Jonathans' sig.

M

Mac

How does one copyright all or any posts? Come on - you're a very great
source of help...but your sig is just getting too silly...
 
J

John Barnett MVP

Legally anything that it written down is copyright, even your post. There is
nothing specific that you have to do to make it copyright. Okay add the
copyright symbol if you like but it doesn't make a lot of difference.

Copyright actually swings into action when someone deliberately copies your
words and 'passes them off' as their own. Quoting someone is rather
different. So long as the quote is no more than 10 percent of the initial
material and is enclosed in quotes and the copyright owner acknowledged then
that is fine.


--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org

The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind,
either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any
direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use
of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post..
 
M

Mac

On Usenet too? I don't think so...

John Barnett MVP said:
Legally anything that it written down is copyright, even your post. There
is nothing specific that you have to do to make it copyright. Okay add the
copyright symbol if you like but it doesn't make a lot of difference.

Copyright actually swings into action when someone deliberately copies
your words and 'passes them off' as their own. Quoting someone is rather
different. So long as the quote is no more than 10 percent of the initial
material and is enclosed in quotes and the copyright owner acknowledged
then that is fine.


--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org

The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind,
either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
post..
 
J

John Jay Smith

And I quote:
"Legally anything that it written down is copyright ...[I skip the rest due
to copyright restrictions]... acknowledged then
that is fine."

:)
 
M

Mac

You're being too silly now John as no one can prove who wrote what on usenet
;-) and who would even try?

In fact I am John.... ;-)

John Jay Smith said:
And I quote:
"Legally anything that it written down is copyright ...[I skip the rest
due to copyright restrictions]... acknowledged then
that is fine."

:)

John Barnett MVP said:
Legally anything that it written down is copyright, even your post. There
is nothing specific that you have to do to make it copyright. Okay add
the copyright symbol if you like but it doesn't make a lot of difference.

Copyright actually swings into action when someone deliberately copies
your words and 'passes them off' as their own. Quoting someone is rather
different. So long as the quote is no more than 10 percent of the initial
material and is enclosed in quotes and the copyright owner acknowledged
then that is fine.


--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org

The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
this post..
 
M

Mac

Is written down the same as typed?

Mac said:
How does one copyright all or any posts? Come on - you're a very great
source of help...but your sig is just getting too silly...
 
J

John Barnett MVP

On Usenet too. And yes written down is typed as well.
Thousands of my posts are scattered on Usenet but, in most cases, i am cited
as the author. I have no problem with that, because i have posted a reply in
good faith to help other user's. Some people dislike their prose being
scattered to the four winds of cyber space that is their prerogative. IP
numbers are easily traced anyway and all newgroups keep records of where the
post has been sent from etc, so with a little bit of work the culprit can be
found.

A recent incident actually comes to mind whereby, while checking my website
statistics, i came across a site i hadn't seen before. Upon investigating
further the link took me to a website that specialised in Windows XP help
and support. The site was well laid out and had some useful tips. I then
noticed a Windows XP faq link. Well i like to know what information other
sites are giving out, if only to make sure i am up to date on my own
website. Imagine the surprise when i clicked on the link and found 125 pages
of my own website 'pasted' into this website. The only thing missing was my
website masthead. The guy hadn't even linked the page to my site, he had
simply copied the whole lot and pasted into his site. Now if that isn't
copyright infringement i don't know what is. A quick cease and desist notice
to the guy in question and a copy to his web hosting company followed by a
threat of legal action soon closed him down.

As i've said newsgroup posts don't bother me (unless they are libellous). It
simply depends upon where your priorities lie.


--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org

The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind,
either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any
direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use
of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post..
 
J

John Jay Smith

My real name is not john though :)

Mac said:
You're being too silly now John as no one can prove who wrote what on
usenet ;-) and who would even try?

In fact I am John.... ;-)

John Jay Smith said:
And I quote:
"Legally anything that it written down is copyright ...[I skip the rest
due to copyright restrictions]... acknowledged then
that is fine."

:)

John Barnett MVP said:
Legally anything that it written down is copyright, even your post.
There is nothing specific that you have to do to make it copyright. Okay
add the copyright symbol if you like but it doesn't make a lot of
difference.

Copyright actually swings into action when someone deliberately copies
your words and 'passes them off' as their own. Quoting someone is rather
different. So long as the quote is no more than 10 percent of the
initial material and is enclosed in quotes and the copyright owner
acknowledged then that is fine.


--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org

The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
this post..



How does one copyright all or any posts? Come on - you're a very great
source of help...but your sig is just getting too silly...

Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
 
J

John Barnett MVP

Copying and passing the contents off as your own is exactly the same
regardless of whether it be from a website or usernet. As far as i am aware
there is not distinction in copyright law. Copying and passing off as your
own work something that has been created by someone else is breach of
copyright, period!

--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org

The information in this post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind,
either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for any
direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use
of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this post..
 
M

Marc

There are a lot of web site that mirror news groups, and put adverts
around them, claiming its their own discussion board. Anyone searching
for a question about MSN is likely to get one of these sites.
 

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