HP Quickplay

[The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly]

so what kind of testing are you doing on vista business edition?

Hi Steve. I'm actually just hopping OSes right now on this tablet to
see what I'm actually happiest with. I suspect it will be XP tablet,
but if I can get all of the functionality of the tablet to work in
fedora core, I'll prolly stick with that. I put vista business on it
because we have a 2003 SBS server we just put up at home here in order
to add some functionality to our network with the linux servers we are
already running. I put vista business on the tablet to check and see if
I could retain full functionality of the tx1000z features because one
day I'm sure I'll need to eventually migrate to vista and I need it to
be able to join to a domain if it ever runs vista (which means I need it
to run vista business instead of vista home which it came preinstalled
with). My tests worked fine, I'll be trying XP next on it, then fedora.

you may or
may not have more modules in quickplay since the tx1000z has a built-in
webcam. good luck with it. and i did not know about how the different models
of the tx1000z had the different RAM limitations. i just read the max specs
of the notebook so see what its best performence could be and stuff.

Sure, I do the same thing sometimes about skimming the pc specs. As far
as the quickplay usability, all modules did load in version 3.2, then I
ran the quickplay updater and updated to 3.6 and it works great. All
modules are there. My tx1000z did not come with a webcam either.

oh by the way, i'm a bit of a tech geek. read up on the lasest technology
and hold onto older technologies as long as i can when they are
reliable....like LS120 drives, PCMCIA cards, and certian other types of
devices... before i got the tc4400 i researched it like heck and compared it
to a lot of other tablet PCs. the tx1000z was the 3rd best that i saw by HP
at the time that i was looking. after the tc4400, the 2710p was my 2nd
choice but it cost a lot more. it cut off certian legacy device support like
PCMCIA cards, but other than that its really good and has some nice
features. it just cost a lot. PCMCIA cards are becoming lecacy devices like
floppy drives because they are starting to disapear in computers like
floppies are. drivers for stnd floppy drives are not provided in vista, but
drivers for high capasity floppy drives are provided in vista.

can you tx1000z boot from floppy drives at all? because i could get it to
boot from a floopy drive at all even though it had legacy floppy drive boot
support in the BIOS. i hate it when a company says a computer has support
for something but it does not. of course then the vista compatible BIOS has
so many issues...lol

LOL, right?!? I don't know if it can boot from a floppy drive, and I
have no way to test that right now because I don't own a usb floppy
drive. I can borrow one from work and see if I can get to succeed.
I'll let you know, but it will probably be about a week before I can
test that particular functionality.

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[Steven Wabik]

that is nice of you to test the floppy thing for me. also look in the BIOS
first before doing so. and thanks.

right now i think you should use XP tablet PC edition, it has all the
features of pro edition plus all the features of a tablet PC. unlike in MCE
where some features are removed. vista business is sort of a rip off in a
way because it is missing certian key features that are really needed in a
business. thats just my opinion of it. others may not think so. its fine
otherwise. your just better off with enterprise edition or ultimate edition.
there is a way to get enterprise with getting it through volume lisencing. i
can get it through HP as an OEM copy if i really want. HP sent me business
edition when i requested it and my laptop came with Windows XP not vista. i
have to call them to get enterprise. i asked the guy that i was contacting
via email in help and support; he said that i had to call for that edition,
but he said that he could only order me basic edition or business edition.

my notebook was only tested against home basic, business, and enterprise
editions of vista. (and windows 2000)

my favorite notebook PC was made for windows 95 but i got windows XP running
on it. it was one of my mother's old work laptops. it had windows 2000 when
i got it from her. when i transfered it over to XP, i had disapointments in
XP, now i have my disapointments in vista, but only a hell of a lot more. i
only had one disapointment in XP and that was in a theme element that they
removed that i liked so muched. the model number of that notebook was the
armada e700. i like it even more than this tc4400 in a few ways.

have fun with all the OS testing. hope it turnes out well for you. i'm just
wondering, but what was your biggest disapointment in vista?



