Invalid Key?

[Saran]

The reason for an "invalid" key message is because it is an OEM disk.

It should still allow it.

The computer manufacturers(like Dell, HP, etc), buy cheap vista
licences from microsoft.

They buy bulk, yes, and like any other bulk purchasing, there is a
discount involved.

In return for CHEAP licences THEY(the computer manufacturers) agree to
supply ALL Technicial Support for hardware AND software, which
includes the operating system.

Not quite. First of all, they are not "cheap licenses", but a bulk
discount. If you ever dealt with te process you would know as we have.
We are not na OEM but we do a lot of servicing and dealing with the
OEMs.

OEMs need to provide the front line tech support, this is true, but
Microsoft still has to support /their/ product. How else does one get
windows updates if they can't get into the support site?

 

[Saran]

So you are either too stupid or just plain too incompetent to
correctly install and properly run Vista, huh?
Well, people like you should proly stick with XP and even it may have
taken yrs for you to actually learn to properly configure and use.
Frank

XP was actually pretty easy to configure to my liking and didn't take
very long at all. And I know I am not the only one. Yes, you can setup
Vista to your liking, but it's a real PITA... and why should oen have to
go through all that? Changing OS's only for the sake of changing is not
a real reason to go through all thast when your current OS does
everything you need and runs the way you like it.

 

[Frank]

XP was actually pretty easy to configure to my liking and didn't take
very long at all. And I know I am not the only one. Yes, you can setup
Vista to your liking, but it's a real PITA...

Hummm...that is your personal opinion. You're relating where things are
located in XP and some are not in the same place in Vista.
So? Big deal!

and why should oen have to

go through all that? Changing OS's only for the sake of changing is not
a real reason to go through all thast when your current OS does
everything you need and runs the way you like it.

Who said that is why things were slightly changed in Vista..you?
Don't worry, W7 is Vista with upgrades and updates...either learn Vista
now or else go thru the same process when you get W7.
Frank

 

[Saran]

Hummm...that is your personal opinion. You're relating where things
are located in XP and some are not in the same place in Vista.
So? Big deal!

That's not what I said.

and why should oen have to

Who said that is why things were slightly changed in Vista..you?

I didn't say "changed in Vista" you nerf ball, I said changing over to
Vista for the sake of changing over is not a very good reason for doing
so. Learning to #%^&ing read.

 

[Frank]

That's not what I said.

It is still only your personal opinion...nothing more than that.

I didn't say "changed in Vista" you nerf ball, I said changing over to
Vista for the sake of changing over is not a very good reason for doing
so.

Still only your personal opinion. Accept it!

Learning to #%^&ing read.

Learn to accept the fact that what you're posting and pushing is your
personal opinion.
Frank

 

[Athquiz]

Yeah I did use the wrong wording I guess. And I'm supposed to have at least
1gb of RAM, so I'm not sure why it says 894. But if that's the only problem
it's easily fixed.

 

[Alias]

It is still only your personal opinion...nothing more than that.

Still only your personal opinion. Accept it!

Learning to #%^&ing read.

Learn to accept the fact that what you're posting and pushing is your
personal opinion.
Frank

Yeah, and Frank is posting facts. NOT.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Yeah, and Frank is posting facts. NOT.

Alias

hehehe...tells us all about the "facts" you post mr liar, mr troll...LOL!
Well...!
Frank

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

OEM is not a Microsoft product for practical purposes,
Think of OEM as manufactured, sold and supported by the manufacturer
and not Microsoft.
Except for a few limited cases, Microsoft does not support OEM.

Since this is an HP computer, support, if any comes from HP.

One of the many reasons you pay less for OEM than others pay for
retail.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

"There is NO reason why it shouldn't be accepting his key..."
Yes, there is.
We are referring to OEM and the computer manufacturer agreed to
support instead of Microsoft.
A retail IL will be accepted, but then retail customers paid more, and
Microsoft support is one of the many differences between OEM and
retail.

"THe OEM is respoinsible for the computer asa whoel"
And that includes the operating system.
The OEM sells a system that includes the computer with operating
system.
The OEM supports the entire system.

"but support for the operating system itself falls on MS's"
No, the OEM has agreed to accept that responsibility partially in
exchange for the lower cost of Windows.
Another of the many reasons OEM is cheaper than retail.

 

[Alias]

hehehe...tells us all about the "facts" you post mr liar, mr troll...LOL!
Well...!
Frank

Fact: if you go here:

www.ubuntu.com

you can download the Ubuntu OS or server.

You can also order the CD and they will send you up to two for free and
even pay the postage.

Well?

Alias

 

[Frank]

Fact: if you go here:

www.ubuntu.com

you can download the Ubuntu OS or server.

You can also order the CD and they will send you up to two for free and
even pay the postage.

Well?

Alias

Fact: You are an arrogant POS spamming lying linux troll!
Frank

 

[norm]

OEM is not a Microsoft product for practical purposes,
Think of OEM as manufactured, sold and supported by the manufacturer and
not Microsoft.

If one thinks of "oem as manufactured, sold and supported by the
manufacturer", then why does ms still have activation control? It seems
that per your statement they have ceded that right to the manufacturer.
Looks like having one's cake and eating it too.

 

[NoStop]

OEM is not a Microsoft product for practical purposes,

Good. Then for all practical purposes Microsoft's EULA means shit and can be
completely ignored. Certainly you won't see a HP or Dell EULA when you go
to run the software.

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[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Did you miss this statement in my post:
"Except for a few limited cases"
Activation is part of that.
So are updates as well as limited support for update issues.
There may also be others.

 

[Alias]

Fact: You are an arrogant POS spamming lying linux troll!
Frank

Sorry, Frank, but that is your ill informed opinion, not a fact. My
opinion is that you're a troll who's too stupid to know what a fool he
makes out of himself with every post.

Alias

 

[norm]

Did you miss this statement in my post:
"Except for a few limited cases"
Activation is part of that.
So are updates as well as limited support for update issues.
There may also be others.

I didn't miss the rest of it. I just am not sure if activation could or
should be characterized as "support" given the wording of your original
statement. The statement about the oem position in the scheme of things
just struck me as overly broad (and potentially misleading) at the very
least. If indeed (again, per your statement) the oem should be thought
of as wholly the manufacturer, seller, and supporter, there wouldn't or
shouldn't seem to be any need for ms involvement. However, it is what it
is, right, wrong or indifferent.

 

[Frank]

Sorry, Frank, but that is your ill informed opinion, not a fact. My
opinion is that you're a troll who's too stupid to know what a fool he
makes out of himself with every post.

Alias

You have even become an incompetent ubuntu spammer...in addition to
being a liar...IOW's a real loser......LOL!
Frank

 

[CB]

Frank, this isn't concerning activation, it's about getting into the
support site.

How many times to you have to be given a correct answer before you listen?
Microsoft IS NOT responsible for the support of their OS when the OS is
provided by someone other than Microsoft.

You don't know shit.

C.B.

 

[Saran]

"There is NO reason why it shouldn't be accepting his key..."

Yes, there is.
We are referring to OEM and the computer manufacturer agreed to
support instead of Microsoft.

But OEM or not he should still be able to get int othe support site. And
even if it's OEM, it's still microsoft's operating system and they have
to support the -actual- -sytsem- -itself- FFS.

The OEMs support what they provite - hardware, the configuration in how
they setup the operating system, anything preisntalled or coems with the
system, but the OS itself still has to be supported by microsoft. How is
OEM 123 going to know what registry key or command-line to fix
issue-4567890 for instance? IT would be absurd ot expect them to.