Hibernate - "Insufficient system resources exists to complete the API"

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BillW50

Since upgrading my laptop from 1GB to 2GB, I now sometimes receive the
following error whenever I try to hibernate.

Windows - System Error
Insufficient system resources exists to complete the API.

Once this error pops up in the system tray, hibernation option isn't
available again until a system reboot. Seems to happen about 50% of the time
when you try to hibernate. Any ideas? I'm thinking about downgrading the
memory to 1.5GB. LOL

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Bill
Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)
MX6124 (laptop) w/2GB
Windows XP Home SP2 (120GB HD)
Intel(r) 910GML (64MB shared)
 
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Gerry

Bill

The computer occasionally does not hibernate and you receive an
"Insufficient System Resources Exist to Complete the API" error message
in Windows XP with Service Pack 2, in Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005,
or in Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=909095

It would appear that you may not have installed the SP3 update? Why not?

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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BillW50

In R. McCarty on Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:26:56 -0400:

Thanks McCarty! Seems to have done the trick. Now Aston2 Panel
(www.astonshell.com) crashes whenever I press my power button and I have it
set to ask me what to do. I don't know if it was doing this before the fix
or not. Always something, eh?

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Bill
Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)
MX6124 (laptop) w/2GB
Windows XP Home SP2 (120GB HD)
Intel(r) 910GML (64MB shared)
 
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BillW50

In Gerry typed on Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:38:34 +0100:
Bill

The computer occasionally does not hibernate and you receive an
"Insufficient System Resources Exist to Complete the API" error
message in Windows XP with Service Pack 2, in Windows XP Tablet PC
Edition 2005, or in Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=909095

It would appear that you may not have installed the SP3 update? Why
not?

Hi Gerry! When I was younger in the 80's and 90's. I was a big believer in
using the latest code. But now I am older and wiser and I let the younger
ones screw up their computers first. And I sit waiting until the manufacture
gets most of the bugs out first before I try it (if ever). ;-)

For example, I never had a computer take SP2 well at all. As it caused all
sorts of problems installing on a SP1 machine (I quit after failures on 4
different machines). I hated it. But later you could buy Windows XP install
discs with SP2 already installed and they work just fine. Even on those same
machines.

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Bill
Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)
MX6124 (laptop) w/2GB
Windows XP Home SP2 (120GB HD)
Intel(r) 910GML (64MB shared)
 
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Gerry

Bill

I am also cautious but most of the answers regarding SP3 are now known,
What year was your computer new?

My point was made because Hotfix 909095 is in the SP3 update.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
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BillW50

In
Gerry said:
Bill

I am also cautious but most of the answers regarding SP3 are now
known, What year was your computer new?

My point was made because Hotfix 909095 is in the SP3 update.

Hi Gerry. Yes so true. Well I use 4 laptops mostly, I have more. But the
four I use the most are two Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) and two Asus EEE PC
('08 era). All four use Windows XP SP2.

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Bill
Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)
MX6124 (laptop) w/2GB
Windows XP Home SP2 (120GB HD)
Intel(r) 910GML (64MB shared)
 
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BillW50

In
BillW50 said:
In R. McCarty on Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:26:56 -0400:

Thanks McCarty! Seems to have done the trick. Now Aston2 Panel
(www.astonshell.com) crashes whenever I press my power button and I
have it set to ask me what to do. I don't know if it was doing this
before the fix or not. Always something, eh?

Oops! It came back again last night. Although I was running Aston2 Panels. I
don't know if it reoccurs with the stock desktop yet.

--
Bill
Gateway Celeron M 370 (1.5GHZ)
MX6124 (laptop) w/2GB
Windows XP Home SP2 (120GB HD)
Intel(r) 910GML (64MB shared)
 
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BillW50

BillW50 said:
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Oops! It came back again last night. Although I was running Aston2 Panels. I
don't know if it reoccurs with the stock desktop yet.

It still does it in the stock Windows without Aston. Although if I close
Windows Media Player v10 first, it seems to go into hibernation every
time. Keeping fingers crossed.
 
