HP LaserJet 5 - paper jam - please help

[Adam]

Three things here:

The Windows ME drivers work just fine with Windows 98. But HP did not
provide drivers for the 4000-series for any of Windows 95/98/ME.

However, you can install the LaserJet 5M Postscript driver and print to
any of the LJ4000 series with it.

Just as importantly, ALL of the LJ 4000-series printers support
PostScript. I forget whether or not it is a true Adobe PostScript or a
clone. If it is PostScript licensed from Adobe, then the drivers for
any OS can be found on the Adobe web site... Ben Myers

Thanks, I was able to print to the LaserJet 4100 using
the LaserJet 5/5M Postscript driver.

Why does LaserJet 4100 not show up on the list for "Add Printer"?
Is it possible to get it to show up in the list?

 

[Ben Myers]

Thanks, I was able to print to the LaserJet 4100 using
the LaserJet 5/5M Postscript driver.

Why does LaserJet 4100 not show up on the list for "Add Printer"?
Is it possible to get it to show up in the list?

If you have the LJ4100 drivers somewhere in the hard drive, you need to
click the "Have Disk" button, then navigate to the folder with the
drivers. I do not think you will find the drivers on the Windows 98
CD... Ben Myers

 

[Adam]

Yes I agree, unless there is a specific need for PCL I always recommend PS
drivers.

Tony

Thanks guys, I successfully added "HP LaserJet 4100 PS" using
the "Have Disk" button as suggested by Ben after
removing all the old printer drivers for HP LaserJet 5.

 

[Adam]

Thanks guys, I successfully added "HP LaserJet 4100 PS" using
the "Have Disk" button as suggested by Ben after
removing all the old printer drivers for HP LaserJet 5.

FYI, I found the following LJ 4100 User Guide ...
http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Psychology/documentation/lj4100.pdf
which recommends PCL 6. Hmmm ...

 

[Ben Myers]

FYI, I found the following LJ 4100 User Guide ...
http://www.brown.edu/Departments/Psychology/documentation/lj4100.pdf
which recommends PCL 6. Hmmm ...

All I can say about HP's PCL 5 and 6 is that there are occasional
problems printing Acrobat PDFs. The Adobe web site has a whole help
section for printing PDFs.

Since Adobe invented and owns both PostScript and PDF, the right hand
knows what the left hand is doing, and PostScript printers handle any
and all PDFs perfectly provided they have enough memory... Ben Myers

 

[Adam]

All I can say about HP's PCL 5 and 6 is that there are occasional
problems printing Acrobat PDFs. The Adobe web site has a whole help
section for printing PDFs.

Since Adobe invented and owns both PostScript and PDF, the right hand
knows what the left hand is doing, and PostScript printers handle any
and all PDFs perfectly provided they have enough memory... Ben Myers

Okay, thanks!

 

[Arthur Entlich]

Just for the sake of clarity, HP was forced to remove all Win 98 and ME
drivers from their website for their printers, scanners and digital
cameras, because they used some Microsoft Win 98 code in their drivers.
When the support for WIN 98 and ME was withdrawn, by Microsoft, HP was
obligated to remove any code which had Microsoft content from those
products from HP's websites and distribution systems.

Other printer manufacturers developed their own distinct code for their
drivers which did not use the Microsoft Unidrive code in it, and
therefore can continue to supply their own drivers without violating the
MS rights.

IMHO, both Microsoft and HP were negligent. I attempted to get them to
talk to one another about this issue by a slight rewrite of the
agreement, but neither side showed a lot of willingness to move this along.

As a result, people should look elsewhere for the drivers, either from
independent sources or old disks.

Art

 

[Ben Myers]

Just for the sake of clarity, HP was forced to remove all Win 98 and ME
drivers from their website for their printers, scanners and digital
cameras, because they used some Microsoft Win 98 code in their drivers.
When the support for WIN 98 and ME was withdrawn, by Microsoft, HP was
obligated to remove any code which had Microsoft content from those
products from HP's websites and distribution systems.

Other printer manufacturers developed their own distinct code for their
drivers which did not use the Microsoft Unidrive code in it, and
therefore can continue to supply their own drivers without violating the
MS rights.

IMHO, both Microsoft and HP were negligent. I attempted to get them to
talk to one another about this issue by a slight rewrite of the
agreement, but neither side showed a lot of willingness to move this along.

As a result, people should look elsewhere for the drivers, either from
independent sources or old disks.

Art

Interesting clarification. I'll change my statement. Both HP and
Microsoft are turkeys! At this point, it would actually make sense for
Microsoft to make Windows 98 free and maybe even open source. Hey, let
people play with it.

Win 98 served the world well, but Windows 2000 in particular makes
Windows 98 look absolutely awful for stability. XP, despite its bloat
compared to Windows 2000, is rock-solid.

Although I think it plain stupid and poor public relations for
HP/Microsoft to withdraw the printer drivers, I also encourage people to
move from Windows 98 to something newer in the world of Windows. But
NOT Windows ME or Vista. The less said about Windows ME and Vista the
better... Ben Myers

 

[Adam]

Interesting clarification. I'll change my statement. Both HP and
Microsoft are turkeys! At this point, it would actually make sense for
Microsoft to make Windows 98 free and maybe even open source. Hey, let
people play with it.

Win 98 served the world well, but Windows 2000 in particular makes
Windows 98 look absolutely awful for stability. XP, despite its bloat
compared to Windows 2000, is rock-solid.

Although I think it plain stupid and poor public relations for
HP/Microsoft to withdraw the printer drivers, I also encourage people to
move from Windows 98 to something newer in the world of Windows. But
NOT Windows ME or Vista. The less said about Windows ME and Vista the
better... Ben Myers

Tough to part with a Win98SE system that
has so many useful software installed and
spend all that $$$ for new software,
which Microsoft aims to do. ;-)

I'm currently setting up a Linux box.

 

[Ben Myers]

Tough to part with a Win98SE system that
has so many useful software installed and
spend all that $$$ for new software,
which Microsoft aims to do. ;-)

I'm currently setting up a Linux box.

The other option, if one can find a Pentium 4 system with XP sticker on
it, is to use XP together with a large collection of open source and/or
free software that does more or less the same things that Microsoft
Office, Adobe Acrobat, Adobe Photoshop do. Surplus P4 systems are cheap
and easy now. Install XP, install the drivers, then install Open
Office, PDF Creator, GIMP, Firefox, and Thunderbird and you have a
Windows-based system that can do most of what people need to do with no
investment in software.

Anyone in eastern MA or southern NH who would like to go in this
direction, please contact me offline. I have solid and reliable
equipment available at fair and reasonable prices... Ben Myers