"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"

 

[The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly]

that is nice of you to test the floppy thing for me. also look in the BIOS
first before doing so. and thanks.

Sure, no problem. I'll let you know how it goes.

right now i think you should use XP tablet PC edition, it has all the
features of pro edition plus all the features of a tablet PC. unlike in MCE
where some features are removed. vista business is sort of a rip off in a
way because it is missing certian key features that are really needed in a
business. thats just my opinion of it. others may not think so. its fine
otherwise. your just better off with enterprise edition or ultimate edition.
there is a way to get enterprise with getting it through volume lisencing. i
can get it through HP as an OEM copy if i really want. HP sent me business
edition when i requested it and my laptop came with Windows XP not vista. i
have to call them to get enterprise. i asked the guy that i was contacting
via email in help and support; he said that i had to call for that edition,
but he said that he could only order me basic edition or business edition.

I don't know of any other way to get Vista Enterprise edition other than
through volume licensing.

my notebook was only tested against home basic, business, and enterprise
editions of vista. (and windows 2000)

Which one, the tc4400?

my favorite notebook PC was made for windows 95 but i got windows XP running
on it. it was one of my mother's old work laptops. it had windows 2000 when
i got it from her. when i transfered it over to XP, i had disapointments in
XP, now i have my disapointments in vista, but only a hell of a lot more. i
only had one disapointment in XP and that was in a theme element that they
removed that i liked so muched. the model number of that notebook was the
armada e700. i like it even more than this tc4400 in a few ways.

Heh, the Armadas. Yeah, I've supported dozens of those through out the
years. I still have a few of them in use at work running XP. Mostly we
had the E500s, but had a M700 as my machine at work for years, and I
also supported a few V300s. We also had one Armada 110 which was
actually a piece of junk, but for the most part they are good machines.

have fun with all the OS testing. hope it turnes out well for you. i'm just
wondering, but what was your biggest disapointment in vista?

Well, my biggest issues with Vista so far is actually on principles.
I'm a huge privacy and fair use advocate. It really bothers me that
when I'm running Vista it's not me who is ultimately in control of my
machine, it's MS. They implement this control by way of the buggy DRM
they put in Vista like WPA and WGA/N. It treats me as if I'm guilty of
piracy until proven innocent. I also find it distasteful that Vista has
about 2 dozen programs and services that phone home without really
notifying the user first. It does specify in the EULA that Vista will
do this, but that really just means that because MS put it in writing in
the license, that these programs/services will phone home any old time
they want and slut my information out to MS and who knows where else. I
find Vista much more palatable once I've turned off all of those
programs/services. That's why I've turned to Fedora Core and gotten
comfortable with that. FOSS (free open source software) does not limit
me in many of the ways that proprietary closed source software does.
The 'free' part of FOSS does not just refer to the price tag, it frees
the user from buggy, poorly implemented piracy controls, and because
it's a community effort for the OS and applications, anyone can give
input and contribute and make a difference to improving the product.
Which gives one much more freedom than having to accept only what MS
wants to do (improvements, bug fixes, new drivers, etc.). With closed
software like Windows, if you would like a change or feature
implemented, you can send the input to MS, but you are lucky if they
consider it or implement it, because most the time they only ever do
what they want which is their perrogative with their closed source software.

Getting off of my soapbox now, the biggest technical issues I've had
with Vista are driver and application compatibility and the inaccuracy
of the Upgrade Advisor.

