Hi Everyone: and Defender

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bill said:
Hi Everyone:

Since AVG announced they won't support the free edition next year, I will
uninstall it.

Question is will MSFT's "Defender" program do the trick in protecting my
WINXP Home Edition with SER P2?

I have heard from some that it is a great program for security?

tks again


bill

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Defender is not an anti virus program but an anti malware program. MS'
anti virus program is called One Care and is not free. I use and
recommend Avast!, free from www.avast.com/

Alias
 
If I'm not mistaken it is more
of an anti spyware than an anti
virus.

Unfortunately, I didn't like it. It failed to find what the
others eventually found. And the update
feature was dysfunctional as well. So I eventually
uninstalled it and grateful that i did.

But in either case, it was
not as proficient as a third party
antiviral whose bread n butter
is to achieve excellences in fighting
contaminations. And I have used
many of them at one time or another.

Ultimately I concluded that my favorite
is the spyware terminator with
the clam antivirus add in. It loads in memory
as in real time.

And if something get by then spybot is a great
standby that sweeps the system when i need it
too. Or I can log into Microsoft's one care
and do an online sweep if needed. Or I can
use Netscape and their advance security features
if i want to double check my systems interaction
with the internet.....

Others may provide you with their favorites as
well.
 
Alias said:
Defender is not an anti virus program but an anti malware program. MS'
anti virus program is called One Care and is not free. I use and
recommend Avast!, free from www.avast.com/

Alias
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It is my understanding that Grisoft is trying to get everyone over to
AVG7.5 their new product. As with 7.1 there is the pro version and the
free version of 7.5. AVG 7.5 has a 30 day trail for the full version. if
at that time you don't want to pay for the full version some of the
features of the full version will be turned off but you will still have
a working AVG antivirus.
http://www4.grisoft.com/doc/7/lng/ww/tpl/tpl01?num=59#faq_59
caver1
 
DatabaseBen said:
If I'm not mistaken it is more
of an anti spyware than an anti
virus.

Unfortunately, I didn't like it. It failed to find what the
others eventually found. And the update
feature was dysfunctional as well. So I eventually
uninstalled it and grateful that i did.

But in either case, it was
not as proficient as a third party
antiviral whose bread n butter
is to achieve excellences in fighting
contaminations. And I have used
many of them at one time or another.

Ultimately I concluded that my favorite
is the spyware terminator with
the clam antivirus add in. It loads in memory
as in real time.

And if something get by then spybot is a great
standby that sweeps the system when i need it
too. Or I can log into Microsoft's one care
and do an online sweep if needed. Or I can
use Netscape and their advance security features
if i want to double check my systems interaction
with the internet.....

Others may provide you with their favorites as
well.
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AVG 7.5 is an antivirus. works fine with updates on my machine.
Grissoft also has an antispyware which is a separate product;AVG
Anti-SpyWare, which was Ewido.
 
caver1 said:
It is my understanding that Grisoft is trying to get everyone over to
AVG7.5 their new product. As with 7.1 there is the pro version and the
free version of 7.5. AVG 7.5 has a 30 day trail for the full version. if
at that time you don't want to pay for the full version some of the
features of the full version will be turned off but you will still have
a working AVG antivirus.
http://www4.grisoft.com/doc/7/lng/ww/tpl/tpl01?num=59#faq_59
caver1
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I'm sure that AVG is a good program. I just don't care for the interface.

Alias
 
Alias said:
I'm sure that AVG is a good program. I just don't care for the interface.

Alias
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that is why there are several out there. not everyone likes the same
thing. I have nothing against avast, just got use to AVG.
 
bill said:
Hi Everyone:

Since AVG announced they won't support the free edition next year, I will
uninstall it.

Question is will MSFT's "Defender" program do the trick in protecting my
WINXP Home Edition with SER P2?

I have heard from some that it is a great program for security?

tks again


bill

(this note was posted on another newsgroup also.
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AVG didn't announce "support the free edition next year...." What was
announced was that they wouldn't support the free 7.1 edition. It has been
replaced with the 7.5 edition. When providing a free product, they only wish
to support one edition. Also the former anti-spyware program Ewido has been
rebranded as AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5. Both are available from:
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1

If you have AVG Anti-virus 7.1, when you go to install AVG Anti-virus 7.5,
perform a "Repair Install" when prompted.
 
