Kodak 5300 print problems

[Ron Baird]

Greetings Art,

Sorry I did not get back to you sooner, I did not intentionally ignore you.
I simply do not have the information, Art, as it is proprietary data and not
available. If anything is ever released in this regard, I will assuredly
share it with you and others here.

I suspect that the science used by Kodak and the time it took to create the
technologies of these new printers was of considerable cost and, as you
might expect, has a lot of intellectual value.

Talk to you soon, Art,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company

 

[measekite]

Ron Baird wrote:

Hi Greg, I believe that the ink goes into a holding area and likely dries or is simply collected there. Leaving your printer off and the heads parked is a good idea and will preserve the ink as best you can over time. Infrequent use, however, can require cleaning the head etc. and so will take some ink for that function. Personally, I leave the Epson and a Kodak when I have it with me, on all the time. The truth will set you free. I always the what I know and Kodak did not offer a printer for some time. So, I bought an Epson which I like. Does a great job on Kodak paper as well. But, when I save my pennies, I will likely buy a Kodak as it will save me money in the long run.


Now ask yourself how this Kodak guy will buy an Epson printer and do public relations for Kodak.  Besides he probably either gets a discount or the ink for free.


Glad that the issue cleared itself up. Let me know if you have any issues or if you think I can help. Ron Baird Eastman Kodak Company "Greg Cisko" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...



Ron, Thanks much for the reply. I keep the printer off when I do not use it. That way I figured the print heads would be "parked" (and therefore sealed) and would not dry out. So I figured it should not matter how long it is unused. Deep cleaning did eventually fix everything, but it sucked up on black and one color cartridge. Where did the ink go?it has to go somewhere. Deep cleaning does not involve printing, yet it is using some ink . The ink has to go somewhere. BTW, very brave of you to mention you do not have a Kodak printer at home -- [email protected] "Ron Baird" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...



Greetings Greg, I can appreciate your frustration. I am taking your experience back to the engineers I know so they are aware of your situation. They appreciate feedback like this. Actually, this condition might arise you may do not use your printer on a regular basis. Personally, it has been my experience that if you do not print often but leave the printer on when not in use, it will go through a general startup process when you boot up your computer. Generally, when you do, many do this every day, the printer will prepare itself for printing in case you want to use it. If you do not print anything, however, or let it sit idle without power, you have a greater chance of needing to clean the head. I suspect this is something that might happen to other printers as well. I know that with a couple of previous printers that I have had, i.e. an Epson R200, and other Epsons, in the past that this happened to me from time to time. The heads cleared but it cost me the expense of doing the cleaning. I know it can get expensive. Anyway, what I did was create a brief document that had all the colors and black text then saved it as a file that I keep handy. The amount of ink used is small. I make a print of it each week if I do not print some other document. If I do make this print, I then flip over the paper and print the same document on the other side to save paper. Doing this keeps my printer ready for action. If you supply power to the printer, this may not happen as often. I do not have a Kodak printer at home but I am sure this process would work as well. Talk to you soon, Greg, Ron Baird Eastman Kodak Company "the-changling" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...



I love this printer when it works. But I do not print constantly. The printer can be turned off for maybe a month or more. But when I need it I need it. I had no problems over the years with my old Canon Bubblejet 4300. But they do not make ink anymore so I got rid of it and got the Kodak 5300. After a month off I tried printing and it was very poor text. After calling their tech support, they sent a new print head and ink. Printer was working flawlessly once again! Now after an extended time turned off it is acting like a clogged print head again. I called tech support again. They told me to keep deep cleaning until the quality was good. They did not know how many that would be. But that was the best they can do. Is this normal for this printer? I am thinking it is. Thanks in advance. -- [email protected]

 

[measekite]

Ron Baird wrote:

Hi Art, I have a friend that worked in the designing of the inks and the chemistry used. Although I am not a chemist, I suspect that Kodak is working on such technology as I know they spent a considerable amount of money creating inks that can yield the results they are getting. As you know, it is quite hard to get ink to work in low picoliter distribution and stay soluble.


Canon does not seem to have a problem.


My friend shared some of this with me, but I had no idea what he was talking about. He moved on down south and the chemistry he does now is mixing a drink after playing golf. I can say, however, that those like him here at Kodak truly know their stuff. Expect great things.


It makes sense that HP, Epson and Canon know their stuff better since they have been at it 10 times longer.


