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I'm an SE, but still need clarification on one aspect of licensing. Let's
say you have a client that had an older workstation running Windows 2000 Pro.
You upgraded the system 12 months ago by buying the retail version of XP
Pro. The older system finally crashes, and is scrapped. The client
meanwhile, purchases new system which comes pre-installed with XP Home.

Does licensing allow you to upgrade the new system with XP Pro considering
the retail copy that was purchased is no longer in use? I suggested it does
not and my client is a bit bent on having to purchase a new license.
 
Paul said:
I'm an SE, but still need clarification on one aspect of licensing.
Let's
say you have a client that had an older workstation running Windows 2000
Pro.
You upgraded the system 12 months ago by buying the retail version of XP
Pro. The older system finally crashes, and is scrapped. The client
meanwhile, purchases new system which comes pre-installed with XP Home.

Does licensing allow you to upgrade the new system with XP Pro considering
the retail copy that was purchased is no longer in use? I suggested it
does
not and my client is a bit bent on having to purchase a new license.
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No need to buy a new licence. Retail versions can be reinstalled on another
computer if the first computer either dies or if you remove XP from it
first.

Read the EULA for confirmation.

Alias
 
I'm not sure about re-using the XP Pro retail copy...You would have to use
the same Product Key...? Have you tried it? Instead of going out and
buying a new copy, you can use the same CD with a new product key...at a
little cheaper price than buying a new retail copy. Just go to
http://shop.microsoft.com/special/wal/walinfo.asp
and follow the instructions to get a new product key.

Hope this helps...
 
I understand that the EULA allows you to transfer the XP Pro copy to another
workstation if you completely uninstall it from the original. However, the
XP Home NFR version on the new PC suggests that it cannot be legally
upgraded. I suppose I can be in compliance completely removing XP Home and
doing a complete install of XP Pro. There are quite a few OEM
customizations and third party apps (emachine) that would make it a pain,
however.
 
Is that retail XP you have, a FULL or an UPGRADE version? If a FULL,
then the "original" installed operating system is immaterial.
 
Paul said:
I'm an SE, but still need clarification on one aspect of licensing.
Let's say you have a client that had an older workstation running
Windows 2000 Pro. You upgraded the system 12 months ago by buying the
retail version of XP Pro. The older system finally crashes, and is
scrapped. The client meanwhile, purchases new system which comes
pre-installed with XP Home.

Does licensing allow you to upgrade the new system with XP Pro
considering the retail copy that was purchased is no longer in use?
I suggested it does not and my client is a bit bent on having to
purchase a new license.
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And he should be bent by your ignorant answer. Retail XP can be moved
to another computer as long as it was removed from the previous one,
even by MS's convoluted interpretation of its EULA.

Does "SE" stand for "Stupid Eunuch?"

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That is indeed the question. It's an upgrade. Therefore - is it indeed
"true" that licensing prevents you from upgrading and OEM NFR version of XP
Pro. Or...do I need to flatten the box and install a "full" version.
 
You would need to look at that "NFR" EULA and see if it is disallowed to
be "upgraded" from. If it is not qualifying license then NO it wouldn't
be legal. We volunteers don't give any thing that could be called legal
advice, so you will need to check further if concerned about
interpretation. There is the try it and see if it works avenue, but
YMMV. :-)
 
Thanks.

I'm going to stick with my original plan and tell my client he has to
purchase a new "full" licenses version. I'll then buy the full version, but
try to upgrade via the upgrade media regardless. If I don't get tied up with
license key issues and it upgrades without a problem, I'll file the full
version I purchased for compliance reasons. I would suggest at that point, I
would have reasonably met MS's license compliance without having to flatten
the system.
 
Paul said:
Thanks.

I'm going to stick with my original plan and tell my client he has to
purchase a new "full" licenses version. I'll then buy the full
version, but try to upgrade via the upgrade media regardless. If I
don't get tied up with license key issues and it upgrades without a
problem, I'll file the full version I purchased for compliance
reasons. I would suggest at that point, I would have reasonably met
MS's license compliance without having to flatten the system.
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http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/eula.mspx

You are a total scumbag if you tell the OP to buy another license that
he/she doesn't need, even according to MS!

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Seems like a reasonable path.
Thanks.

I'm going to stick with my original plan and tell my client he has to
purchase a new "full" licenses version. I'll then buy the full version, but
try to upgrade via the upgrade media regardless. If I don't get tied up with
license key issues and it upgrades without a problem, I'll file the full
version I purchased for compliance reasons. I would suggest at that point, I
would have reasonably met MS's license compliance without having to flatten
the system.

:
Click to expand...
 
Yes, you may use the same retail upgrade version of Windows XP Pro
to upgrade the new Windows XP Edition PC.

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| I'm an SE, but still need clarification on one aspect of licensing. Let's
| say you have a client that had an older workstation running Windows 2000 Pro.
| You upgraded the system 12 months ago by buying the retail version of XP
| Pro. The older system finally crashes, and is scrapped. The client
| meanwhile, purchases new system which comes pre-installed with XP Home.
|
| Does licensing allow you to upgrade the new system with XP Pro considering
| the retail copy that was purchased is no longer in use? I suggested it does
| not and my client is a bit bent on having to purchase a new license.
 
Hey, it's easy to start cheating on licensing by justification. But I'll be
damned if I risk my certs and my business for the price of one full retail
license that isn't even coming out of my pocket. If OEM NFR versiion cannot
be tranferred, sold, alterred or upgraded, then so be it. The system cost
the client $399.
 
Bob said:
Seems like a reasonable path.
Click to expand...

Only if you can't read the effin' EULA, and you a conman conning people
to get more money for MS.

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Carey said:
Yes, you may use the same retail upgrade version of Windows XP Pro
to upgrade the new Windows XP Edition PC.
Click to expand...

OMG! Shoot me. I've seen everything now!

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Paul said:
That is indeed the question. It's an upgrade. Therefore - is it indeed
"true" that licensing prevents you from upgrading and OEM NFR version of XP
Pro. Or...do I need to flatten the box and install a "full" version.
Click to expand...

There is nothing in the standard OEM EULA that prevents you from
upgrading. Only Academic Versions are ineligable for upgrades, as I recall.

Steve
 
Paul said:
Hey, it's easy to start cheating on licensing by justification. But
I'll be damned if I risk my certs and my business for the price of
one full retail license that isn't even coming out of my pocket. If
OEM NFR versiion cannot be tranferred, sold, alterred or upgraded,
then so be it. The system cost the client $399.
Click to expand...

You said it was a retail upgrade that was being moved. Read the EULA,
it allows transfers.

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