Java broken in IE6

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Jim Byrd

Hi David - You can test whether Java is working on your machine at the
following
sites:

http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html
http://www.clan.lib.ri.us/clan/javatest.html
http://www.fitwise.com/testjava.asp (both 1.0 and 1.1 and what's
installed)
http://coglab.wadsworth.com/support/browsercheck.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/webct/browser_detect.html

and you can test Javascript here:
http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm


There is good information concerning all aspects of the Java situation here:
http://www.javatester.org/installing.html

Be aware, however, that after Dec 31, 2007, MS will apparently no longer
be distributing Java or providing any support for Java including
security fixes. See here: http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/ so you
might want to start thinking about the future.

You can get the Sun Java J2SE RunTimes or SDK here:
http://java.sun.com/downloads/index.html (all versions - select using
the dropdown)

Sun also offers an automatic download and install of the 1.4 Java
plug-in here: http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html



For the MS Java VM, you may need to install v.3809 prior to upgrading
to v. 3810 if you didn't previous have MS Java v. 3805 or 3809
installed.

If your OS is Win2000 SP2, SP3 but NOT SP4 then you can download and
install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._510A502BA8F9B6F19230BB2BCCE87D5474AC9DCD.exe
or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com...icrosoft.Q810030_W2K_SP4_5849/Q810030_W2K.exe

For Win2000 SP4, you'll need to re-install v.3805, from here:
http://www.download.support.safetec.net/msjavx86/msjavx86.exe
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/msjavx86.exe


For all other OS's:

Download and install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from one of the links here:
http://ftp.idilis.ro/windows/sp/jvm98/msjavwu.exe, or here:
http://secinfo.huji.ac.il/patches/Win-xp/msjavwu.exe


Then upgrade to v. 3810:

For all OS's except Win2kSP4 obtain v. 3810 here:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631 ,or here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m...l/MSJavWU_8073687b82d41db93f4c2a04af2b34d.exe

For Win2k - SP2, SP3 - you can also obtain v. 3810 from Microsoft here:
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-9b18-423356321682/Q816093_W2K_SP4_X86_EN.exe

For Win2kSP4, to get 3810 from Microsoft you now have to get Q816093 from
Windows Update Catalog - use the entry for Windows 2000 SP4 (this seems to
be the only Win2k option that has it) and then find 816093 in the list. You
can find directions for using the Windows Update Catalog functions here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;323166. (I am
informed by Torgeir Bakken, MVP, that if you rename the downloaded file from
here: http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631 to
msjavwu.exe it will then also work for SP4.)

Both Java VM's can co-exist on your machine quite nicely. Just select
which one you want to use in Tools|Internet Options|Advanced and restart
all IE browsers. Here, courtesy of Michel Gallant, MVP Security, is a
tiny utility which allows you to toggle and view status of your current
Java VM vendor associated with IE:
http://www.jensign.com/JavaScience/SelectIEJVM/index.html

A note from Mitch Gallant:

"One note about the JVM Selector utility:
If/when you install a new version of Sun J2SE, you need to manually
select to have Sun JVM as default JVM for IE (in install), or after
install
via the JavaPlugin control panel. This generates the necessary win32
registry
entries, which must be present for the utility to know about JavaPlugin.
After that, the utility should work properly."


--
Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



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David Coombes

Since installing BTYahoo! connection software, Java is broken on my Win2k
machine and I can't find any solution. For example on the Windows support
forum if I try to access a child message I see Javascript.void(0); at the
bottom and nothing happens. Most pages are loaded but with errors, usually
this being an "expected ';'" error or "object expected".

The series of events are...
1. Machine worked fine
2. BT Internet 'upgraded' to BTYahoo and I was informed an upgrade of my
software was needed. Reluctantly agreed and installed software.
3. BTYahoo browser is lame so I switch to IE6. Java no longer works
4. Uninstall BTYahoo software with add/remove programs. Java still broken
5. Try lower security settings, checking Java scripting is enabled. Java
still broken
6. Install SUN's Java VM. Java still broken.
7. Install latest BTYahoo software. Java still broken
8. Uninstalled BTYahoo with purge of registry. Java still broken (note after
removing the software there's still loads on my HD. Scummy old ISPs messing
up my system :( )
9. Tried to uninstall IE6 so I could reinstall, but there's no option to
uninstall IE6 even after removing all updates and fixes.
10. Restored my system to a backup of a clean system install created when I
installed Win2k on my new HD in January. Java STILL broken.

Is there any fix other than a system reinstall? BTYahoo's 'support' has only
gone over the basics (set security options, uninstall software, reinstall
latest software) for the past month despite my telling them every message
I've done all this.

Thanks

David Coombes
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George Hester

Make sure you test your javascripting (is the issue here NOT JAVA) with your Anti Virus off that is not being used at all anywhere and your firewall is down. This is a known issue of recent enhancements in Norton and McAfee. In fact with these disabled the issue can still occur. So you must disable them from "watching" your browser then disable them entirely. Then test the javascripting.
 
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George Hester

I see you are into protecting yourself from web pages. This is actually not necessary with anything else other then what you have right in your system. For example if I want to make sure I get no popups I disable scripting (all 3) in IE Properties | Security | Custom level... | Scritpting. If I want to disable java I do that in the same place under Java.

If I don't want to be bothered by all that then I get a Anti Virus package and\or a firewall. Then I write to newsgroups crying that nothing works anymore.

Something is disabling your Javascripting (NOT JAVA) that is what you need to stop. Anything "watching" the web pages you visit is a prime candidate for this issue. Note disabling and or uninstalling these AV packages is sometimes not sufficient. ESPECIALLY Norton. In that case if you cannot fix the issue then reinstall and throw Norton away.
 
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David Coombes

Okay, I tried the Java tests and they all run, so what could be causing
these internet functional errors? It not my antivirus because, at this point
in time since reverting to the original install, no antivirus is running!
Could it be my firewall? I use Agnitum Outpost which has per-application
blocking and there are a few listed that I haven't enabled 'coz I don't know
what they are. These are...

LSASS.EXE
FSG4104.EXE
MSTASK.EXE

I'm loathe to pass any of these without knowing that they're safe/essential.

David
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David Coombes

Just searched for info on my Firewall settings and sorted these out. I
blocked LSASS.exe as I read it was a virus, but it's also a system .exe as I
just found, so checking I had the non-virus version I've enabled it. The
'Tricker' FSG was removed a long time ago from my system and I don't use the
scheduler at all, but removed that from the banned list also. None of this
has fixed my internet woes though :(

David
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