home network problem

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Guest

My son is away at school and set up a network between his laptop and desktop
to share important files and printer. It worked for a couple months and then
all of a sudden the computers did not show up in network places on either
computer. It was like it was never set up. We started all over and ran the
wizard from the desktop and created a disk for the laptop. Both computers are
running win xp home. All the names are correctly entered the workgroup name
is the same. File and printer sharing is checked. The option checked was
through a residential gateway. The actual setup is as follows: he is in an
apt. at school. The cable comes in and goes to the high speed modem. The
modem feeds each room through a wall outlet. He is plugged from the wall
outlet to a hub. From the hub he connected both computers with a cable. He
has use of internet on both computers. The computers do not see each other.
As mentioned earlier it worked before for a couple of months. Does anyone
have any insight or something I can have him try to do? Both computers are
using Norton systemworks 2005 for security.
 
C

Chuck

My son is away at school and set up a network between his laptop and desktop
to share important files and printer. It worked for a couple months and then
all of a sudden the computers did not show up in network places on either
computer. It was like it was never set up. We started all over and ran the
wizard from the desktop and created a disk for the laptop. Both computers are
running win xp home. All the names are correctly entered the workgroup name
is the same. File and printer sharing is checked. The option checked was
through a residential gateway. The actual setup is as follows: he is in an
apt. at school. The cable comes in and goes to the high speed modem. The
modem feeds each room through a wall outlet. He is plugged from the wall
outlet to a hub. From the hub he connected both computers with a cable. He
has use of internet on both computers. The computers do not see each other.
As mentioned earlier it worked before for a couple of months. Does anyone
have any insight or something I can have him try to do? Both computers are
using Norton systemworks 2005 for security.

Phil,

The problem could well be a misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, or
other security component, like NSW. There are several other possibilities too,
and any might be the cause of his problem. Read this article with an open mind.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

Have him look at "browstat status", "ipconfig /all", "net config server", and
"net config workstation", from each computer, and diagnose the problem (or post
them here). Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
 
G

Guest

Hi Chuck. I have been doing alot of reading into the info you sent. I have a
question. How would you go about finding out if a 3rd party firewall were on
the computer? When checking in security it just has windows firewall on (both
computers).
 
G

Guest

I am having the same problem-see my other post above. By reading some of
Chuck's information, my max logged on users is 5, with the printer etc, I may
have reached this limit. How do I increase the limit to say 10.

Regards
Brad
 
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Chuck

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Chuck

Hi Chuck. I have been doing alot of reading into the info you sent. I have a
question. How would you go about finding out if a 3rd party firewall were on
the computer? When checking in security it just has windows firewall on (both
computers).

Phil,

If you suspect that you have an unknown personal firewall, you're going to have
to look in several lists, for unrecognised entries.

Look in active processes.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/watching-what-your-computer-is-doing.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/watching-what-your-computer-is-doing.html

Look in startup processes.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/essential-tools-for-desktop-and.html#Autoruns>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/essential-tools-for-desktop-and.html#Autoruns

Look in LSP / Winsock.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html

But use the other diagnostics that I suggested. They should narrow things down
a bit.
 
G

Guest

I think I might be messing something up. I downloaded browstat to my docs,
extracted with winzip to my docs. I opened the command prompt and typed
browstat status >c:\browstat.txt and it said "browstat is not recognized as
an internal or external command, operable program or batch file" The same
message when I tried browstat listwfw >>c:\browstat.t. When I tried notepad,
the notepad did open. Where might I be missing something?
 
C

Chuck

I think I might be messing something up. I downloaded browstat to my docs,
extracted with winzip to my docs. I opened the command prompt and typed
browstat status >c:\browstat.txt and it said "browstat is not recognized as
an internal or external command, operable program or batch file" The same
message when I tried browstat listwfw >>c:\browstat.t. When I tried notepad,
the notepad did open. Where might I be missing something?

Phil,

That's a simple matter. Note my article, with reference to the Path.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/command-window.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/command-window.html
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-path-and-making-custom-program.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-path-and-making-custom-program.html

And please type your replies after mine, for both our benefits.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
 
G

Guest

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Thank you,
Phil


Chuck said:
Hi Chuck. Using the system wizard I added c:\utility at the end exactly as shown. I created a folder in my docs called utility and put the browstat file in it. When I open the run, cmd it opens a command box with heading "C:windows\system32\cmd.exe"
In the black portion it has C:\documents and settings\Phil> at that point I
type "browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" and I still get is not recognized as
internal or external command. Here is a copy of my new path
"%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;C:\Program
Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\DLLShared;C:\Utility". I have read and
re-read the article but am embarrassed to say I am still missing something.
Please note I am trying all this on my system before getting on the phone
long distance with my son to help him.

Thank you again.
Phil
 
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Chuck

In the black portion it has C:\documents and settings\Phil> at that point I
type "browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" and I still get is not recognized as
internal or external command. Here is a copy of my new path
"%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\System32\Wbem;C:\Program
Files\Common Files\Roxio Shared\DLLShared;C:\Utility". I have read and
re-read the article but am embarrassed to say I am still missing something.
Please note I am trying all this on my system before getting on the phone
long distance with my son to help him.

Thank you again.
Phil

OK, Phil, no problem.

What folder is browstat.exe in? You got Path right. If you put browstat.exe
into "C:\OtherFolder", type "C:\OtherFolder\browstat status" to test it, then
"C:\OtherFolder\browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" to run it.
 
