I am desperate

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Starlight

For some reason, when I try to open IE, I get the dreaded grey box
telling me IE has encountered a problem and must close. I ran Search
and Destroy, Ad-Aware, NAV, and can find no problem. I uploaded IE6
to a floppy from another computer, then tried to reinstall it on this
computer (after removing IE). I am still getting the grey box and
IE not even opening. Does anyone have any ideas on what else I can
do, considering I don't have another browser on this computer?
Becky
 
What operating system are you using? XP, 2K? Are you
working with just IE6 or IE6sp1? Have you tried to access
your event viewer to get more detailed information for the
error? Instead of launching IE by double-clicking the
icon try this:

Click Start
Click Run
Type in iexplore www.microsoft.com/windowsupdate
Click OK

If you get here without an error try to run Windows Update
to see if you need any patches for IE. There's more
things to try but answer my questions above and I'll try
to help you out.

Shawn
 
We need more information to be able to help you. Click on the details button
(or details link) when your system crshes and provide:

xxx caused an xxx in xxx at xxx:xxxx

or if you are using a later operating system, provide information about the
files (modules) involved in the crash.

If you are using the Error Reporting Tool, disable it so you can access the
error message in a more understandable form. Informationon how to disable
the Error Reporting Tool is here:

http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers4.htm#ert
 
If you have used the latest version of AdAware and Spybot, find out if the
type of parasite is from CoolWebSearch.

You may need this removal tool.
More: Complete list by variant with up-to-date information.
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If still no joy with that tool.

Go to http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads.php#det
Download "Hijack This!" [freeware] or download direct (below):
http://www.merijn.org/files/hijackthis.zip

If you get a 404 error or Access denied, try:
http://216.180.252.218/~spywareinfo.com/downloads/tools/hijackthis.zip

Unzip the Download file in a NEW FOLDER that you can create before you start
the download.
DO NOT use any of the TEMP folders that are presently in your computer.
Double-click "HijackThis.exe" and Press "Scan".

When the scan is finished, the "Scan" button will change into a "Save Log"
button.
Click: "Save Log" (generates "hijackthis.log")

Next, HijackThis | Config [button] | Misc Tools [button]
Click: Generate StartupList log [button] (generates "startuplist.txt")

Next, go to the below location:
http://www.spywareinfo.com/forums/

Sign in, then copy and paste both files in your message.

HijackThis Quick Start Help
http://www.tomcoyote.org/hjt/

The Tutorial if you want to know more about the results or the .log file.
http://www.merijn.org/htlogtutorial.html
 
We need more information to be able to help you. Click on the details button
(or details link) when your system crshes and provide:

xxx caused an xxx in xxx at xxx:xxxx

or if you are using a later operating system, provide information about the
files (modules) involved in the crash.

If you are using the Error Reporting Tool, disable it so you can access the
error message in a more understandable form. Informationon how to disable
the Error Reporting Tool is here:

http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/answers4.htm#ert

I am using AppVer: 6.0.2800.1106 ModName: shell32.dll
ModVer:5.0.3700.6705 Offset:00003439
I'll try to download Netscape to this computer via disk so I can read
your link, as I don't have a browser on this computer since IE keeps
crashing before it even opens.
I use Windows 2000. Can't duplicate the entire error report here as
it's so long, and there are no details on the grey pop-up window.
Thanks for the help.
 
....
Shawn,

Windows Update will *not* fix IE crashes.


Sandi,

We can't tell. There is no crash information.

For example if the crash signature shows

mshtml.dll version 6.0.2800.1170

then visiting WU would definitely change that symptom,
perhaps for the better.


Robert Aldwinckle
---
 
What operating system are you using? XP, 2K? Are you
working with just IE6 or IE6sp1? Have you tried to access
your event viewer to get more detailed information for the
error? Instead of launching IE by double-clicking the
icon try this:

Click Start
Click Run
Type in iexplore www.microsoft.com/windowsupdate
Click OK

If you get here without an error try to run Windows Update
to see if you need any patches for IE. There's more
things to try but answer my questions above and I'll try
to help you out.

I am using Windows 2000. I believe I downloaded IE6sp1 when this
problem started. I removed IE and then downloaded IE6sp1 using a
floppy from another computer.

I just tried the microsoft site you suggested. Netscape opened, but
I can't seem to access that site. I hate Netscape, have never worked
with it, so not sure if I'm doing something wrong. The page just
won't download.

Did the S&D, Ad-Aware, Hijack this (and fixed what was suggested).
Still, if I click on the IE icon, I get the grey box telling me IE has
encountered a problem and must close.

Tried to disable what was suggested as far as the error reporting, but
couldn't find the instructions to do so on the page provided.
 
I am using AppVer: 6.0.2800.1106 ModName: shell32.dll
ModVer:5.0.3700.6705 Offset:00003439

That shows that you have Win2000sp4 installed.
Was that done recently? Any post-sp4 patches?
(You need to think: "What changed?")