Talk to you soon Art, Ron Baird Eastman Kodak Company "Arthur Entlich" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:2Afoi.132674$xq1.42987@pd7urf1no...



Hi Ron, Your answer is not unreasonable in the light of the issues with inkjet printers, but it is disappointing that it appears no one can design a printer using pigmented inks, especially one with semi-permanent or permanent inks, which will stay unclogged. As I mentioned in another posting, the Epson Ultrachromes come closest, but they resolve this by using a high glycol formulation which gases off the glycol for weeks or months and is very slow to "dry" (the output is touch dry on output from the printer, but it isn't really). I did hope Kodak had overcome this in the head design or ink formulation. If the only solution is a test printout or similar answer, why not make it part of the printer firmware and be done with it, and be upfront about it. Art Ron Baird wrote:



Greetings Greg, I can appreciate your frustration. I am taking your experience back to the engineers I know so they are aware of your situation. They appreciate feedback like this. Actually, this condition might arise you may do not use your printer on a regular basis. Personally, it has been my experience that if you do not print often but leave the printer on when not in use, it will go through a general startup process when you boot up your computer. Generally, when you do, many do this every day, the printer will prepare itself for printing in case you want to use it. If you do not print anything, however, or let it sit idle without power, you have a greater chance of needing to clean the head. I suspect this is something that might happen to other printers as well. I know that with a couple of previous printers that I have had, i.e. an Epson R200, and other Epsons, in the past that this happened to me from time to time. The heads cleared but it cost me the expense of doing the cleaning. I know it can get expensive. Anyway, what I did was create a brief document that had all the colors and black text then saved it as a file that I keep handy. The amount of ink used is small. I make a print of it each week if I do not print some other document. If I do make this print, I then flip over the paper and print the same document on the other side to save paper. Doing this keeps my printer ready for action. If you supply power to the printer, this may not happen as often. I do not have a Kodak printer at home but I am sure this process would work as well. Talk to you soon, Greg, Ron Baird Eastman Kodak Company "the-changling" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...



I love this printer when it works. But I do not print constantly. The printer can be turned off for maybe a month or more. But when I need it I need it. I had no problems over the years with my old Canon Bubblejet 4300. But they do not make ink anymore so I got rid of it and got the Kodak 5300. After a month off I tried printing and it was very poor text. After calling their tech support, they sent a new print head and ink. Printer was working flawlessly once again! Now after an extended time turned off it is acting like a clogged print head again. I called tech support again. They told me to keep deep cleaning until the quality was good. They did not know how many that would be. But that was the best they can do. Is this normal for this printer? I am thinking it is. Thanks in advance. -- [email protected]

 

[Frank]

measekite wrote:

Now ask yourself how this Kodak guy will buy an Epson printer and do
public relations for Kodak. Besides he probably either gets a discount
or the ink for free.

Ask yourself these questions:
Have you ever been committed into a mental institution?
If you answer no...then you need to be immediately committed.
If you answer yes, then you need to return immediately as it is very
apparent you're very mentally ill.
Frank

 

[Ron Baird]

Hi Mease,

No Kodak employees get anything for free. Used to get some film in the past, but that has long gone. Kodak people share in their efforts and we all pay. We are a very cohesive group, and are dedictated to success. The people here are extremely hard working and do what is necessary. You have a misconception of our company. As I noted in another post, expect great things.

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company


Ron Baird wrote:
Hi Greg,

I believe that the ink goes into a holding area and likely dries or is
simply collected there. Leaving your printer off and the heads parked is a
good idea and will preserve the ink as best you can over time. Infrequent
use, however, can require cleaning the head etc. and so will take some ink
for that function. Personally, I leave the Epson and a Kodak when I have it
with me, on all the time.

The truth will set you free. I always the what I know and Kodak did not
offer a printer for some time. So, I bought an Epson which I like. Does a
great job on Kodak paper as well. But, when I save my pennies, I will likely
buy a Kodak as it will save me money in the long run.

Now ask yourself how this Kodak guy will buy an Epson printer and do public relations for Kodak. Besides he probably either gets a discount or the ink for free.

Glad that the issue cleared itself up. Let me know if you have any issues or
if you think I can help.

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company




Ron,

Thanks much for the reply. I keep the printer off when I do not
use it. That way I figured the print heads would be "parked" (and
therefore sealed) and would not dry out. So I figured it should
not matter how long it is unused. Deep cleaning did eventually
fix everything, but it sucked up on black and one color cartridge.
Where did the ink go?it has to go somewhere. Deep cleaning does
not involve printing, yet it is using some ink . The ink has to go
somewhere.