G

Guest

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Thank you,
Phil


Chuck said:
OK, Phil, no problem.

What folder is browstat.exe in? You got Path right. If you put browstat.exe
into "C:\OtherFolder", type "C:\OtherFolder\browstat status" to test it, then
"C:\OtherFolder\browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" to run it.

When looking in the windows explorer the browstat file is in
Mycomputer>local disk C>documents and settings>and in docs and settings their
is (all users), (phil) and the folder I made (utility) The all users and Phil
have a + sign before them, the utility does not.

Thank you,
Phil
 
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Chuck

When looking in the windows explorer the browstat file is in
Mycomputer>local disk C>documents and settings>and in docs and settings their
is (all users), (phil) and the folder I made (utility) The all users and Phil
have a + sign before them, the utility does not.

You're half way there, Phil. If you'll reread the Path article, you'll note
that you want to put the software into the folder added to the path. Since you
added "C:\Utility" to the Path, you need to move browstat.exe into "C:\Utility".
 
G

Guest

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Thank you,
Phil


Chuck said:
You're half way there, Phil. If you'll reread the Path article, you'll note
that you want to put the software into the folder added to the path. Since you
added "C:\Utility" to the Path, you need to move browstat.exe into "C:\Utility".

Hi Chuck. I did put browstat in the utility folder when I created the
folder. With that said i still have the problem.
 
C

Chuck

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Thank you,
Phil




Hi Chuck. I did put browstat in the utility folder when I created the
folder. With that said i still have the problem.

Phil,

What is the precise path that Utility is in? Your earlier message said
the browstat file is in Mycomputer>local disk C>documents and settings>and in
docs and settings their is (all users), (phil) and the folder I made (utility)

That sounds like its "C:\>documents and settings\utility". But the Path
addition puts it as "C:\utility". Do you see the difference?
 
G

Guest

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Thank you,
Phil


Chuck said:
Phil,

What is the precise path that Utility is in? Your earlier message said
the browstat file is in Mycomputer>local disk C>documents and settings>and in
docs and settings their is (all users), (phil) and the folder I made (utility)

That sounds like its "C:\>documents and settings\utility". But the Path
addition puts it as "C:\utility". Do you see the difference?

I would say the path is C:\documents and settings\utility. In explorer I
open the + on my computer, open the + on local C, open the + on docs and
settings and it is indented below with no plus sign before it just below the
all users and Phil. So hopefully I am assuming correctly. When I open the
command from start and run, inside it already has "C:\Documents and
settings\Phil> then I typed the browstat command. I also tried changing the
utility location to inside the +Phil under docs and settings. That reacted
the same. I know I must be very close but a minute detail that I am missing
is making a world of difference, but i'm willing to keep plugging if you
don't mind it. I'm always up to being schooled and learning something.

Thank you,
Phil
 
G

Guest

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Thank you,
Phil


Phil said:
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Thank you,
Phil




I would say the path is C:\documents and settings\utility. In explorer I
open the + on my computer, open the + on local C, open the + on docs and
settings and it is indented below with no plus sign before it just below the
all users and Phil. So hopefully I am assuming correctly. When I open the
command from start and run, inside it already has "C:\Documents and
settings\Phil> then I typed the browstat command. I also tried changing the
utility location to inside the +Phil under docs and settings. That reacted
the same. I know I must be very close but a minute detail that I am missing
is making a world of difference, but i'm willing to keep plugging if you
don't mind it. I'm always up to being schooled and learning something.

Thank you,
Phil

My path is definately C:\documents and settings\utility, so does that mean I
need to go to the variable value and change it from C:\utlity to C:\documents
and settings\utility? When I open the cmd why does it have C:\documents and
settings\Phil> ? Isn't that already the wrong path?
 
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Chuck

:

My path is definately C:\documents and settings\utility, so does that mean I
need to go to the variable value and change it from C:\utlity to C:\documents
and settings\utility? When I open the cmd why does it have C:\documents and
settings\Phil> ? Isn't that already the wrong path?

Phil,

You can put your custom utilities wherever you like. You just put them where
the Path entry says they are. I use "C"\Utility" because it's short and easy to
remember. You can also change the folder referenced when the command window is
opened. Just be consistent.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-path-and-making-custom-program.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-path-and-making-custom-program.html
 
G

Guest

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Thank you,
Phil


Chuck said:
Phil,

You can put your custom utilities wherever you like. You just put them where
the Path entry says they are. I use "C"\Utility" because it's short and easy to
remember. You can also change the folder referenced when the command window is
opened. Just be consistent.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-path-and-making-custom-program.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-path-and-making-custom-program.html

So sorry Chuck, still not getting it. On the command when I open the box it
says C:\documents and settings\Phil> I the typed c:\utlity\browstat status
c:\browstat.txt then hit enter. Said the directory name is invalid. I
tried it without the c:\utility before the browstat and it says not an
internal or external etc......

Thank you,
Phil
 
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Chuck

So sorry Chuck, still not getting it. On the command when I open the box it
says C:\documents and settings\Phil> I the typed c:\utlity\browstat status
tried it without the c:\utility before the browstat and it says not an
internal or external etc......

Thank you,
Phil

Keep trying, Phil. Move browstat.exe into C:\Utility folder. Then run
"browstat status". If that works do "browstat status >c:\browstat.txt", then
"notepad c:\browstat.txt".
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/command-window.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/command-window.html
 

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