Nikon Coolscan 5000ED Driver for Win 7


J

Jethro Pull

Just built a computer with Win 7 but can't use my Coolscan so far
because there's no Win 7 driver. One of the excellent suggestions is to
drop back to the former computer, Win XP Pro, when using the scanner.
Good suggestion.

However, is there a way to install my 5000ED on my Win 7 computer yet?

TIA.
 
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Toni Nikkanen

Jethro Pull said:
However, is there a way to install my 5000ED on my Win 7 computer yet?
Try Nikon Scan in Windows XP running in a virtual machine, or Vuescan.
 
B

Barry Watzman

I have an LS-2000 installed and working under Windows 7. Nikon Scan
3.1.2 using the XP drivers. Installation was very difficult, but mostly
it was the SCSI part that was hard. I can't imagine that you can't use
the Vista drivers under Windows 7. However, there are no 64-bit drivers
(for any of these scanners under any 64-bit OS) as far as I know ... so
you have to be using Windows 7 32-bit.

One other option is "XP Mode", but it is only available with Windows 7
Professional and Ultimate.

I published my results for using the LS-2000 under Windows 7 earlier (in
this newsgroup). I have heard from others, some of whom have also
gotten it to work but others of whom have not been able to get it to work.

I really can't believe that you can't get the LS-5000 to work using the
Vista drivers, unless you have 64-bit Windows 7 (in which case your only
hope is XP Mode).
 
J

Jethro Pull

You guessed it ... I have Windows 7 64-bit. When I attempt to install,
even in XP mode, the driver install program senses my operating system
and won't go any further. It simply exits after telling me it can't install.

I have been looking at VueScan, thanks to a suggestion from Tom Nikkanen
and it looks great, even their implementation of ICE which Ed Hamrick,
the author, calls Filter|Infrared Clean in his program. He claims it
does a better job. I've look at their PDF manual and, if I were Mr.
Nikon, I'd try to hire this guy pronto. I've been using the Super
CoolScan 5000 for about four years under XP and am very familiar with
the Nikon interface. This VueScan ... and the terrific accompanying
manual have the Nikon interface beat hands down and it works under Win7
64-bit!

Nuff said. Thanks for your reply.
 
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Toni Nikkanen

Jethro Pull said:
I have been looking at VueScan, thanks to a suggestion from Tom
Nikkanen and it looks great, even their implementation of ICE which Ed
Hamrick, the author, calls Filter|Infrared Clean in his program. He
claims it does a better job. I've look at their PDF manual and, if I
were Mr. Nikon, I'd try to hire this guy pronto. I've been using the
Super CoolScan 5000 for about four years under XP and am very familiar
with the Nikon interface.
I find it unfortunate Nikon doesn't seem to consider hiring anyone to do
anything about their scanner software anymore... they've all but stopped
making scanners and used Coolscans now go for even double the price
of a new one last year! Insanity, I say.

I think they should produce one more batch of Coolscan V's and 9000's
and sell them for a higher price than they used to. They'd sell, since the
used ones are selling for such ridiculous high prices. And if they think
it's too much bother to write support for Windows 7 64-bit, OS X 10.6
and so on, well, just bundle Vuescan or Silverfast, I'd be happy or at
least happier than with any flatbed out there.
 
J

Jethro Pull

After looking at your recommendation, VueScan, I don't much care if or
when Nikon updates to Win 7. It's strange that this line of scnners is
the last to get the Win 7 driver update.

Many thanks for your help, this morning, Toni.
 
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Barry Watzman

Re: "I think they should produce one more batch of Coolscan V's"

From about 1998, Nikon made each scanner in two versions, a "Consumer"
version and a "Professional" version.

LS-30 (Consumer) / LS-2000 (Pro)
LS-40 / LS-4000
LS-50 / LS-5000

[The LS-30/40/50 were also known as the Coolscan III, IV and V]

It was mostly smoke and mirrors, however. The LS-30 and LS-2000 are
IDENTICAL except for the main PC Board, and it is widely believed
(although not absolutely verified) that ONLY difference was ... the
firmware. Regarldless, the LS-2000 was priced more than A THOUSAND
DOLLARS higher than the LS-30 .... and either had the EXACT same
manufacturing cost, or, AT MOST, a manufacturing cost that differed by
only $5 to $20.

I think that the decision to discontinue the LS-50 (Coolscan V) was
simply a decision to stop playing these games, and offer only the LS-5000.
 
J

Jethro Pull

Are you suggesting that the driver update for the LS-5000 could be used
for the 5000ED?

Actually, for me, this is a moot point because Ed Hamrick said his
product VueScan will recognize my CoolScan 5000ED ... all of this thanks
to the info in this newsgroup and Toni Nikkanen's help.

Re: "I think they should produce one more batch of Coolscan V's"

From about 1998, Nikon made each scanner in two versions, a "Consumer"
version and a "Professional" version.

LS-30 (Consumer) / LS-2000 (Pro)
LS-40 / LS-4000
LS-50 / LS-5000

[The LS-30/40/50 were also known as the Coolscan III, IV and V]

It was mostly smoke and mirrors, however. The LS-30 and LS-2000 are
IDENTICAL except for the main PC Board, and it is widely believed
(although not absolutely verified) that ONLY difference was ... the
firmware. Regarldless, the LS-2000 was priced more than A THOUSAND
DOLLARS higher than the LS-30 .... and either had the EXACT same
manufacturing cost, or, AT MOST, a manufacturing cost that differed by
only $5 to $20.

