is there a ng for Win 7 ? tia

K

Kris

From what I've been hearing from testers you wouldn't have to worry
about upgrading hardwares at this time if you are already running Vista.
Windows 7 will be a little bit lighter on system resources.

From what I've seen with it, I would agree. Having a bit of trouble with
sleep function and wondered if there was a ng yet. minor stuff. Win 7 is
/ will be a piece of cake. I love it!
 
K

Kris

One unnamed tester was running one of the previous stages with less
then 512mb of memory and an old Pentium 4 2ghz cpu without difficulty.
When later working with 2gb of memory the performance value was
commented on favorably.

It shows that the refinement of the Vista kernel is starting to be
noticed. In a sense Windows 7 won't be giving you so much of that
"bloated feeling".

yes, it's faster. it's a bit like Vista on a diet. Still has sxs and
still chews up about 11gb, a few days after the install. Slight change to
the taskbar, etc, but users should have an easy time getting used to it.
As always, some will bitch. But I'll buy it when it comes available. I
waited for SP1 with Vista. I'll go with the initial release with Win7.
 
K

Kris

The 64bit beta version installed like lightning here once booting off
of the dvd burned. It certainly sees less clutter when unpacking setup
files onto the hard drive.

On the other hand downloading the 32bit version has been a major task
since you may get as far as 574mb and the download drops off due to the
heavy volume on the MS servers. It took a full day for the 64bit release
which saw a steady download and was simply timed out at 90% a few times.
:confused:

My 32bit came as a genuine from torrent, with key, good to Aug 1, 09

I don't play with 64 bit because application software just isn't there yet
- would be lovely if it were! but a lot of the probs I see are specificaly
on 64bit systems...

I was unable to d/l from MS because I didn't know the "trick" - use IE, not
FF for the d/l. If I'm bored, I'll try that on tech net today... just
checked - nope, not working at the moment. I'll keep trying. They are
giving out keys like crazy, but I'm guessing it'a only a 30 day build.
don't know if it's rearmable. (lovely set ov very bad trojans under the
label of 7PP on the torrents - heehee - I use Avast, but KNOW WHAT YOU ARE
DOING!!! heehee

Good to hear about the 64 bit one - yeah I bet it would fly!!! We've got
all this great hardware under the hood, and very little to use it...

As to my own build, I succeeded in locking it up yesterday - could boot to
safe, but not to desktop. Probably after installing Sunbelt firewall. And
I hadn't made an Acronis image of it yet... Live and learn!!! I'll
rebuild it sometime this week.

Just tried the d/l again and it's going - it's honking - 2.3 mb/s
When you first try it under IE, it will ask you to install a download
manager from Akamai - do so, then try download again. If it just flashes
back, wait a few whatevers and click download again - until the save screen
comes up - point to a partition and directory and let it go!
 
K

Kris

My 32bit came as a genuine from torrent, with key, good to Aug 1, 09

I don't play with 64 bit because application software just isn't there yet
- would be lovely if it were! but a lot of the probs I see are specificaly
on 64bit systems...

I was unable to d/l from MS because I didn't know the "trick" - use IE, not
FF for the d/l. If I'm bored, I'll try that on tech net today... just
checked - nope, not working at the moment. I'll keep trying. They are
giving out keys like crazy, but I'm guessing it'a only a 30 day build.
don't know if it's rearmable. (lovely set ov very bad trojans under the
label of 7PP on the torrents - heehee - I use Avast, but KNOW WHAT YOU ARE
DOING!!! heehee

Good to hear about the 64 bit one - yeah I bet it would fly!!! We've got
all this great hardware under the hood, and very little to use it...

As to my own build, I succeeded in locking it up yesterday - could boot to
safe, but not to desktop. Probably after installing Sunbelt firewall. And
I hadn't made an Acronis image of it yet... Live and learn!!! I'll
rebuild it sometime this week.

Just tried the d/l again and it's going - it's honking - 2.3 mb/s
When you first try it under IE, it will ask you to install a download
manager from Akamai - do so, then try download again. If it just flashes
back, wait a few whatevers and click download again - until the save screen
comes up - point to a partition and directory and let it go!

d/l done that was quick!
 
K

Kris

The beta experience page appeared late there. When going for the 32bit
beta I kept getting timed out until the download manager appeared along
with the download link finally seen on the Windows 7 page at 'Welcome
to Windows 7' (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/)

Once you arrive there look for the 'Download the Windows 7 Beta'
(http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-download.aspx)
"download the Windows 7 beta" link.

It certainly loads right up faster then Vista right from the start. But
besides being a beta remember you still will be installing a fresh copy
of Windows without anything else on. Once several programs can be loaded
on that will tell how well it performs.