BTW, very brave of you to mention you do not have a Kodak
printer at home

--

(e-mail address removed)

Greetings Greg,

I can appreciate your frustration. I am taking your experience back to
the engineers I know so they are aware of your situation. They appreciate
feedback like this.

Actually, this condition might arise you may do not use your printer on a
regular basis. Personally, it has been my experience that if you do not
print often but leave the printer on when not in use, it will go through
a general startup process when you boot up your computer. Generally, when
you do, many do this every day, the printer will prepare itself for
printing in case you want to use it. If you do not print anything,
however, or let it sit idle without power, you have a greater chance of
needing to clean the head. I suspect this is something that might happen
to other printers as well. I know that with a couple of previous printers
that I have had, i.e. an Epson R200, and other Epsons, in the past that
this happened to me from time to time. The heads cleared but it cost me
the expense of doing the cleaning. I know it can get expensive.

Anyway, what I did was create a brief document that had all the colors
and black text then saved it as a file that I keep handy. The amount of
ink used is small. I make a print of it each week if I do not print some
other document. If I do make this print, I then flip over the paper and
print the same document on the other side to save paper. Doing this keeps
my printer ready for action. If you supply power to the printer, this may
not happen as often. I do not have a Kodak printer at home but I am sure
this process would work as well.

Talk to you soon, Greg,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company





I love this printer when it works. But I do not print constantly. The
printer can be turned off for maybe a month or more. But when I need
it I need it. I had no problems over the years with my old Canon
Bubblejet 4300. But they do not make ink anymore so I got rid of it
and got the Kodak 5300. After a month off I tried printing and it was
very poor text. After calling their tech support, they sent a new
print head and ink. Printer was working flawlessly once again! Now
after an extended time turned off it is acting like a clogged print
head again. I called tech support again. They told me to keep deep
cleaning until the quality was good. They did not know how many that
would be. But that was the best they can do.

Is this normal for this printer? I am thinking it is.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Ron Baird]

Mease,

Kodak has been in the inkjet business since the early 80's selling printers and media. Diconix

Talk to you soon,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company



Ron Baird wrote:
Hi Art,

I have a friend that worked in the designing of the inks and the chemistry
used. Although I am not a chemist, I suspect that Kodak is working on such
technology as I know they spent a considerable amount of money creating inks
that can yield the results they are getting.

As you know, it is quite hard to get ink to work in low picoliter
distribution and stay soluble.
Canon does not seem to have a problem.

My friend shared some of this with me, but I
had no idea what he was talking about. He moved on down south and the
chemistry he does now is mixing a drink after playing golf.

I can say, however, that those like him here at Kodak truly know their
stuff. Expect great things.

It makes sense that HP, Epson and Canon know their stuff better since they have been at it 10 times longer.

Talk to you soon Art,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company




Hi Ron,

Your answer is not unreasonable in the light of the issues with inkjet
printers, but it is disappointing that it appears no one can design a
printer using pigmented inks, especially one with semi-permanent or
permanent inks, which will stay unclogged. As I mentioned in another
posting, the Epson Ultrachromes come closest, but they resolve this by
using a high glycol formulation which gases off the glycol for weeks or
months and is very slow to "dry" (the output is touch dry on output from
the printer, but it isn't really).

I did hope Kodak had overcome this in the head design or ink formulation.
If the only solution is a test printout or similar answer, why not make it
part of the printer firmware and be done with it, and be upfront about it.

Art

Ron Baird wrote:

Greetings Greg,

I can appreciate your frustration. I am taking your experience back to
the engineers I know so they are aware of your situation. They appreciate
feedback like this.

Actually, this condition might arise you may do not use your printer on a
regular basis. Personally, it has been my experience that if you do not
print often but leave the printer on when not in use, it will go through
a general startup process when you boot up your computer. Generally, when
you do, many do this every day, the printer will prepare itself for
printing in case you want to use it. If you do not print anything,
however, or let it sit idle without power, you have a greater chance of
needing to clean the head. I suspect this is something that might happen
to other printers as well. I know that with a couple of previous printers
that I have had, i.e. an Epson R200, and other Epsons, in the past that
this happened to me from time to time. The heads cleared but it cost me
the expense of doing the cleaning. I know it can get expensive.

