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P

Peter Nolan

Hello,

David H. Lipman from the States and Ian Kenefick who is from Ireland, like
me, appeared to offer me help to clean a few instances of malware from my PC
using their programs. Both failed to do so. They collaborate or so they tell
me. Dave stopped replying to me out of the blue for no obvious reason and at
the risk of sounding like a moaner I spent many hours using his approach.
They both seemed more interested in looking at the logs their programs
compile than helping me.
I can do without the hassle they gave me getting nowhere in the end and
still unable to use IE6 because of a malware pop-up.
There are no free lunches and these two gentlemen seem to have figured out a
way of extracting a price for their so-called free help.
I asked Ian not to contact me again yesterday but Ian will not be put off
like that and I received an email from him this morning preaching to me
about the virtues of patience unable to see how patient I was dealing with
Dave and him.
I can't be sure what they are playing at but helping people clean a PC in an
efficient way isn't what they are really about and this is based on my
personal experience dealing with them and this charade has been going on
since I contacted Dave on the 8th of November last over a month ago so, Ian,
don't preach to me about the virtue of patience.

No free lunches,

Peter Nolan.
Dublin.
 
K

kurt wismer

Peter Nolan wrote:
[snip]
I can't be sure what they are playing at but helping people clean a PC in an
efficient way isn't what they are really about and this is based on my
personal experience dealing with them and this charade has been going on
since I contacted Dave on the 8th of November last over a month ago so, Ian,
don't preach to me about the virtue of patience.

they aren't playing at anything... your case turned out to be more
difficult than most to resolve... i'm sorry they failed to give you a
magic bullet, but please don't add insult to injury... if you want a
more expedient solution to an ill-defined problem then may i suggest
backing up your important data and rebuilding your system from scratch
(and make sure you take proper precautions to harden it before
connecting to the net)... it's not a great solution in general, but it
should be more expedient than the diagnostic process has proven to be...
 
M

Max Wachtel

(e-mail address removed) AKA Peter Nolan on 12/12/2005 in
Hello,

David H. Lipman from the States and Ian Kenefick who is from Ireland,
like me, appeared to offer me help to clean a few instances of
malware from my PC using their programs. Both failed to do so. They
collaborate or so they tell me. Dave stopped replying to me out of
the blue for no obvious reason and at the risk of sounding like a
moaner I spent many hours using his approach. They both seemed more
interested in looking at the logs their programs compile than helping
me. I can do without the hassle they gave me getting nowhere in the
end and still unable to use IE6 because of a malware pop-up.
There are no free lunches and these two gentlemen seem to have
figured out a way of extracting a price for their so-called free help.
I asked Ian not to contact me again yesterday but Ian will not be put
off like that and I received an email from him this morning preaching
to me about the virtues of patience unable to see how patient I was
dealing with Dave and him.
I can't be sure what they are playing at but helping people clean a
PC in an efficient way isn't what they are really about and this is
based on my personal experience dealing with them and this charade
has been going on since I contacted Dave on the 8th of November last
over a month ago so, Ian, don't preach to me about the virtue of
patience.

No free lunches,

Peter Nolan.
Dublin.
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I was waiting to hear from you. What "price" did they extract from you?
Have you received a bill? Dealing with a infected system from afar is
not an easy thing to do. The log files report what was found and where.
It seems to me that you need to learn how to protect yourself. I just
read your post from Nov.8. In it you state that you were using a AV
that had not been updated for a while-not a good idea. You failed to
mention what other protection you have installed,if any. You should be
using a more secure browser and e-mail client. You need to do more
research before putting your new box on the net-or you will be back to
square one.

max
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J

James Egan

David H. Lipman from the States and Ian Kenefick who is from Ireland, like
me

That explains a few things. However, these jokes usually have an
Englishman, an Irishman and a Scotsman in them not a Yank and two
Paddys.


Jim.
 
