License key for home network

G

Guest

Two weeks ago I purchased XP Professional Upgrade ( from Win98)and have
installed and activated on my machine. I installed on my wife's machine
today. So now I am being told that I need to buy another license at the same
price I paid less the cost of the CD... just for her. Wow,that is an
expensive alternative. I understand the problem with piracy but gimme a
break. Two licenses for a home network of two machines. Is this the only
way that I can have XP on both machines?
 
L

Leythos

I understand the problem with piracy but gimme a
break. Two licenses for a home network of two machines. Is this the only
way that I can have XP on both machines?

You had two licenses for your 98 install, or you were suppose too. It's
the same with most software, one install per license - MS is not alone in
this restriction.
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

Yes, one license, one computer.
The way it has always been with Microsoft consumer operating systems since
at least Windows 95.
If you want Windows XP on two computers, you need to buy another.
It does not matter if the computers are home or business, networked or not.
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

If you have two vehicles, can you use just one registration?
When you take your wife out to dinner, do you pay for her meal,
or is it buy one - get one free?

Windows XP requires an individual license (Product Key) for
each installation on a different computer. Therefore, you w­ill
need to purchase a new license for each additional installat­ion
of Windows XP. However, you can use the same Windows XP
CD to install with a new Product Key.

In case you overlooked it:

On the back of the Windows XP box, please read the statement­:

"For installation and use on one computer"
(see License Agreement for license terms).

Go to Start >Run box type: WINVER , and hit enter. Then c­lick on the
"End-User License Agreement" and read it. Your answer
lies in that agreement.

You can also open XP's "Help and Support" and type: EULA
and hit enter. Click on "Questions and answers about the EU­LA".

How to obtain additional licenses for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;814175&Product=winxp

How To Change the Product Key at the Time of Activation
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;810892&Product=winxp

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

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Failing to read the Windows XP licensing agreement,
:

| Two weeks ago I purchased XP Professional Upgrade ( from Win98)and have
| installed and activated on my machine. I installed on my wife's machine
| today. So now I am being told that I need to buy another license at the same
| price I paid less the cost of the CD... just for her. Wow,that is an
| expensive alternative. I understand the problem with piracy but gimme a
| break. Two licenses for a home network of two machines. Is this the only
| way that I can have XP on both machines?
 
A

Alias

| Two weeks ago I purchased XP Professional Upgrade ( from Win98)and have
| installed and activated on my machine. I installed on my wife's machine
| today. So now I am being told that I need to buy another license at the
same
| price I paid less the cost of the CD... just for her. Wow,that is an
| expensive alternative. I understand the problem with piracy but gimme a
| break. Two licenses for a home network of two machines. Is this the only
| way that I can have XP on both machines?

Welcome to the MS licence scam. Cute, isn't it? Normally, it would be
referred to as a con game but MS has too much money so they get away with
it. When you forked over your money, you bought a permission to use, not
ownership of, the software. This type of scam is especially profitable if
you have a monopoly.
 
P

Pop

Alias wrote:
....
Welcome to the MS licence scam. Cute, isn't it? Normally, it
would be
referred to as a con game but MS has too much money so they get
away
with it. When you forked over your money, you bought a
permission to
use, not ownership of, the software. This type of scam is
especially
profitable if you have a monopoly.

Awww, poor baby wetting its pants 'cause it can't violate the
license agreement anymore. You're committing a crime punishable
by fines and/or imprisonment. Kindly post here your real email
address at home and your address/phone please? I'll get in touch
with a remedy asap. I guarantee you it will be a sound solution
to your problem.
 
A

Alias

| Alias wrote:
| ...
| > Welcome to the MS licence scam. Cute, isn't it? Normally, it
| > would be
| > referred to as a con game but MS has too much money so they get
| > away
| > with it. When you forked over your money, you bought a
| > permission to
| > use, not ownership of, the software. This type of scam is
| > especially
| > profitable if you have a monopoly.
|
| Awww, poor baby wetting its pants 'cause it can't violate the
| license agreement anymore.

Um, I have never violated the licence agreement. I have used and paid for
Win 3.11, Win 95, Win 98, Win 98SE, Win Me, W2K and I currently have -- and
paid for, one XP Pro in Spanish, one in English and an XP Home in Spanish. I
do, however, obviously have an opinion about it.

| You're committing a crime punishable
| by fines and/or imprisonment.