Anyway, what I did was create a brief document that had all the colors
and black text then saved it as a file that I keep handy. The amount of
ink used is small. I make a print of it each week if I do not print some
other document. If I do make this print, I then flip over the paper and
print the same document on the other side to save paper. Doing this keeps
my printer ready for action. If you supply power to the printer, this may
not happen as often. I do not have a Kodak printer at home but I am sure
this process would work as well.

Talk to you soon, Greg,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company






I love this printer when it works. But I do not print constantly. The
printer can be turned off for maybe a month or more. But when I need
it I need it. I had no problems over the years with my old Canon
Bubblejet 4300. But they do not make ink anymore so I got rid of it
and got the Kodak 5300. After a month off I tried printing and it was
very poor text. After calling their tech support, they sent a new
print head and ink. Printer was working flawlessly once again! Now
after an extended time turned off it is acting like a clogged print
head again. I called tech support again. They told me to keep deep
cleaning until the quality was good. They did not know how many that
would be. But that was the best they can do.

Is this normal for this printer? I am thinking it is.

Thanks in advance.

 

[measekite]

Ron Baird wrote:

Mease,



 



Kodak has been in the inkjet business since the early 80's selling printers and media.  Diconix



 



Talk to you soon,



 



Ron Baird



Eastman Kodak Company


The first consumer inkjet (HP Deskjet 500) came out in the 90's or late 80's.  The laserjet 1 came out in the early 80's.  I think Kodak was blowing smoke.  Kodak made good film and paper and lousey cameras like the brownie that could not compete with Nikon, Canon, Miranda, Prackika, Mamimya, Bronica, Zeiss, Leica, contax, Monolta, Konica and even the American Argus C3.


 



"measekite" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...



Ron Baird wrote:

Hi Art, I have a friend that worked in the designing of the inks and the chemistry used. Although I am not a chemist, I suspect that Kodak is working on such technology as I know they spent a considerable amount of money creating inks that can yield the results they are getting. As you know, it is quite hard to get ink to work in low picoliter distribution and stay soluble.


Canon does not seem to have a problem.


My friend shared some of this with me, but I had no idea what he was talking about. He moved on down south and the chemistry he does now is mixing a drink after playing golf. I can say, however, that those like him here at Kodak truly know their stuff. Expect great things.


It makes sense that HP, Epson and Canon know their stuff better since they have been at it 10 times longer.


Talk to you soon Art, Ron Baird Eastman Kodak Company "Arthur Entlich" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:2Afoi.132674$xq1.42987@pd7urf1no...



Hi Ron, Your answer is not unreasonable in the light of the issues with inkjet printers, but it is disappointing that it appears no one can design a printer using pigmented inks, especially one with semi-permanent or permanent inks, which will stay unclogged. As I mentioned in another posting, the Epson Ultrachromes come closest, but they resolve this by using a high glycol formulation which gases off the glycol for weeks or months and is very slow to "dry" (the output is touch dry on output from the printer, but it isn't really). I did hope Kodak had overcome this in the head design or ink formulation. If the only solution is a test printout or similar answer, why not make it part of the printer firmware and be done with it, and be upfront about it. Art Ron Baird wrote:



Greetings Greg, I can appreciate your frustration. I am taking your experience back to the engineers I know so they are aware of your situation. They appreciate feedback like this. Actually, this condition might arise you may do not use your printer on a regular basis. Personally, it has been my experience that if you do not print often but leave the printer on when not in use, it will go through a general startup process when you boot up your computer. Generally, when you do, many do this every day, the printer will prepare itself for printing in case you want to use it. If you do not print anything, however, or let it sit idle without power, you have a greater chance of needing to clean the head. I suspect this is something that might happen to other printers as well. I know that with a couple of previous printers that I have had, i.e. an Epson R200, and other Epsons, in the past that this happened to me from time to time. The heads cleared but it cost me the expense of doing the cleaning. I know it can get expensive. Anyway, what I did was create a brief document that had all the colors and black text then saved it as a file that I keep handy. The amount of ink used is small. I make a print of it each week if I do not print some other document. If I do make this print, I then flip over the paper and print the same document on the other side to save paper. Doing this keeps my printer ready for action. If you supply power to the printer, this may not happen as often. I do not have a Kodak printer at home but I am sure this process would work as well. Talk to you soon, Greg, Ron Baird Eastman Kodak Company "the-changling" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...