D

David H. Lipman

From: "Peter Nolan" <[email protected]>

| Hello,
|
| David H. Lipman from the States and Ian Kenefick who is from Ireland, like
| me, appeared to offer me help to clean a few instances of malware from my PC
| using their programs. Both failed to do so. They collaborate or so they tell
| me. Dave stopped replying to me out of the blue for no obvious reason and at
| the risk of sounding like a moaner I spent many hours using his approach.
| They both seemed more interested in looking at the logs their programs
| compile than helping me.
| I can do without the hassle they gave me getting nowhere in the end and
| still unable to use IE6 because of a malware pop-up.
| There are no free lunches and these two gentlemen seem to have figured out a
| way of extracting a price for their so-called free help.
| I asked Ian not to contact me again yesterday but Ian will not be put off
| like that and I received an email from him this morning preaching to me
| about the virtues of patience unable to see how patient I was dealing with
| Dave and him.
| I can't be sure what they are playing at but helping people clean a PC in an
| efficient way isn't what they are really about and this is based on my
| personal experience dealing with them and this charade has been going on
| since I contacted Dave on the 8th of November last over a month ago so, Ian,
| don't preach to me about the virtue of patience.
|
| No free lunches,
|
| Peter Nolan.
| Dublin.
|

Mr. Nolan:

You asked for assistance in a News Group and I tried to help in the News Group but then you
emailed me. I'd reply and have to wait 24 hours to get a reply back. This went on for 8 or
9 days until you finally did what was asked.

You had on your PC...
Troj/Torpig-D
http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/trojtorpigd.html
Troj/Torpig-E (Aka; PWS-JA trojan)
http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/trojtorpige.html
Troj/SmallDl-A
http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/trojsmalldla.html
Porn-Dialer.Win32.Frelex
http://www.viruslist.com/en/viruses/encyclopedia?virusid=68145

Frankly I just got tired of the slow responses I got from you. There are no free lunches
but you wanted one.
I did what I could to help you but you were "difficult" to work with.

I have helped numerous people. I can't help everybody but I'll do my best. You are there
and I am here and I can't look over your shoulder. If you had followed my directions and
performed them in a timely fashion then you may have had resolution weeks ago. You weren't
the only one being helped at that time and I'd rather help those who are more willing to
help themselves.

Ian and I have excellent track records but we don't and won't guarantee that everyone will
get 100% statisfaction. Your expectations were too high, your willingness was too low and
your response time was too long.

Please read the thread Ian posted -- "Beware of those who bit the hand that feeds them"
Posted on 12/11.

BTW: No doubt later today you will get a Troll response from PCBUTTS1 or one of his
numerous Sock Puppets asking you to post a HiJack This! log to this News Group, where it
doesn't belong. He will probably have you download software from his web site
www.pcbutts1.com { 216.122.228.48 } which he has no authorization to host. Or maybe he will
have you run software he has plagiarized from another.

He will certainly berate me and Ian and our efforts which you won't see others do.
 
O

optikl

David said:

Dave, anyone who has "Porn-Dialers" on their system ought to be taking
their frustrations out on themselves, not the folks trying to help them.
If it were me, I wouldn't even dignify that "jerk-off" with a response :).
Have a wonderful holiday season and a happy new year!
 
D

David H. Lipman

From: "optikl" <[email protected]>


| Dave, anyone who has "Porn-Dialers" on their system ought to be taking
| their frustrations out on themselves, not the folks trying to help them.
| If it were me, I wouldn't even dignify that "jerk-off" with a response :).
| Have a wonderful holiday season and a happy new year!

Thanx optikl !

Don't forget the Password Stealing Trojan :)

May you and your family have a wondrous Holiday Season and may the New Year bring all the
best this world has to deliver.
 
I

Ian Kenefick

I asked Ian not to contact me again yesterday but Ian will not be put off
like that and I received an email from him this morning preaching to me
about the virtues of patience unable to see how patient I was dealing with
Dave and him.

I am sorry if I was unable to get pissed off at you :)
 
M

Max Wachtel

(e-mail address removed) AKA pcbutts1 on 12/12/2005 in
That link is more appropriate for David ,Leythos, Fitz, and Max.
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NEVER download files from anywhere unless it is from the website of the
developer,manufacturer or some entity you trust. The developers
websites ALWAYS have the most up to date files that haven't been
tampered with by some third party who is "hosting"(read Leeching or
Stealing) those files without permission.



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