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BillW50

In R. McCarty typed on Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:26:56 -0400:

Actually later I learned it was anything over 1GB installed. The hotfix
didn't work. Although I finally think I have a fix. And that was to turn off
the pagefile. Now hibernation works very well again. Currently I have 1.5GB
installed and that is about 800kb more than I need anyway.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

In R. McCarty typed on Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:26:56 -0400:

Actually later I learned it was anything over 1GB installed. The hotfix
didn't work. Although I finally think I have a fix. And that was to turn off
the pagefile. Now hibernation works very well again. Currently I have 1.5GB
installed and that is about 800kb more than I need anyway.


I don't know anything about your hibernation problem, and I don't use
hibernation myself. But if you are running with the page file turned
off, it's a bad mistake.

Here's my standard post on this subject:

1. If you don't have a page file, you can't use all the RAM you have.
That's because Windows preallocates virtual memory in anticipation of
a possible need for it, even though that allocated virtual memory may
never be used. Without a page file, that allocation has to be made in
real memory, thus tying up that memory and preventing it from being
used for any purpose.

2. There is never a benefit in not having a page file. If it isn't
needed, it won't be used. Don't confuse allocated memory with used
memory.

If you have more memory than you need, some of the above may not be
completely pertinent to you, but I still think turning off the page
file shouldn't be done, since there is always a possibility that it
may hurt you.
 
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BillW50

In Ken Blake, MVP typed on Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:32:33 -0700:
I don't know anything about your hibernation problem, and I don't use
hibernation myself. But if you are running with the page file turned
off, it's a bad mistake.

Here's my standard post on this subject:

1. If you don't have a page file, you can't use all the RAM you have.
That's because Windows preallocates virtual memory in anticipation of
a possible need for it, even though that allocated virtual memory may
never be used. Without a page file, that allocation has to be made in
real memory, thus tying up that memory and preventing it from being
used for any purpose.

2. There is never a benefit in not having a page file. If it isn't
needed, it won't be used. Don't confuse allocated memory with used
memory.

If you have more memory than you need, some of the above may not be
completely pertinent to you, but I still think turning off the page
file shouldn't be done, since there is always a possibility that it
may hurt you.

Hi Ken! Yes I understand your concern if you don't have enough RAM, turning
off the pagefile will only makes things worse. And I would have virtually no
experience with turning off pagefiles, except I own five Asus EeePCs
nowadays and having a pagefile on SSD (solid state drive) is a really *big*
disaster!

So virtually everybody with SSDs and running Windows XP turns off the
pagefile. Although you *must* have enough RAM to do so. Otherwise Windows
will stop and pop up error messages. The reason why you would want to turn
off the pagefile with SSDs are:

1) SSD are very slow to write compared to hard drives. Thus performance goes
downhill very fast. Although they can be faster than hard drives when
reading. One trick is to use MS EWF, which routes all writes to the SSD to
the RAM instead. Thus you can save it all just before shutting down or
ignore all writes together and just dump them.

2) SSD writes reduces their life. The number that gets thrown around a lot
is 100,000 times. So having anything written to a SSD over and over again
unnecessary will just shorten their existence.

Okay fine I know all of this. But I have later expanded this to my other
computers as well. And watching your memory usage, if you never run out... I
never saw one single problem (and the performance is great). And since the
most RAM I ever I had in use was still less than 1GB, that is all I ever
needed for a Windows XP machine so far. If you run something like Firefox
with all of its memory leaks, you will probably run out of memory very
quickly. But I rarely use FF for anything (or other memory leakers), so it
isn't important to me.

The reason for a pagefile is to give your OS and applications more RAM then
you actually have installed in your system. This was a very good idea back
in its day, since RAM prices were high and motherboards couldn't accept
enough RAM to run everything anyway. Although things are changing and the
need for pagefiles and virtual memory days are numbered. We don't have such
limitations anymore. And more and more people are realizing that they don't
need one. Plus it only slows down your system when you don't need it anyway.
 

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