I love this printer when it works. But I do not print constantly. The printer can be turned off for maybe a month or more. But when I need it I need it. I had no problems over the years with my old Canon Bubblejet 4300. But they do not make ink anymore so I got rid of it and got the Kodak 5300. After a month off I tried printing and it was very poor text. After calling their tech support, they sent a new print head and ink. Printer was working flawlessly once again! Now after an extended time turned off it is acting like a clogged print head again. I called tech support again. They told me to keep deep cleaning until the quality was good. They did not know how many that would be. But that was the best they can do. Is this normal for this printer? I am thinking it is. Thanks in advance. -- [email protected]

 

[ilovefrankhobbicolor]

avoid clogs head, stop the leaking, and make it last 5 times longer.

Get a laser.


loving laser....

 

[Ron Baird]

They all copied Kodak - We started making them in 1884


Ron Baird wrote:
Mease,

Kodak has been in the inkjet business since the early 80's selling printers and media. Diconix

Talk to you soon,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company

The first consumer inkjet (HP Deskjet 500) came out in the 90's or late 80's. The laserjet 1 came out in the early 80's. I think Kodak was blowing smoke. Kodak made good film and paper and lousey cameras like the brownie that could not compete with Nikon, Canon, Miranda, Prackika, Mamimya, Bronica, Zeiss, Leica, contax, Monolta, Konica and even the American Argus C3.




Ron Baird wrote:
Hi Art,

I have a friend that worked in the designing of the inks and the chemistry
used. Although I am not a chemist, I suspect that Kodak is working on such
technology as I know they spent a considerable amount of money creating inks
that can yield the results they are getting.

As you know, it is quite hard to get ink to work in low picoliter
distribution and stay soluble.
Canon does not seem to have a problem.

My friend shared some of this with me, but I
had no idea what he was talking about. He moved on down south and the
chemistry he does now is mixing a drink after playing golf.

I can say, however, that those like him here at Kodak truly know their
stuff. Expect great things.

It makes sense that HP, Epson and Canon know their stuff better since they have been at it 10 times longer.

Talk to you soon Art,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company




Hi Ron,

Your answer is not unreasonable in the light of the issues with inkjet
printers, but it is disappointing that it appears no one can design a
printer using pigmented inks, especially one with semi-permanent or
permanent inks, which will stay unclogged. As I mentioned in another
posting, the Epson Ultrachromes come closest, but they resolve this by
using a high glycol formulation which gases off the glycol for weeks or
months and is very slow to "dry" (the output is touch dry on output from
the printer, but it isn't really).

I did hope Kodak had overcome this in the head design or ink formulation.
If the only solution is a test printout or similar answer, why not make it
part of the printer firmware and be done with it, and be upfront about it.

Art

Ron Baird wrote:

Greetings Greg,

I can appreciate your frustration. I am taking your experience back to
the engineers I know so they are aware of your situation. They appreciate
feedback like this.

Actually, this condition might arise you may do not use your printer on a
regular basis. Personally, it has been my experience that if you do not
print often but leave the printer on when not in use, it will go through
a general startup process when you boot up your computer. Generally, when
you do, many do this every day, the printer will prepare itself for
printing in case you want to use it. If you do not print anything,
however, or let it sit idle without power, you have a greater chance of
needing to clean the head. I suspect this is something that might happen
to other printers as well. I know that with a couple of previous printers
that I have had, i.e. an Epson R200, and other Epsons, in the past that
this happened to me from time to time. The heads cleared but it cost me
the expense of doing the cleaning. I know it can get expensive.

Anyway, what I did was create a brief document that had all the colors
and black text then saved it as a file that I keep handy. The amount of
ink used is small. I make a print of it each week if I do not print some
other document. If I do make this print, I then flip over the paper and
print the same document on the other side to save paper. Doing this keeps
my printer ready for action. If you supply power to the printer, this may
not happen as often. I do not have a Kodak printer at home but I am sure
this process would work as well.

Talk to you soon, Greg,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company






I love this printer when it works. But I do not print constantly. The
printer can be turned off for maybe a month or more. But when I need
it I need it. I had no problems over the years with my old Canon
Bubblejet 4300. But they do not make ink anymore so I got rid of it
and got the Kodak 5300. After a month off I tried printing and it was
very poor text. After calling their tech support, they sent a new
print head and ink. Printer was working flawlessly once again! Now
after an extended time turned off it is acting like a clogged print
head again. I called tech support again. They told me to keep deep
cleaning until the quality was good. They did not know how many that
would be. But that was the best they can do.

