How to fool IT people at my work...please, IT people, help

[Vanya]

They installed Windows 2000 and did not install Java VM on
my PC. When I try to install other than IE browsers that
have VM, it asks for administrative password. So I can not
install anything from the Web...It won't allowed to
install anything even from CD ROM. Is there any way to get
a Java VM on my PC now?

Please help.........

 

[Scott Harding - MS MVP]

Sounds like you are not an administrator of your machine. You will need to
login as a local administrator to your machine or get your IT people to help
you. Sorry no way around it.

 

[Bob I]

Contact your IT people. They may explain why you are not permitted to
install programs on the PC.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Ask your IT department for assistance.

Bruce Chambers

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[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

They installed Windows 2000 and did not install Java VM on
my PC. When I try to install other than IE browsers that
have VM, it asks for administrative password. So I can not
install anything from the Web...It won't allowed to
install anything even from CD ROM. Is there any way to get
a Java VM on my PC now?

Please help.........

Join the network group as a system administrator. This will
have two advantages:
- You can install anything you like;
- You will get a whole new perspective on why users need
to be restricted in what they can do with their PCs.

 

[Colon Terminus]

They installed Windows 2000 and did not install Java VM on
my PC. When I try to install other than IE browsers that
have VM, it asks for administrative password. So I can not
install anything from the Web...It won't allowed to
install anything even from CD ROM. Is there any way to get
a Java VM on my PC now?

Nope.

 

[John John]

Like heck... please elaborate.

John

Nope.

 

[Torgeir Bakken (MVP)]

- You will get a whole new perspective on why users need
to be restricted in what they can do with their PCs.

Hi

There are several ways to look at that issue (we do not lock down the users
computers).

Here is a Bob Lewis article series in Infoworld about productivity vs lockdown:

By Bob Lewis January 3, 2003; Don't just say no
Before you ban all employee software installs, ask yourself first whether that
will ultimately hurt the company
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/01/03/030106opsurvival_1.html

By Bob Lewis January 10, 2003; Playing the numbers
When reviewing the cost of new technology, be sure not to ignore the benefits
it brings to your company
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/01/10/030113opsurvival_1.html

By Bob Lewis January 17, 2003; Productive flexibility
Instead of banishing all employee software installations, devise a plan that
offers balanced support
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/01/17/030120opsurvival_1.html

By Bob Lewis February 7, 2003; Calculating the value of IT
You don't need a pricey consultant to do this math
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/02/07/06survival_1.html

By Bob Lewis February 14, 2003; Lockdown addendum
A proposal for a modified version of a flexible software install policy
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/02/14/07survival_1.html

By Bob Lewis February 21, 2003; Embrace limited chaos
Total lockdown not only frustrates those you serve but it also impedes
productivity
http://www.infoworld.com/article/03/02/21/08survguide_1.html

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

I'd be more comfortable accepting the contentions of Mr. Lewis's
articles if it weren't so obvious from the opening paragraph of each
article that he has already made up his mind, and is determined not to
be influenced by facts. (Of course, it would also help if he actually
worked in a corporate environment supporting hundreds to thousands of
PCs, rather than as an outside consultant.)

I, on the other hand, can verify from repeated daily personal
experience that the overwhelming majority of corporate PCs users lack
the fundamental knowledge, skills, or even an interest in, installing
only "safe" applications with an aim of increasing productivity.
They're much more interested in using IM to gossip with friends &
family, using the corporate internet access to download music and
videos, or following the latest sports scores than they are in being
productive.

Oh, there are a few workers who can be trusted with more latitude
and privileges, but these are the exception, rather than the rule.


Bruce Chambers

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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
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[Enkidu]

Join the network group as a system administrator. This will
have two advantages:
- You can install anything you like;
- You will get a whole new perspective on why users need
to be restricted in what they can do with their PCs.

Totally agree. This is particularly relevant in situation where people
"float" from PC to PC. The other thing is that users do not care about
licenses. They just want the application.

Cheers,

Cliff

 

[Torgeir Bakken (MVP)]

I'd be more comfortable accepting the contentions of Mr. Lewis's
articles if it weren't so obvious from the opening paragraph of each
article that he has already made up his mind, and is determined not to
be influenced by facts. (Of course, it would also help if he actually
worked in a corporate environment supporting hundreds to thousands of
PCs, rather than as an outside consultant.)

Still, he has a point...

We let all users run as local admins (many thousands of them) without any
big problems, and if a user messes up the computer, it gets re-imaged.
In my view, it is much more important to limit the users network rights
to the "correct" level.

I, on the other hand, can verify from repeated daily personal
experience that the overwhelming majority of corporate PCs users lack
the fundamental knowledge, skills, or even an interest in, installing
only "safe" applications with an aim of increasing productivity.
They're much more interested in using IM to gossip with friends &
family,

We block this with the central firewall.

using the corporate internet access to download music and
videos,

This can be handled by having a internet proxy that blocks this types of sites
and sites that offer tools for this (kazaa etc.), in addition to some
monitoring (we do).

or following the latest sports scores than they are in being
productive.

Well, this can be done by a user that sits at an locked down computer as well
;-)

 

[Colon Terminus]

Well, John John, of course there's a way YOU could install a JavaVM on that
PC, no doubt about that. But listen to the tone of Vanya's original post.
Here's a total know-nothing novice wishing to violate corporate policy and
install God-knows-what on their work machine.

Given the level of expertise shown by Vana, my answer still stands ... nope.

 

[John John]

Oh, OK I see what you meant.

John

Well, John John, of course there's a way YOU could install a JavaVM on that
PC, no doubt about that. But listen to the tone of Vanya's original post.
Here's a total know-nothing novice wishing to violate corporate policy and
install God-knows-what on their work machine.

Given the level of expertise shown by Vana, my answer still stands ... nope.

 

[Guest]

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