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[Steven Wabik]

your right about the upgrade adviser. its not 100% acurate. microsoft only
made one version of it and they never updated it. but at least it can tell
you your computerr specs and if if meets vits requirements...lol it just
does not do it well enough for the software and drivers stuff.

the damn security stuff in vista is to strict. i either disable it, deal
with it, or i just modify it in some way or another. its hard to modify it
though without messing it up....

i only used the E500, the E700, and the 7800 of the armada series. my mom
works for HP. she used to wrk for digital. than compaq purchased the
company. than HP purchased compaq. i like compaq computers better. i still
have all the drives from the armada laptops...lol they work with the tc4400.
and the drives from the tc4400 work with the older compaq notebooks. i still
use the old compaq and HP multibay drives.... after my mom got a new work
laptop i olways got her old one. then once they died i ended up keeping the
drives from them. i accedentally ruined the e700 and my sister accedentally
ruined the 7800 and something happened to the other one so i ended up taking
the good parts from both and making a new laptop from the 3 of them.

if you can stay away from vista..lol except for development purposes. when i
was using the e700 i only ruined it because i was experimenting with
hardware and software technologies under XP. i also had an improper dualboot
setup at one point..lol i had xp and windows 2000 setup on the same
partition when they should have been on two different ones....

"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"

 

[Steven Wabik]

i spelled vista wrong in that one paragraph...lol

your right about the upgrade adviser. its not 100% acurate. microsoft only
made one version of it and they never updated it. but at least it can tell
you your computerr specs and if if meets vits requirements...lol it just
does not do it well enough for the software and drivers stuff.

the damn security stuff in vista is to strict. i either disable it, deal
with it, or i just modify it in some way or another. its hard to modify it
though without messing it up....

i only used the E500, the E700, and the 7800 of the armada series. my mom
works for HP. she used to wrk for digital. than compaq purchased the
company. than HP purchased compaq. i like compaq computers better. i still
have all the drives from the armada laptops...lol they work with the
tc4400. and the drives from the tc4400 work with the older compaq
notebooks. i still use the old compaq and HP multibay drives.... after my
mom got a new work laptop i olways got her old one. then once they died i
ended up keeping the drives from them. i accedentally ruined the e700 and
my sister accedentally ruined the 7800 and something happened to the other
one so i ended up taking the good parts from both and making a new laptop
from the 3 of them.

if you can stay away from vista..lol except for development purposes. when
i was using the e700 i only ruined it because i was experimenting with
hardware and software technologies under XP. i also had an improper
dualboot setup at one point..lol i had xp and windows 2000 setup on the
same partition when they should have been on two different ones....

"The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly Known as Nina DiBoy'"

 

[The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly]

that is nice of you to test the floppy thing for me. also look in the BIOS
first before doing so. and thanks.

Hi Steve. I did test booting the tx1000z tablet off of a usb floppy
disk and it worked like a charm for me. Just wanted to let you know.

right now i think you should use XP tablet PC edition, it has all the
features of pro edition plus all the features of a tablet PC. unlike in MCE
where some features are removed. vista business is sort of a rip off in a
way because it is missing certian key features that are really needed in a
business. thats just my opinion of it. others may not think so. its fine
otherwise. your just better off with enterprise edition or ultimate edition.
there is a way to get enterprise with getting it through volume lisencing. i
can get it through HP as an OEM copy if i really want. HP sent me business
edition when i requested it and my laptop came with Windows XP not vista. i
have to call them to get enterprise. i asked the guy that i was contacting
via email in help and support; he said that i had to call for that edition,
but he said that he could only order me basic edition or business edition.

my notebook was only tested against home basic, business, and enterprise
editions of vista. (and windows 2000)

my favorite notebook PC was made for windows 95 but i got windows XP running
on it. it was one of my mother's old work laptops. it had windows 2000 when
i got it from her. when i transfered it over to XP, i had disapointments in
XP, now i have my disapointments in vista, but only a hell of a lot more. i
only had one disapointment in XP and that was in a theme element that they
removed that i liked so muched. the model number of that notebook was the
armada e700. i like it even more than this tc4400 in a few ways.

have fun with all the OS testing. hope it turnes out well for you. i'm just
wondering, but what was your biggest disapointment in vista?



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