The MBSA or qfecheck tools if you have them might give you some
clues in that regard. SystemInfo from the command-line is another way
of getting similar information.

Plausible hypotheses for your crash could include:
1. misconfigured patches due to interference when they were applied
(e.g. was your anti-virus scanner active then?)
2. interference due to misapplied/broken hooks installed by malware

In the case of #1 improving the environment (e.g. disabling the interferer),
uninstalling the patch(es) and then reinstalling could be effective.

In the case of #2 try the plethora of suggestions you can find in this
newsgroup for dealing with that.


In either case it shouldn't hurt to try an IE Repair.
In fact a recent KB article documents an improved procedure for NT5
which you may want to try:

<TITLE>831429 - Windows XP stops responding when you download updates from Windows Update</TITLE>
< http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;831429 >

For your convenience here is the main procedure for your OS

<quote>
Windows 2000
Method 1: Register your system files
To register your system files, follow these steps:
1.. Click Start, click Run, and then type:
regsvr32 /i Urlmon.dll

2.. Click OK.
3.. When you receive the "DllRegisterServer in urlmon.dll succeeded" message, click OK, and then try to use the Windows Update
site.
4.. If the problem repeats, repeat steps 1-3 for each of the following commands:
a.. regsvr32 /i Shdocvw.dll
b.. regsvr32 Msjava.dll
c.. regsvr32 Actxprxy.dll
d.. regsvr32 Oleaut32.dll
e.. regsvr32 /i Mshtml.dll
f.. regsvr32 /i Browseui.dll
g.. regsvr32 /i Shell32.dll
If the issue is not resolved, some system files may be incorrect. Go to the next method.
Method 2: Run the Internet Explorer Repair Tool
</quote>

The point of doing Method 2 will be to make use of the that tool's
verification procedure, since the actual list of modules re-registered
will only be a subset of the first.


There may be clues in the drwtsn32.log if you are not inhibiting it
and it is current. To capture salient information from drwtsn32.log
do a find up from the bottom for FAULT -> (assuming an English version
of Windows). That is the crash address. Page back a bit and you may
see some entrypoint information. More importantly though is the next
section, labeled Stack Back Trace. It contains information about the
caller of the crashing routine. Occasionally the section following it
(the Raw Stack Dump) contains clues in the interpreted portion which
has helped identify third-party causes.

I have just remembered that your OS by default seems not to include
much entrypoint information in the Stack Back Trace or even module
names in the module map! For that reason I have suggested to others
that they could temporarily enable the drwtsn32 Symbol Table Dump
to supplement those deficiencies. (Run... drwtsn32 and you will see
a check box for doing that.)

I'll try to download Netscape to this computer via disk so I can read
your link, as I don't have a browser on this computer since IE keeps
crashing before it even opens.

An alternative, if you have the space on your harddrive would be to
create a separate partition and load a parallel OS. Then use its browser.

BTW could you please test your assertion
with the following command (e.g. from the Run... dialog)

iexplore -nohome

In a sense that actually opens IE "before it opens". <g>
So if that works you might be able to use the Control Panel's
Internet Options applet to reset things, especially (for example)
- change your Home page to About:Blank
- disable search from the Address bar
- uncheck Enable third-party browser extensions (requires restart)

And if those kinds of things make your browser more usable
that in turn would more strongly suggest the possibility of malware
being the cause of your problem.


Good luck

Robert Aldwinckle
 
BTW could you please test your assertion
with the following command (e.g. from the Run... dialog)

iexplore -nohome

In a sense that actually opens IE "before it opens". <g>


I tried this. I got the grey IE has encountered a problem and must
shut down pop-up.

I will try your other suggestions, if I can understand them.

I have changed absolutely nothing on this computer for a few months.
Haven't downloaded a patch because the few times I have in the past, I
ended up with problems.
When the first crash occured, I was using AIM and had been having no
problem all day (or for a few months). I accessed a web site and all
of a sudden got that grey pop up. After that I could use AIM, Free
Agent, but could not open IE.
I removed IE and reinstalled using a disk(c) after doing all the scans
and finding nothing wrong. Well, there was an Alexa according to
Spybot, but I "fixed" it.

Will keep trying, and am following instructions from AumHa forums. :)
Thanks.
Becky
 
This is not by all means a complete list, just some articles that may help.

Iexplore.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for
the inconvenience.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=293623
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=316085 (i. e. 6. XP/ME/W2000 )
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321923 (i. e. 6, W98/se/NT4/W2000/ME/XP )
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=324043 ( MS Programs 2000)
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=810948 ( i. e. 6 )
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=816506 (i. e. 6. )
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=832432 ( Example of a Parasite alert )
 
Just FYI, PA Bear on the aumha.org forum deduced that it was an
incomplete Search Bar value in the registry. He instructed me to
Delete the Search Bar value from the
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main registry
key, which I did after backing up the key.
After rebooting, IE now works!!!!!!!

Thanks for all your suggestions.
Robear, you rule! :)
Becky
 

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