Bullshit. Copyright infringement is a civil case, moron, not a criminal
case.

| Kindly post here your real email
| address at home and your address/phone please? I'll get in touch
| with a remedy asap. I guarantee you it will be a sound solution
| to your problem.

My email is in the headers but please refrain from emailing me as I have no
desire to get an email from someone who obviously doesn't know what he's
talking about.
 
A

Alias

| So what happens if I don't get another key for the second install?

It won't activate unless it's been over 120 days since you activated it on
the other computer but doing that is against MS' rules but has not been
established in a court of law as illegal.
--
Alias

Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
|
| "Alias" wrote:
|
| >
| >
| > | Two weeks ago I purchased XP Professional Upgrade ( from Win98)and
have
| > | installed and activated on my machine. I installed on my wife's
machine
| > | today. So now I am being told that I need to buy another license at
the
| > same
| > | price I paid less the cost of the CD... just for her. Wow,that is an
| > | expensive alternative. I understand the problem with piracy but gimme
a
| > | break. Two licenses for a home network of two machines. Is this the
only
| > | way that I can have XP on both machines?
| >
| > Welcome to the MS licence scam. Cute, isn't it? Normally, it would be
| > referred to as a con game but MS has too much money so they get away
with
| > it. When you forked over your money, you bought a permission to use, not
| > ownership of, the software. This type of scam is especially profitable
if
| > you have a monopoly.
| > --
| > Alias
| >
| > Use the Reply to Sender feature of your news reader program to email me.
| > Utiliza Responder al Remitente para mandarme un mail.
| >
| >
| >
 
V

Vagabond Software

Alias said:
| Two weeks ago I purchased XP Professional Upgrade ( from Win98)and have
| installed and activated on my machine. I installed on my wife's machine
| today. So now I am being told that I need to buy another license at the
same
| price I paid less the cost of the CD... just for her. Wow,that is an
| expensive alternative. I understand the problem with piracy but gimme a
| break. Two licenses for a home network of two machines. Is this the only
| way that I can have XP on both machines?

Welcome to the MS licence scam. Cute, isn't it? Normally, it would be
referred to as a con game but MS has too much money so they get away with
it. When you forked over your money, you bought a permission to use, not
ownership of, the software. This type of scam is especially profitable if
you have a monopoly.
--

Are you new to computers and software? What company permits multiple users to install the same commercial software on multiple machines for simultaneous use without requiring additional licenses?

I can't think of any.

carl
 
A

Alias

Alias said:
| Two weeks ago I purchased XP Professional Upgrade ( from Win98)and have
| installed and activated on my machine. I installed on my wife's machine
| today. So now I am being told that I need to buy another license at the
same
| price I paid less the cost of the CD... just for her. Wow,that is an
| expensive alternative. I understand the problem with piracy but gimme a
| break. Two licenses for a home network of two machines. Is this the
only
| way that I can have XP on both machines?

Welcome to the MS licence scam. Cute, isn't it? Normally, it would be
referred to as a con game but MS has too much money so they get away with
it. When you forked over your money, you bought a permission to use, not
ownership of, the software. This type of scam is especially profitable if
you have a monopoly.
--

Are you new to computers and software? What company permits multiple users
to install the same commercial software on multiple machines for
simultaneous use without requiring additional licenses?

I can't think of any.

carl <<<<<<

The fact that other companies followed MS example doesn't make it not a
scam. That's like saying it's OK to commit murder because your brother
killed someone. No, I am not new to computers and am well aware of the scam
and have been for years.
 
T

Tom

Carey Frisch said:
Windows XP requires an individual license (Product Key) for
each installation on a different computer.

Well, I have seen you post (as well as Mike Brannigan ad nauseam, possibly for concern with his profit sharing with MS), that *any* installation has to have a separate license, even if it is on the same PC more than once, and not just another physical PC.
 
W

Will Hoenig

You could:
A. Pay for the Windows XP upgrade
B. NOT RECOMMENDED Illegally get a product key off the internet, and hope
that it doesn't have to be activated (Some Product Keys Don't). If you do it
this way, you have a good chance that Microsoft will file a lawsuit and you
will have to pay a lot more that the upgrade costs.
C. Buy the OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) version of XP. This is how
the manufactures get XP, and it is a lot cheaper than the regular version.
 