I think that the decision to discontinue the LS-50 (Coolscan V) was
simply a decision to stop playing these games, and offer only the
LS-5000.



Toni said:
I find it unfortunate Nikon doesn't seem to consider hiring anyone to do
anything about their scanner software anymore... they've all but stopped
making scanners and used Coolscans now go for even double the price
of a new one last year! Insanity, I say.

I think they should produce one more batch of Coolscan V's and 9000's
and sell them for a higher price than they used to. They'd sell,
since the
used ones are selling for such ridiculous high prices. And if they think
it's too much bother to write support for Windows 7 64-bit, OS X 10.6
and so on, well, just bundle Vuescan or Silverfast, I'd be happy or at
least happier than with any flatbed out there.
 
T

Toni Nikkanen

Barry Watzman said:
I think that the decision to discontinue the LS-50 (Coolscan V) was
simply a decision to stop playing these games, and offer only the
LS-5000.
Wish it were so, but seems the LS-5000 is vanishing from stores just as
well. Many list it as backordered, if at all.

Personally, I am concerned about the LS-9000, since I still use, and enjoy
medium format film for it's qualities, and as an LS-8000 user have been
considering upgrading at some point.
 
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Jethro Pull

I have the 5000ED and back in December Win 7 64-bit OS wouldn't install
it. I just tried again and it installed as LS-5000 and seems to function
.... but I'm the newest user of VueScan Pro and have instructions from
VueScan in case the LS-5000 driver doesn't work.

You'd think Nikon would direct its 5000ED users to the LS-5000 driver.
 
B

Barry Watzman

As far as I know, there is only one LS-5000, and "LS-5000ED" is just a
different name for it.

Jethro said:
Are you suggesting that the driver update for the LS-5000 could be used
for the 5000ED?

Actually, for me, this is a moot point because Ed Hamrick said his
product VueScan will recognize my CoolScan 5000ED ... all of this thanks
to the info in this newsgroup and Toni Nikkanen's help.

Re: "I think they should produce one more batch of Coolscan V's"

From about 1998, Nikon made each scanner in two versions, a "Consumer"
version and a "Professional" version.

LS-30 (Consumer) / LS-2000 (Pro)
LS-40 / LS-4000
LS-50 / LS-5000

[The LS-30/40/50 were also known as the Coolscan III, IV and V]

It was mostly smoke and mirrors, however. The LS-30 and LS-2000 are
IDENTICAL except for the main PC Board, and it is widely believed
(although not absolutely verified) that ONLY difference was ... the
firmware. Regarldless, the LS-2000 was priced more than A THOUSAND
DOLLARS higher than the LS-30 .... and either had the EXACT same
manufacturing cost, or, AT MOST, a manufacturing cost that differed by
only $5 to $20.

I think that the decision to discontinue the LS-50 (Coolscan V) was
simply a decision to stop playing these games, and offer only the
LS-5000.



Toni said:
I have been looking at VueScan, thanks to a suggestion from Tom
Nikkanen and it looks great, even their implementation of ICE which Ed
Hamrick, the author, calls Filter|Infrared Clean in his program. He
claims it does a better job. I've look at their PDF manual and, if I
were Mr. Nikon, I'd try to hire this guy pronto. I've been using the
Super CoolScan 5000 for about four years under XP and am very familiar
with the Nikon interface.

I find it unfortunate Nikon doesn't seem to consider hiring anyone to do
anything about their scanner software anymore... they've all but stopped
making scanners and used Coolscans now go for even double the price
of a new one last year! Insanity, I say.

I think they should produce one more batch of Coolscan V's and 9000's
and sell them for a higher price than they used to. They'd sell,
since the
used ones are selling for such ridiculous high prices. And if they think
it's too much bother to write support for Windows 7 64-bit, OS X 10.6
and so on, well, just bundle Vuescan or Silverfast, I'd be happy or at
least happier than with any flatbed out there.
 
B

Barry Watzman

I don't think that the LS-5000 and LS-5000ED are actually different
scanners. The "ED" just meant that the lenses were made from extra low
dispersion glass. And I think that they started that with the LS-4000
(ok, LS-4000ED) and continued it in the LS-5000 (LS-5000ED). I don't
think that there are two different scanners. And even if there were,
changing the lens glass would not change the electronics or require
different drivers.

I think that these are just two different names for the same scanner.

Just as "Coolscan III" and "LS-30" are two different names for the same
scanner.
 
K

Kennedy McEwen

Jethro Pull said:
Are you suggesting that the driver update for the LS-5000 could be used
for the 5000ED?
The LS-5000 *is* the Super Coolscan 5000ED - one name on the front
panel, the other on the rear panel. ;-)
 
J

Jethro Pull

Thanks to everyone in this newsgroup who had ideas. I'm now in business
happily scanning with my 5000ED in Win 7 64-bit.
 
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Rob

Jethro -

I recently started a new dialogue here ("Nikon scanner
on 64 bit OS") and now see that you had the exact same problem 2 years ago.
I'm working with the free version of Vuescan. I'm glad to see you mention
that they do have "ICE". Do they have "DEE," to lighten the shadows? What
does the $80 version (Pro) have that the $40 does not? Did you ever get
Nikon Scan to run with XP emulation mode? Any insights would be helpful.
Irrespective with a x64 system you still have the 32 bit available
within - there many many programmes that are 32 bit and work in the 64
bit environment. One example is MS Office. So its not necessary to find
a 64 bit scanning programme for the scanner just because you have a 64
bit OS.
 

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