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floppybootstomp

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A couple of months after upgrading my main computer I thought I’d add a sound card. None of the cards I already owned were suitable as they were all PCI whereas I needed a PCI-E version.

On browsing I realised there wasn’t much choice nowadays it was basically Asus or Creative. As I hadn’t used a Creative card for some time I thought I’d try one just for a change. I settled on a mid-range OEM version, a Soundblaster Z which currently costs £50 at OCUK.

Installed it with Win 10 and it was an improvement on the onboard sound, sounded very good to my ears. I use the digital out from the soundcard to a DAC which feeds a MiTube Fatman Valve amplifier and pair of Ariston media loudspeakers.

Life went on for a couple of months and I started getting a yearning to Dual boot with Linux on my new machine. As I’d received a free Kingston 240Gb SSD hard disk with my new video card I had a spare Crucial 250Gb SSD HDD so I thought that would do for Linux Mint, latest version is V18 and I went for Cinnamon 64 Bit.

I fitted a caddy to my computer which can swap 3.5” HDD’s in and out so I had Windows 10 on the Kingston SSD and Mint 18 on the Crucial SSD. To accommodate the SSD’s so they’d fit my new caddy I had to buy a couple of 2.5” to 3.5” HDD converters (see pics).

I installed Linux 18 which was stress free and went perfectly well except for one thing – I had no sound. Linux was recognising the Soundblaster Z but whatever setting I put the soundcard on it would not work. Checking Creative’s website I noticed no Linux drivers were available.

A Google revealed there were a lot off cheesed off Linux/Creative users on this planet as it seemed Creative don’t provide any support for Linux whatsoever. So I rattled off a none too complimentary email to Creative urging them to sort out some Linux drivers and they promised a reply ‘within 48 hours’.

96 hours later Creative sent me a return email stating they don’t support Linux operating systems. Ya don’t say. Crappy useless bunch of idiots (I’m restraining myself here).

So I removed the Creative soundcard, bought a cheap Asus Xonar DGX PCI-E soundcard (£24) and this Asus card works perfectly with both Windows 10 and Linux 18. So that’s it for me, for the rest of my life a complete veto of Creative products.

I am fair-minded enough, however, to admit the Soundblaster Z had the edge on the Asus Xonar DGX, as reflected by the price, probably, but I am being a bit nit-picky.

I’m considering the more expensive Asus card (£125) which is meant to be ‘audiophile’ quality and also has a co-ax digital output which is rare, most cards usually have optical output. This is a desirable feature.

One would think with the gain in popularity of Linux over the past decade Creative might have made a little effort to expand their customer base but no, still living in the dark ages.

The caddy mounted in my computer case:

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A converter case:

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muckshifter

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err, I 'banned' Creative in 1995 ... Philips had far better sound solution. :)
 

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Yeah Creative suck hard in the driver stakes. I had to use the 'Daniel K' modded drivers with my sound card to get them working when I first upgraded to 10 as Creative didn't have the drivers ready at launch....

If I were buying now it would either be an Asus card or an external DAC and forgo a sound card all together. :)
 

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One would think with the gain in popularity of Linux over the past decade Creative might have made a little effort to expand their customer base but no, still living in the dark ages.

Well you'd think so wouldn't you?! Eejits :rolleyes:

Glad to hear the Asus card is working out though, but shame about the sound quality.
 

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I've got the same caddy and converter as you Flops :).

I had some long running driver problems with a Creative sound card (long forgotten the model), it turned out that a long running series of BSODs in XP were down to their drivers. I can barely remember getting a BSOD in years now.

If I were buying now it would either be an Asus card or an external DAC and forgo a sound card all together. :)

How would the DAC work? Can you skip the sound card altogether and get a PC based DAC instead?
 

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Ah yes, that was the other one I've seen mentioned a few times, both get very positive praise.

Tbh I'm still reading up on whats what, but it seems like a good direction to go in. :)
 

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