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bill said:
Hi Everyone:
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Hi, Doctor Nick!

Please fix your system clock - you are posting from three months in the
future.

Since AVG announced they won't support the free edition next year, I
will uninstall it.

Question is will MSFT's "Defender" program do the trick in protecting
my WINXP Home Edition with SER P2?

I have heard from some that it is a great program for security?

tks again


bill

(this note was posted on another newsgroup also.
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FYI - if you need to post to multiple groups, it's best to crosspost
instead, by posting a single message to a handful of relevant groups
(separate the NG names with commas) so that everyone can follow the thread.
 
Hi Everyone:

Since AVG announced they won't support the free edition next year, I will
uninstall it.

Question is will MSFT's "Defender" program do the trick in protecting my
WINXP Home Edition with SER P2?

I have heard from some that it is a great program for security?
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You're a bit off in your understanding on three points. First AVG version
7,1 is being discontinued in January, replaced by AVG 7.5 which is still
free. Upgrade to version 7.5.

Second AVG is an anti-virus program, Defender is for non viral malware. You
need both types. And for non viral malware no one program can catch
everything. You need a combination of programs. Defender is good to have
but you should also have Ad-Aware SE Personal and SpyBot S&D.
SpywareBlaster and BHO Demon are also good additions. See these links for
dealing with malware.

THE PARASITE FIGHT
Finding, Removing & Protecting Yourself From Scumware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm

Richard Harper's Guide to Cleaning Pests
http://rgharper.mvps.org/cleanit.htm

Malware Removal
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Removing_Malware

Lastly don't cross post - which means posting to two different groups, but
each on individually. If you think it's necessary to post to more than one
group, you should multipost - posting to both groups at the same time.
Crossposting fragments the thread, and creates more work since many of the
same folks see both posts. Also answers in one thread are not seen in the
other so some people might not benefit.
 
If I'm not mistaken it is more
of an anti spyware than an anti
virus.
Click to expand...

Defender is not an anti-virus program, it's for non viral malware.
Unfortunately, I didn't like it. It failed to find what the
others eventually found. And the update
feature was dysfunctional as well. So I eventually
uninstalled it and grateful that i did.
Click to expand...

Non one non-viral malware program catches everything. That's why a
combination of such programs are needed. Nor does one anti-virus for that
matter, however it's not a good idea to have more than one AV program
running memory resident. Having a second AV program to do a scan
occasionally is ok.
But in either case, it was
not as proficient as a third party
antiviral whose bread n butter
is to achieve excellences in fighting
contaminations.
Click to expand...

Of course it's not, since it's not an anti-virus program.

And I have used
many of them at one time or another.

Ultimately I concluded that my favorite
is the spyware terminator with
the clam antivirus add in. It loads in memory
as in real time.
Click to expand...

Again, you should not rely on one non viral malware program, however good
you think it might me. No one program catches it all.
And if something get by then spybot is a great
standby that sweeps the system when i need it
too.
Click to expand...

Yes Spybot S&D should be run regularly as should Ad-Aware.

Or I can log into Microsoft's one care
 
Defender is *not* an anti-virus program.

And, if you had actually read the information on the Grisoft site, AVG Free
is *not* going to be discontinued.

AVG 7.1 is going out of support. AVG 7.5 is now available, both the Free
and Paid version.

http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1
 
bill said:
Hi Everyone:

Since AVG announced they won't support the free edition next year, I
will uninstall it.

Question is will MSFT's "Defender" program do the trick in protecting
my WINXP Home Edition with SER P2?

I have heard from some that it is a great program for security?
Click to expand...


Read the following carefully.

"New Free Anti-Virus
GRISOFT is announcing a new version of the AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition. This
new 7.5 version with improved performance and full compatibility with the
latest Windows Vista version is available. Users that are using AVG Free 7.1
will be provided with a specific dialog, within the next few weeks, with the
opportunity to choose the right option fulfilling their needs. AVG Free 7.1
version will be discontinued on 15th of Jan 2007."