V

Vagabond Software

Alias said:
Are you new to computers and software? What company permits multiple users
to install the same commercial software on multiple machines for
simultaneous use without requiring additional licenses?

I can't think of any.

carl <<<<<<

The fact that other companies followed MS example doesn't make it not a
scam. That's like saying it's OK to commit murder because your brother
killed someone. No, I am not new to computers and am well aware of the scam
and have been for years.
--

You've got the cart before the horse. Who set the tone in Operating System licensing, IBM and Apple or Microsoft? You are correct in that IBM and Apple, despite being in the game long before Microsoft, have made moves towards Microsoft's more lenient licensing. However, IBM is far from reformed, but at least they'll allow you to "lease" a license for OS/2 Warp for an entire year now, rather than by the month.

Who set the tone for licensing of productivity software? Lotus and WordPerfect or Microsoft? Again, Microsoft has the more forgiving license by permitting a single Office license to be applied to an installation on a Desktop and a Laptop for the same user (or at least they did in the past).

And as far as Volume Licensing goes, Microsoft beats them all, hands down. Microsoft offers "flex" volume licensing. In other words, you could purchase 15 flex license points, and use those to license an OS and Office for five users, perhaps Project for two users, Frontpage for two users, and Visio for one user. It's pretty darn good for small businesses and startups that tend to grow and morph.

carl
 
M

Mike Hall

Tom

If you were to set up a small local company producing a product available on
CD, you would hope to sell more than one.. by your credo, some other
enterprising soul could copy your CD, in the process steal your product,
give it away for the price of a cd-r plus expenses, which would essentially
wash your effort, cost and time setting up, and your expertise clean into
the ocean.. bye bye Tom.. well maybe not bye bye just yet.. lets wait till
Tom the sucker produces something else.. we could make a nice bit of cash on
the side again while becoming local heroes for freedom..

Did I hear you mutter 'not in my back yard, you won't'?..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/user








Windows XP requires an individual license (Product Key) for
each installation on a different computer.

Well, I have seen you post (as well as Mike Brannigan ad nauseam, possibly
for concern with his profit sharing with MS), that *any* installation has to
have a separate license, even if it is on the same PC more than once, and
not just another physical PC.
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

Microsoft plans severe restrictions on security updates
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6868504/

This page explains the importance of validating your Windows installation,
and the benefits of using only genuine Microsoft software.
http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/whyvalidate.aspx

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

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"Sleepless in Seattle" dishonestly wrote:

| Try http://www.mscracksandvirusescom/cracks/W9.php
|
| N.B. Watch out for the trojans.
|
| --
| Jonah
 
L

Leythos

The only way MS has to figure out that it has been installed on more
than one computer is if you tell them. Just go through the activation
wizard again, choose the phone option to activate it, and if you are
asked why you have to reactivate, just tell them that you just upgraded
components of the same computer it was originally installed on.

MS just wants more money than it deserves. Don't give it to them!

And just maybe (as has been with SP1) when he does the next service pack
or major update it won't install on the older activation. What are you
going to tell him then?
 
K

kurttrail

quadd said:
Two weeks ago I purchased XP Professional Upgrade ( from Win98)and
have installed and activated on my machine. I installed on my wife's
machine today. So now I am being told that I need to buy another
license at the same price I paid less the cost of the CD... just for
her. Wow,that is an expensive alternative. I understand the problem
with piracy but gimme a break. Two licenses for a home network of
two machines. Is this the only way that I can have XP on both
machines?

The only way MS has to figure out that it has been installed on more
than one computer is if you tell them. Just go through the activation
wizard again, choose the phone option to activate it, and if you are
asked why you have to reactivate, just tell them that you just upgraded
components of the same computer it was originally installed on.

MS just wants more money than it deserves. Don't give it to them!

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

"MS just wants more money than it deserves. Don't give it to them!"
Not for you to decide at all.
All you can decide is if you are willing to pay the asking price or not.

Very nice of you to suggest ways for people to violate the EULA they have
already agreed.
When I do not approve of a price, I do without or go elsewhere.
You on the other hand suggest violating agreements.

What do you do when someone cheats you or violates an agreement with you?
Encourage them as you do here?
Or do you defend your property and become a hypocrite?
 

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