HELP PLEASE


N

natsun

I am trying to set up a simple home network via my wife's pc (XP PRO) and my
own (XP HOME).

I did have netgear modem/router and wireless adapter and got connected to
the internet very easily but unable to set up simple home network to share
files and printer.

Both have XP firewall activated now as am trying to use crossover cable and
still getting nowhere! The icon in the system tray shows LAN CONNECTED, but
I run the network wizard etc, put the file on to my key and then run it
again on my wife's pc....... nothing happens........ File sharing is on,
printer sharing is on, and still we cannot see each other machine.

I have new belkin adsl modem/router waiting to be set up, but at the moment
it is staying in the box till I can get the network and simple internet
sharing sorted.

My wife did have norton on hers but removed as it was causing grief...... I
have NOD32 antivirus on mine.

That is the crux of it........ can anyone please help me with this so called
"simple" idea.

Many thanks to anyone who can give simple instructions as to what I am doing
WRONG!!

Steve
 
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V

Vantage

since you're testing with a cross over, try disabling the firewalls for now,
set manual ips, and see if they can ping each other?
 
J

Jon

Since both of your PCs are running XP, you can run the network setup wizard
on each pc, rather than trying to transfer anything via floppy or key
across. Reboot each machine after setting up.

Jon
 
N

natsun

Since both of your PCs are running XP, you can run the network setup
wizard on each pc, rather than trying to transfer anything via floppy or
key across. Reboot each machine after setting up.

Hi Jon,

Tks for that.......

I take it to make sure mine is disconnected from the net and make sure the
workgroup is all the same etc.

Also by what you are saying it doesnt matter one hoot that wife is on xp pro
and mine xp home........ both have sp2.

Steve
 
J

Jon

natsun said:
Hi Jon,

Tks for that.......

I take it to make sure mine is disconnected from the net and make sure the
workgroup is all the same etc.

Also by what you are saying it doesnt matter one hoot that wife is on xp
pro and mine xp home........ both have sp2.

Steve

Yes, the workgroups need to have the same name, as you say, and no, makes no
difference that one is pro and one is home. If you ever use the remote
desktop feature, however, from one to the other, (nifty feature), to use
the other machine remotely, you can only do it from the home machine to the
pro one.

Jon
 
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natsun

since you're testing with a cross over, try disabling the firewalls for
now, set manual ips, and see if they can ping each other?

Tks for the advice....... how do I set manual IPs ?

With the router before it set me as 198.168.0.2 and the wife was .3

I have since done ipconfig on both computers and have the results......
rather than me broadcast it all ........ what should I be looking for?

WIFE - connection specific dns suffix......... mshome.net

MINE - connection specific dns suffix....... BLANK
ip address............. 192.168.0.1
default gateway..... BLANK

the other is ppp adapter bt yahoo.......... dns........ BLANK

gateway is the same as ip address.

Have pinged both pcs and get full replies back........ So should I just run
the network setup wizard on BOTH MACHINES manually, have firewalls OFF and
the internet not connected....... then re-start and see what comes up?

This must seem so basic to people in here, but am really confused ove ip
addresses, gateways etc etc........ apologies to everyone!

Thank you

Steve
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

natsun said:
I am trying to set up a simple home network via my wife's pc (XP PRO)
and my own (XP HOME).

I did have netgear modem/router and wireless adapter and got
connected to the internet very easily but unable to set up simple
home network to share files and printer.


Two points:

1. Make sure that both computers ahave the same workgroup name.

2. If that doesn't fix it, try temporaily turning off the firewalls on both
machines. If that fixes it, you'll need to configure the firewalls to allow
local access.
 
N

natsun

Hi Ken,

Thanks for the reply......
1. Make sure that both computers ahave the same workgroup name.

Done that made no difference, have found that windows turns it back to
MSHOME which is default i believe, so the network is never set properly.....
YUK!
2. If that doesn't fix it, try temporaily turning off the firewalls on
both machines. If that fixes it, you'll need to configure the firewalls to
allow local access.

How do I configure the firewalls to allow local access? never heard of that
one

Thank you so much for your help

Steve
 
J

Jon

Have you managed to resolve this one yet?

I wouldn't try to configure manual ips initially. Just leave everything on
automatic.


The basic procedure is fairly simple and shouldn't require bothering too
much about ip addresses and default gateways.....

Run the network wizard on both machines
Disable the firewall on the lan connection on both computers
Configure the internet connection to allow sharing, if necessary (via
Network Connections)
Reboot, if necessary

and you should be there.

If you're having problems with that then check you have default settings for
services (ie you've not disabled any vital ones)[Control Panel >
Administrative Tools > Services]. Also, sometimes the vestiges of 3rd party
programs can also conflict eg other installed firewalls, so it may be best
to fully uninstall / disable those first.


Jon
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

natsun said:
Hi Ken,

Thanks for the reply......

Done that made no difference, have found that windows turns it back to
MSHOME which is default i believe, so the network is never set
properly..... YUK!


No, Windows doesn't set it back to the default. If it's doing that, you're
doing something wrong. I'm not sure what.


How do I configure the firewalls to allow local access? never heard
of that one


How to do it depends on what firewall you're running. Which is it?

But first try turning them off to see if that's the problem.

Thank you so much for your help


You're welcome. Glad to help.
 
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S

Scott

If you have internet both coms can access the router.

When I set mine up I also had problems with XP network setup wizard.
So I used the software that came with the PCI receiver card to find
the router and set up the network connection that way. Does your PCI
card have software? If so try using that for connection.

HTH Scott
 
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natsun

If you have internet both coms can access the router.

When I set mine up I also had problems with XP network setup wizard.
So I used the software that came with the PCI receiver card to find
the router and set up the network connection that way. Does your PCI
card have software? If so try using that for connection.

Hi ,

I have networking via mobo onboard......... not separate cards, will keep on
trying and see how I go again tomorrow.

Will try and set up the belkin router/modem and get a network that way, my
wife had internet connection but no network was established where we could
share files, pictures etc....... that is all i want to do........ share the
net and files with each other....... hard wire to start or wireless via the
belkin preferably.

Get it established and working before we move to spain

Thanks

Steve
 

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