I suspect that many rushed out for 6-8gb of memory are going to be
puzzled :blush: when they have a chance to run the next version.

my current tale of woe - heehee - last install, my IE stopped working.
That was before it started locking before getting to desktop. Just
installed again, going very slowly, and it gave me a message that it had to
chkdsk files on C (Win7), and deleted easily 1000 directory entries. I had
taken an acronis image before that, so I will restore that and have a
looksee. My suspicion is that one of the add-ons to FF hosed it, but it
may have been Acronis itself. ANYTHING that adds services should be
immediately suspect. Remember that NONE of this stuff has been okayed for
Win7. It's all a bunch of hee hee, and a lot of giggles if it even works
at all. But it IS FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As to memory, I have 2gb - when I tried it with 4 it only used 3 and it ran
slower (course that memory was clocked slower.....). I doubt it will need
more than 2gb tops, unless you're running 64bit, and serious CADCAM stuff.
Later!
 
K

Kris

So far everything that will install has gone on well. The only problem
run into was running the prebuild of AVG I have saved to a folder where
7 crashed while running the initial system scan. I'm still trying to get
everything on at the moment and will likely get on the 32bit beta with
more.

As for the 64bit version there are no 64bit drivers for dsl here making
that a short lived item not being able to connect online for
anything(drivers, any updates for software to try out, etc.). :cry: And
I just got done adding a new pair of 2gb dimms in too!

I'm back up again with another new install - I'm guessing that it was
Acronis 2009 that hosed the MFT, so I'm doing my images via the standalone
cd.
 
K

Kris

I'm waiting to get everything on to see if the 32bit beta gets hosed
again by something. :eek: I simply burned the dvd image to disk and
booted from that to see the installation go on. Make sure everything is
going good before running Acronis again there.

yes! I have taken lots of images (by booting to CD), but I have NOT
installed Acronis as I think it hosed the system.

The MS Update for Realtek LAN may be bad.

So far, Blu-Ray (WinDVD9br) , OnAir GT HDTV, Puran defrag (done at boot it
gets the directories), OpenOffice, fireFox, coretemp, SIMeter, DUMeter,
Avast A/V, Lavasoft AdAware, Roboform, Agent Ransack, Irfanview, T'Bird,
Registrar registry editer, HDTach, TreeSize, Logitech SetPoint and
Uberoptions for MX620 mouse, etc... all work just fine. I tried IE7Pro
but it didn't save the tabs so I took it back off. I used a modified form
of Langa to remove a bunch of temp stuff. Gibson Reasearch Shields up
shows stealth. Speakeasy shows the line is good... etc

Gadgets does nothing other than buzz the HD a bit. nothing's there...

Yahoo Widgets won't install because it's not a recognized flavor of opsys.

Oh, be careful of Heidi Eraser - that may have been a cause of some
problems for me on a previous build. Like the hosed MFT

So far, on this build, very solid, very fast. No bsod or anything. I
Like.

I miss having Acronis on the system, so I'll try that again in a day or 2
just after I've taken an image, to be safe.

Too bad you bought the extra memory, but you can always use it!
 
K

Kris

yes! I have taken lots of images (by booting to CD), but I have NOT
installed Acronis as I think it hosed the system.

The MS Update for Realtek LAN may be bad.

So far, Blu-Ray (WinDVD9br) , OnAir GT HDTV, Puran defrag (done at boot it
gets the directories), OpenOffice, fireFox, coretemp, SIMeter, DUMeter,
Avast A/V, Lavasoft AdAware, Roboform, Agent Ransack, Irfanview, T'Bird,
Registrar registry editer, HDTach, TreeSize, Logitech SetPoint and
Uberoptions for MX620 mouse, etc... all work just fine. I tried IE7Pro
but it didn't save the tabs so I took it back off. I used a modified form
of Langa to remove a bunch of temp stuff. Gibson Reasearch Shields up
shows stealth. Speakeasy shows the line is good... etc

Gadgets does nothing other than buzz the HD a bit. nothing's there...

Yahoo Widgets won't install because it's not a recognized flavor of opsys.

Oh, be careful of Heidi Eraser - that may have been a cause of some
problems for me on a previous build. Like the hosed MFT

So far, on this build, very solid, very fast. No bsod or anything. I
Like.

I miss having Acronis on the system, so I'll try that again in a day or 2
just after I've taken an image, to be safe.

Too bad you bought the extra memory, but you can always use it!

also, I had found this with a previous build - SLEEP doesn't....... but I
seem to recall that it took them a while to get sleep to work under Vista,
and now it works perfectly. Maybe build 7001? heehee
 
K

Kris

also, I had found this with a previous build - SLEEP doesn't....... but I
seem to recall that it took them a while to get sleep to work under Vista,
and now it works perfectly. Maybe build 7001? heehee

oops - SLEEP works fine if I uncheck the box in Devices / Network Adapters
/ Power mgt tab that says allow it to wake system. Duh! should have
checked that first!!!
 
