said:
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
On 2010-11-28, the following emerged from the brain of glee:
4) This *could* be a coincidence, or maybe not: this morning I got
the very rare (but it has happened before, years ago) "CHKDSK"
error on bootup of XP on my Pentium IV. After about 10 minutes of
checking, and verifying everything is OK, it allowed me to boot
into Windows and here I am. Was this because of something the
Linux Live CDs did? I did not install any of them. If it was from
the Linux CDs, it was from either Ubuntu or WEbconverger, not from
Mint Live CD which I have been trying out all week with no
problems.
One possibility:  on one of the distros, maybe it was Ubuntu, I did
not log out properly:  I simply pulled out the CD and did a hard
reboot with the power switch.  I bet that these Linux Live CD
distros secretly write stuff temporarily to your hard drive (just
making a wild guess here), and if you don't shut down properly, you
hard drive is somewhat corrupted with this temporary data.  Just a
guess.
Live CD's do not write anything to the hard drive, and removing one
because it won't finish logging out, and doing a shutdown/restart
from the computer power switch is harmless in that situation.  If
Chkdsk autoran at Windows boot, it would be due to an unrelated file
system issue in Windows.
That's not entirely true. Mounted file systems can get marked 'dirty'
on powering off the system. So the above can happen.
(Resending with cross-posting restored.
I'm not sure why you set follow-up to just the one group.  I and others
are not subscribed to that group, and will not see any replies because
of your action.  The cross-posting was only 3 groups, not excessive, and
there's no reason to remove it mid-thread.)

Let me answer that : one person who hasn't got a clue how usenet works
has decreed that cross posting to unsuscribed groups is evil. And in
true ng fashion everyone came screaming in to agree with him without
thinking it out. They seem immune to the fact that this is what cross
posting is FOR.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I know quite a lot about Usenet. (Look me up in the old Spam wars.)
The crossposting to generally unrelated groups is excessive, and the
post shouldd have a relevant "Followup-To". Ray's consistent refusal
to follow this, and his insistence on endlessly playing "Why Don't You
- Yes, But" dominance games clutters useful groups.
 
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RayLopez99

. Ray's consistent refusal
to follow this, and his insistence on endlessly playing "Why Don't You
- Yes, But" dominance games clutters useful groups.

What the hell is a "Why Don't You - Yes, But" dominance game?

Sounds like some shit you learn in social sciences class.

RL
 
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Alias

What the hell is a "Why Don't You - Yes, But" dominance game?

Sounds like some shit you learn in social sciences class.

RL

You're a few oars short of a life boat, chum.
 
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Alias

Notice how the Wintroll "Hadron" casually throws-in a *lie* about
"everyone" agreeing with someone about cross-posting and follow-ups.

"Hadron" can't just weigh-in with his opinion, he has to attack people
using lies.

And what do you do, attack people with the truth?
 
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RayLopez99

Notice how the Wintroll "Hadron" casually throws-in a *lie* about
"everyone" agreeing with someone about cross-posting and follow-ups.

"Hadron" can't just weigh-in with his opinion, he has to attack people
using lies.

Why are you so obsessed with Hadron? Why not just killfile him like
you claim you have me?

RL
 
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TomB

Let me answer that : one person who hasn't got a clue how usenet
works has decreed that cross posting to unsuscribed groups is evil.
And in true ng fashion everyone came screaming in to agree with him
without thinking it out. They seem immune to the fact that this is
what cross posting is FOR.

When slrn advices me to set a follow-up header on cross-posts, I
gladly accept that advice. If either of you thinks that this is wrong,
please direct your complains to the author of slrn.
 
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glee

TomB said:
When slrn advices me to set a follow-up header on cross-posts, I
gladly accept that advice. If either of you thinks that this is wrong,
please direct your complains to the author of slrn.

Your newsreader client software advises you on how to post?! OK
then.....
Cross-posting is done for many reasons in different ways....sometimes
for no good reason, other times because it is useful and helpful. There
is no ONE blanket answer for how to reply....but always setting a single
group for follow up is almost always wrong. Far better to look at the
cross-posting and the thread, then base the decision on the situation
and common sense....rather than on rote adherence to some arbitrary rule
set by some client software.
 

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