They will continue to provide a free 7.5 version. It's AVG Free 7.1 which is
being phased out.

Windows Defender in combination with AVG and a firewall of some sort works
quite well.
 
bill said:
Hi Everyone:

Since AVG announced they won't support the free edition next year,
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I don't use AVG, so take what I say in this paragraph with a grain of salt.
But it's my understanding that although there is (will be?) a new paid-for
version, they will continue to support the free version.

I
will uninstall it.

Question is will MSFT's "Defender" program do the trick in protecting
my WINXP Home Edition with SER P2?
Click to expand...


No. It alone is nowhere near sufficient. See below.

I have heard from some that it is a great program for security?
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There are two broad categories of malware:

1. Viruses, worms, trojans, etc.

2. Spyware, adware, etc. (sometimes called "non-viral malware").

Windows Defender is a product that provides protection against the second
kind of malware only. Running it is fine, but you still need anti-virus
software. If you don't want to stick with AVG, there are several other
excellent freeware anti-virus products. I personally use and like Avast, but
there other good choices too. I'll leave recommending them to others who
have direct experience with them.

Also, regarding protection against non-viral malware, Windows Defender alone
really isn't good enough either. Note what Eric Howes, who has done
extensive testing on Anti-Spyware products, states:

"No single anti-spyware scanner removes everything. Even the best-performing
anti-spyware scanner in these tests missed fully one quarter of the
"critical" files and Registry entries" See
http://spywarewarrior.com/asw-test-guide.htm

So fine, run Windows Defender, but also run other anti-spyware programs.

My personal choices of security software (all free) are

Avast Anti-virus
Zone Alarm Firewall
Spyware Blaster
Spybot Search and Destroy
Adaware
Windows Defender
 
A big tks everyone so great support here. I installed the 7.5 edition and
will look forward to great product again from Grisoft.

bill
 
I was not aware of One
Care.
Has it been around for a while?
What is its price?
Do you purchase it in the retail stores or directly from Microssoft?
How it compares in how it does its work with the McAfee and Norton programs?
 
From: "bill" <[email protected]>

| Hi Everyone:
|
| Since AVG announced they won't support the free edition next year, I will
| uninstall it.
|
| Question is will MSFT's "Defender" program do the trick in protecting my
| WINXP Home Edition with SER P2?
|
| I have heard from some that it is a great program for security?
|
| tks again
|
| bill
|
| (this note was posted on another newsgroup also.
|

First fix you clock !

It is NOT March yet !

Second, Grisoft will eplec the version, not drop it.

Third, Windows Defender is anti malware of the non-viral type and will NOT replace AVG.

Finally, there are anti virus News Groups for such questions. Please use them !

In the Microsoft hierarchy it is;
 
I was not aware of One
Care.
Has it been around for a while?
What is its price?
Do you purchase it in the retail stores or directly from Microssoft?
How it compares in how it does its work with the McAfee and Norton
programs?
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I would not recommend either Norton or McAfee. They are too resource
intensive and can cause problems down the line. I also don't care much for
OneCare. It needs work as an AV program. There are other good AV programs
out there, some of which are free or low cost. Examples are AVG (free),
Avast (free), Anti-Vir, and Ca eTrust.

For firewalls there is Sunbelt Software's Kerio Personal Firewall, Zone
Alarm and Comodo Personal Firewall.
 
If you want to continue using AVG just download the newer version AVG 7.5.
AVG is not discontinuing AVG just version 7.1
 
Very nice "welcome" from David.

Regarding One Care - it provides the following: Antivirus, Antispyware,
Firewall capability, Performance tune-ups (Defrag, disk cleanup, etc.) and
Data backup and restore. Included installation of Windows Defender.

Data backup is a file backup feature resembling the same offered by Acronis.
All features can be run manually or by schedule. One feature I do not like
is in during a tune-up defrag and the antivirus utilities are included and
take time.

License permits installation on three computers, update is automatic via
Microsoft update. Retail price is about $45 however often on sale
(rebates). A interesting feature of a version I have state activation
should be done by December 2008 ()right 2008).
 
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