Is this normal for this printer? I am thinking it is.

Thanks in advance.

 

[measekite]

They all copied Kodak - We started making them in 1884

More inflated PR. HP was the first to sell a commercially viable inkjet
printer known as the DeskJet 500 and it was a color inkjet. There was
no competition including Canon and Epson.

 

[measekite]

http://www.hp.com/oeminkjet/about_TIJ/history/milestones.html

Iit is about time the PR-BS stopped.  Read and Learn.

Ron Baird wrote:

They all copied Kodak - We started making them in 1884



"measekite" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...



Ron Baird wrote:

Mease,



 



Kodak has been in the inkjet business since the early 80's selling printers and media.  Diconix



 



Talk to you soon,



 



Ron Baird



Eastman Kodak Company


The first consumer inkjet (HP Deskjet 500) came out in the 90's or late 80's.  The laserjet 1 came out in the early 80's.  I think Kodak was blowing smoke.  Kodak made good film and paper and lousey cameras like the brownie that could not compete with Nikon, Canon, Miranda, Prackika, Mamimya, Bronica, Zeiss, Leica, contax, Monolta, Konica and even the American Argus C3.


 



"measekite" <[email protected]> wrote in message


Ron Baird wrote:

Hi Art, I have a friend that worked in the designing of the inks and the chemistry used. Although I am not a chemist, I suspect that Kodak is working on such technology as I know they spent a considerable amount of money creating inks that can yield the results they are getting. As you know, it is quite hard to get ink to work in low picoliter distribution and stay soluble.


Canon does not seem to have a problem.


My friend shared some of this with me, but I had no idea what he was talking about. He moved on down south and the chemistry he does now is mixing a drink after playing golf. I can say, however, that those like him here at Kodak truly know their stuff. Expect great things.


It makes sense that HP, Epson and Canon know their stuff better since they have been at it 10 times longer.


Talk to you soon Art, Ron Baird Eastman Kodak Company "Arthur Entlich" <[email protected]> wrote in message



Hi Ron, Your answer is not unreasonable in the light of the issues with inkjet printers, but it is disappointing that it appears no one can design a printer using pigmented inks, especially one with semi-permanent or permanent inks, which will stay unclogged. As I mentioned in another posting, the Epson Ultrachromes come closest, but they resolve this by using a high glycol formulation which gases off the glycol for weeks or months and is very slow to "dry" (the output is touch dry on output from the printer, but it isn't really). I did hope Kodak had overcome this in the head design or ink formulation. If the only solution is a test printout or similar answer, why not make it part of the printer firmware and be done with it, and be upfront about it. Art Ron Baird wrote:



Greetings Greg, I can appreciate your frustration. I am taking your experience back to the engineers I know so they are aware of your situation. They appreciate feedback like this. Actually, this condition might arise you may do not use your printer on a regular basis. Personally, it has been my experience that if you do not print often but leave the printer on when not in use, it will go through a general startup process when you boot up your computer. Generally, when you do, many do this every day, the printer will prepare itself for printing in case you want to use it. If you do not print anything, however, or let it sit idle without power, you have a greater chance of needing to clean the head. I suspect this is something that might happen to other printers as well. I know that with a couple of previous printers that I have had, i.e. an Epson R200, and other Epsons, in the past that this happened to me from time to time. The heads cleared but it cost me the expense of doing the cleaning. I know it can get expensive. Anyway, what I did was create a brief document that had all the colors and black text then saved it as a file that I keep handy. The amount of ink used is small. I make a print of it each week if I do not print some other document. If I do make this print, I then flip over the paper and print the same document on the other side to save paper. Doing this keeps my printer ready for action. If you supply power to the printer, this may not happen as often. I do not have a Kodak printer at home but I am sure this process would work as well. Talk to you soon, Greg, Ron Baird Eastman Kodak Company "the-changling" <[email protected]> wrote in message



I love this printer when it works. But I do not print constantly. The printer can be turned off for maybe a month or more. But when I need it I need it. I had no problems over the years with my old Canon Bubblejet 4300. But they do not make ink anymore so I got rid of it and got the Kodak 5300. After a month off I tried printing and it was very poor text. After calling their tech support, they sent a new print head and ink. Printer was working flawlessly once again! Now after an extended time turned off it is acting like a clogged print head again. I called tech support again. They told me to keep deep cleaning until the quality was good. They did not know how many that would be. But that was the best they can do. Is this normal for this printer? I am thinking it is. Thanks in advance. -- (e-mail address removed)

 

[measekite]

From about.com

In 1976, the inkjet printer was invented, but it took until 1988 for the inkjet to become a home consumer item with Hewlett-Parkard's release of the DeskJet inkjet printer, priced at a whopping $1000.