K

Kris

I see you're running Irfanview and OpenOffice there as well. I've been
running AVG 8.0 along with the Wise Registry cleaner-1Click, Wise Disk
Clean -1click, Spyware Terminator, TBird, SumatraPDF, Adobe, Itunes+QT,
WinRar, FastStone Capture, DOSBox, the Intellipoint 6.2 update for the
optical Trackball Explorer, even a tv tuner card where the picture is
greyed out for the time being.

Some other tools like CPUID, PC Wizard 2008, IE new window maximizer,
ImgBurn, StarBurn, Nero 8 Express, and some others will be tossed into
the mix. As far as gadgets none were seen when trying to select.
Regarding the memory the pair was simply to upgrade from 2gb upto 4gb
which hasn't been a problem with the 32bit build and still reports a
little over 3.5gb total with about 33% in use.

Thanks for the list - just went and tried Sumatra PDF and that's a keeper!
I'll look at others in there. Thanks!

Acronis TI home 2009 was/is not the problem - installed (twice) and works
perfectly. It may have been Heidi that hosed my MFT. Something sure
did!!! Things are fine now. What do you use for a file / free space DOD
security eraser? I need a replace met for Heidi...
 
K

Kris

For erasers or degaussers I can point at you a few retail ideas while
many will simply look for a freeware that writes binary zeros to a hard
drive. The first link has devices for both hard drives and optical media
as well. 'Verity Systems Hard Drive Degaussers / Erasers'
(http://www.veritysystems.com/degaussers/hard-drive-degaussers.asp?sub_category=HDD)

For a retail software the WipeDrive software fits the role pretty well.
'Hard Drive Eraser: WipeDrive Hard Drive Eraser is Department of Defense
Approved' (http://www.whitecanyon.com/hard-drive-eraser.php)

thanks for the links, but, LOL, you're right - I go for the freebies.

When getting rid of a drive (I build my own stuff, so it's never "part" of
a computer) , the only safe way is to unscrew the lid, then go at the
platter(s) for a while with a hammer and chisel such that even a CIA type
with years on his hands could get nothing other than scrap metal. I do
have standalone bootable on CD programs that will erase all info, but it
takes a VERY long time to do even a 40GB drive (I've got 2 I need to
scrap).

What Heidi did for me (free) was to give me a choice af about 5 different
algorithms and changeable number of passes, and allow me to erase just a
single file, or directory, or all files on a partition - OR it would clear
overwrite the space between files, and in cluster tips (one partition at a
time). I used a "pseudorandom data", as I did it often enough that if
someone wanted to get info that I had deleted, it would take them years.
That's also a clear reason to compress/defrag directories at boot time - to
get rid of directory information about deleted files. I do all that and I
really have nothing on my computer that I wouldn't mind simply giving to
FBI/CIA and letting them have a look-see. It's folks who cheat on riaa
that need to worry. I don't think even microsoft actually goes after
anyone... But I live legal.

I'll send Heidi a note.

By the way, Realtek hi-def sound driver R2.14 DOES work just fine on Win 7,
including the "environment" setup (speaker distances). I use 5.1 .
 
K

Kris

thanks for the links, but, LOL, you're right - I go for the freebies.

When getting rid of a drive (I build my own stuff, so it's never "part" of
a computer) , the only safe way is to unscrew the lid, then go at the
platter(s) for a while with a hammer and chisel such that even a CIA type
with years on his hands could get nothing other than scrap metal. I do
have standalone bootable on CD programs that will erase all info, but it
takes a VERY long time to do even a 40GB drive (I've got 2 I need to
scrap).

What Heidi did for me (free) was to give me a choice af about 5 different
algorithms and changeable number of passes, and allow me to erase just a
single file, or directory, or all files on a partition - OR it would clear
overwrite the space between files, and in cluster tips (one partition at a
time). I used a "pseudorandom data", as I did it often enough that if
someone wanted to get info that I had deleted, it would take them years.
That's also a clear reason to compress/defrag directories at boot time - to
get rid of directory information about deleted files. I do all that and I
really have nothing on my computer that I wouldn't mind simply giving to
FBI/CIA and letting them have a look-see. It's folks who cheat on riaa
that need to worry. I don't think even microsoft actually goes after
anyone... But I live legal.

I'll send Heidi a note.

By the way, Realtek hi-def sound driver R2.14 DOES work just fine on Win 7,
including the "environment" setup (speaker distances). I use 5.1 .

news. I tried a bunch of others but no success in getting rid of the stuff
Recova shows. finally bit the bullet and tried Heidi Eraser 5.86a again
and used it to clear space on C including cluster tips and that worked just
fine and Recova showed virtually nothing left.

So I am totally in the dark as to what blew my MFT on one of those builds
back there. All seems well now.
 

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