Ron Baird wrote:

They all copied Kodak - We started making them in 1884



"measekite" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...



Ron Baird wrote:

Mease,



 



Kodak has been in the inkjet business since the early 80's selling printers and media.  Diconix



 



Talk to you soon,



 



Ron Baird



Eastman Kodak Company


The first consumer inkjet (HP Deskjet 500) came out in the 90's or late 80's.  The laserjet 1 came out in the early 80's.  I think Kodak was blowing smoke.  Kodak made good film and paper and lousey cameras like the brownie that could not compete with Nikon, Canon, Miranda, Prackika, Mamimya, Bronica, Zeiss, Leica, contax, Monolta, Konica and even the American Argus C3.


 



"measekite" <[email protected]> wrote in message


Ron Baird wrote:

Hi Art, I have a friend that worked in the designing of the inks and the chemistry used. Although I am not a chemist, I suspect that Kodak is working on such technology as I know they spent a considerable amount of money creating inks that can yield the results they are getting. As you know, it is quite hard to get ink to work in low picoliter distribution and stay soluble.


Canon does not seem to have a problem.


My friend shared some of this with me, but I had no idea what he was talking about. He moved on down south and the chemistry he does now is mixing a drink after playing golf. I can say, however, that those like him here at Kodak truly know their stuff. Expect great things.


It makes sense that HP, Epson and Canon know their stuff better since they have been at it 10 times longer.


Talk to you soon Art, Ron Baird Eastman Kodak Company "Arthur Entlich" <[email protected]> wrote in message



Hi Ron, Your answer is not unreasonable in the light of the issues with inkjet printers, but it is disappointing that it appears no one can design a printer using pigmented inks, especially one with semi-permanent or permanent inks, which will stay unclogged. As I mentioned in another posting, the Epson Ultrachromes come closest, but they resolve this by using a high glycol formulation which gases off the glycol for weeks or months and is very slow to "dry" (the output is touch dry on output from the printer, but it isn't really). I did hope Kodak had overcome this in the head design or ink formulation. If the only solution is a test printout or similar answer, why not make it part of the printer firmware and be done with it, and be upfront about it. Art Ron Baird wrote:



Greetings Greg, I can appreciate your frustration. I am taking your experience back to the engineers I know so they are aware of your situation. They appreciate feedback like this. Actually, this condition might arise you may do not use your printer on a regular basis. Personally, it has been my experience that if you do not print often but leave the printer on when not in use, it will go through a general startup process when you boot up your computer. Generally, when you do, many do this every day, the printer will prepare itself for printing in case you want to use it. If you do not print anything, however, or let it sit idle without power, you have a greater chance of needing to clean the head. I suspect this is something that might happen to other printers as well. I know that with a couple of previous printers that I have had, i.e. an Epson R200, and other Epsons, in the past that this happened to me from time to time. The heads cleared but it cost me the expense of doing the cleaning. I know it can get expensive. Anyway, what I did was create a brief document that had all the colors and black text then saved it as a file that I keep handy. The amount of ink used is small. I make a print of it each week if I do not print some other document. If I do make this print, I then flip over the paper and print the same document on the other side to save paper. Doing this keeps my printer ready for action. If you supply power to the printer, this may not happen as often. I do not have a Kodak printer at home but I am sure this process would work as well. Talk to you soon, Greg, Ron Baird Eastman Kodak Company "the-changling" <[email protected]> wrote in message



I love this printer when it works. But I do not print constantly. The printer can be turned off for maybe a month or more. But when I need it I need it. I had no problems over the years with my old Canon Bubblejet 4300. But they do not make ink anymore so I got rid of it and got the Kodak 5300. After a month off I tried printing and it was very poor text. After calling their tech support, they sent a new print head and ink. Printer was working flawlessly once again! Now after an extended time turned off it is acting like a clogged print head again. I called tech support again. They told me to keep deep cleaning until the quality was good. They did not know how many that would be. But that was the best they can do. Is this normal for this printer? I am thinking it is. Thanks in advance. -- (e-mail address removed)

 

[Nicolaas Hawkins]

HP was the first to sell a commercially viable inkjet
printer known as the DeskJet 500 and it was a color inkjet.

BOLLOCKS! It was no such thing!

The Deskjet 500 was a black only printer. I should know - I have one, and
it's still going like a choo-choo train. Built like a brick dunny and
still turning out perfect copy.

The Deskjet 500C was the colour version.

If you're going to make statements and pretend they are facts, at least
take some trouble over their accuracy.

 

[Taliesyn]

BOLLOCKS! It was no such thing!

The Deskjet 500 was a black only printer. I should know - I have one, and
it's still going like a choo-choo train. Built like a brick dunny and
still turning out perfect copy.

Do they still supply cartridges for it, or do you refill?

The Deskjet 500C was the colour version.

If you're going to make statements and pretend they are facts, at least
take some trouble over their accuracy.

What, and ruin his mission of general misinformation? Fortunately I
never see his replies to me anymore as he's been plonked for
intentionally lying too many times.

-Taliesyn

 

[Burt]

They all copied Kodak - We started making them in 1884

Ron - Don't forget (as our resident troll did) the Kodak Retina cameras.
They were excellent and took beautiful photos. These were pre 1970 compact
35mm cameras. The IIa and the IIc were excellent, and I also recall the
Retina Automatic III which had an auto setting or full manual if you choose,
and a meter. They were built with the quality of a fine Swiss watch and had
excellent lenses.

I also have my father's early Kodak folding bellows cameras. I think they
took 620 film. I have all his negatives some of which date back to the late
1920's and 1930's. I've blown some of these up to 11x14 in my darkroom and
they are very sharp at that magnification. The print quality is nearly as
good as b&W prints from my 6x6 Rolleiflex negs. Too bad that Measekite
doesn't know his photographic history. Also too bad that Kodak didn't
continue to build on their excellent Retina line.

 

[Nicolaas Hawkins]

Do they still supply cartridges for it, or do you refill?

H-P #26A cartridges are still around.

[...]

--
Nicolaas.

2007 Pricelessware CD now available. 600Mb of the best of the best in
Freeware. E-Mail me for details.


.... Sex is like air, it's not important unless you aren't getting any.

 

[measekite]

Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:35:09 -0700, measekite <[email protected]> wrote in <news[email protected]>:



HP was the first to sell a commercially viable inkjet printer known as the DeskJet 500 and it was a color inkjet.



BOLLOCKS! It was no such thing! The Deskjet 500 was a black only printer. I should know - I have one, and it's still going like a choo-choo train. Built like a brick dunny and still turning out perfect copy. The Deskjet 500C was the colour version. If you're going to make statements and pretend they are facts, at least take some trouble over their accuracy.


Do not need to be more accurate for the ng no it alls.

 

[measekite]

The 500/&C, in todays times are total pieces of trashy garbage as they were 5 years ago.

Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:41:42 -0400, Taliesyn <[email protected]> wrote in <news:[email protected]>:



Nicolaas Hawkins wrote:



On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:35:09 -0700, measekite <[email protected]> wrote in <news[email protected]>:



HP was the first to sell a commercially viable inkjet printer known as the DeskJet 500 and it was a color inkjet.



BOLLOCKS! It was no such thing! The Deskjet 500 was a black only printer. I should know - I have one, and it's still going like a choo-choo train. Built like a brick dunny and still turning out perfect copy.



Do they still supply cartridges for it, or do you refill?



H-P #26A cartridges are still around.



[...]

 

[Robert Kalita]

Did they have electricity in 1884?

They all copied Kodak - We started making them in 1884

in message



The first consumer inkjet (HP Deskjet 500) came out in the 90's or
late 80's. The laserjet 1 came out in the early 80's. I think
Kodak was blowing smoke. Kodak made good film and paper and lousey
cameras like the brownie that could not compete with Nikon, Canon,
Miranda, Prackika, Mamimya, Bronica, Zeiss, Leica, contax, Monolta,
Konica and even the American Argus C3.

 

[Bob Headrick]

Did they have electricity in 1884?

HP claims the first mass marketed inkjet printer, the Thinkjet introduced in
1984. See
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/abouthp/histnfacts/museum/imagingprinting/0011/index.html

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging