Folder Views Going Wonky

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Meehan Mydog

Hi,

I have been reorganising all my photos just lately, splitting them up
into individual folders by film-roll. I have also been using the
'Customize this folder' option under the 'view' menu to choose a cover
photo for each folder. I have been doing a lot of them...

I don't really understand what has happened, but Windows has started
converting ALL the folders in My Documents into 'folders for pictures'
and having them display contents as thumbnails. (Somewhat bizarrely, the
ones it doesn't do this to are the ones that actually have pictures in
them...)

But the main problem is that it is randomly choosing cover photos for
all these folders. These cover photos are from _other_ folders, and are
not necessarily contained within the folder (or even the drive) that
they are displayed on.

Can anyone explain what is happening here please, and if there is
anything I can do to sort it out?

I do keep trying to revert all the folders to what they should look
like, but they keep changing back into picture folders with wonky covers.

I'm running Windows XP Media Center, SP3.

Thanks in advance,
Meehan Mydog
Cheshire, UK
 
V

VanguardLH

Meehan said:
Windows has started converting ALL the folders in My Documents into
'folders for pictures' and having them display contents as
thumbnails. But the main problem is that it is randomly choosing
cover photos for all these folders. These cover photos are from
_other_ folders, and are not necessarily contained within the folder
(or even the drive) that they are displayed on.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813711

I set mine to 8000.
 
M

Meehan Mydog

VanguardLH said:

Thanks for that, Vanguard, but the resolution they describe on there is
simply to install the latest Service Pack, (SP3), which I already have.

I doubt that preforming the 'workaround' procedure would make any
further difference, if the 'resolution' has already been done. Would it?

I'm wondering whether to do a search for all 'thumbs.db' files, and
delete them all. Is that likely to help at all?

Regards,
Meehan
 
K

Kate

Meehan Mydog said:
Thanks for that, Vanguard, but the resolution they describe on there
is simply to install the latest Service Pack, (SP3), which I already
have.

I doubt that preforming the 'workaround' procedure would make any
further difference, if the 'resolution' has already been done. Would
it?

I'm wondering whether to do a search for all 'thumbs.db' files, and
delete them all. Is that likely to help at all?

Regards,
Meehan

(XP Home SP3)
I have been having similar (but not identical) trouble with my folder
views too. I followed the link Vanguard recommended and ran Mr Fixit.
This was yesterday, so it is a bit too soon to celebrate, but : so
far, so good...

Kate
 
K

Kate

Kate said:
(XP Home SP3)
I have been having similar (but not identical) trouble with my
folder views too. I followed the link Vanguard recommended and ran
Mr Fixit. This was yesterday, so it is a bit too soon to celebrate,
but : so far, so good...

Kate
Spoke too soon.

Kate
 
V

VanguardLH

Meehan said:
Thanks for that, Vanguard, but the resolution they describe on there is
simply to install the latest Service Pack, (SP3), which I already have.

I doubt that preforming the 'workaround' procedure would make any
further difference, if the 'resolution' has already been done. Would it?

I'm wondering whether to do a search for all 'thumbs.db' files, and
delete them all. Is that likely to help at all?

Read farther down the article. It tells you which registry item to edit
to increase the cache size. I'm suggesting that you INCREASE this value
above its default.

Deleting the thumbs.db file only means you start from scratch regarding
the thumbnail cache. Once you visit the folder again, that .db file
gets repopulated with all the cached copies of thumbnails for all image
files in that folder. Besides, folder settings are saved in the
registry under the Shell[NoRoam] keys as MRU (most recently used)
entries hence the "MRU" in the BagMRU key name or in a desktop.ini file
(see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/812003).

If you don't need to have old thumbnails of image files cached for quick
preview, or don't need to show a bunch of thumbnails and instead just
use the previewer in Windows Explorer's left pane when you select a
file, then perhaps you'll want to disable the "Do not cache thumbnails"
folder option. See:

http://www.tunexp.com/tips/work_with_multimedia/disable_the_thumbnail_cache/
 
V

VanguardLH

By the way, if you don't like editing the registry, you can change the
folder settings cache by using Microsoft's TweakUI powertoy. Go to the
following tree node in TweakUI:

Explorer -> Customizations
 
K

Kate

VanguardLH said:
By the way, if you don't like editing the registry, you can change
the folder settings cache by using Microsoft's TweakUI powertoy. Go
to the following tree node in TweakUI:

Explorer -> Customizations

Thank you, Vanguard. I have made the Registry modifications and am
now going through my folders to reset them. Rather than plough through
them all, though, I think I shall wait to see if everything has
stabilised first. I wonder how the OP is getting on?

Thanks again
Kate
 
M

Meehan Mydog

Kate said:
Thank you, Vanguard. I have made the Registry modifications and am
now going through my folders to reset them. Rather than plough through
them all, though, I think I shall wait to see if everything has
stabilised first. I wonder how the OP is getting on?

Thanks again
Kate

Okay... here I am. Not good news, I'm afraid.

Yes, thanks again, Vanguard.

I had read further, but I assumed that if the 'resolution' had already
been applied, (by the installing of SP3), then the 'workaround' by
tweaking the registry to increase the cache size would already have
taken place, and was thus rendered unnecessary. (ie. That the latter was
just an alternative to the former.)

Kate, thanks for the Fixit tip. I tried it, but unfortunately it made no
difference whatever for me.

Vanguard's mention of the Explorer customization facility in TweakUI
rang a bell with me, and I eagerly opened TweakUI.

The bad news is that when I tried to increase the 'folders to remember'
number, I found that mine was _already_ set to 99999, and I don't think
that it is possible to increase it to any more than that. I clicked on
the up arrow to try, and the displayed value changed to 65,535 for some
mysterious reason (?).

I clicked 'OK' to that anyway, but when I went back to that dialog box
again, it had reverted back to 99999, and my folder views are still
suffering from uncommanded alterations, and are still showing cover
photos that are not photos that are actually inside them.

Although TweakUI is showing that very large value, is it still worth my
while trying the registry edit as well?

Is there any way to find out just exactly how many folders I actually
have at all?

If an external drive (or drives) are connected, do the folders on those
count towards the total? (The size of drives these days means there is
potentially an awful lot of folders to be dealt with.)

The most annoying problem is that the photos being displayed by my
errant folders are ones that are NOT inside the folders in question.
They are not even on the same hard drive, and the external drive they
are on is not connected to my PC.

Where is it that these folders are getting the photos from to display?
Is there some sort of repository file somewhere in the system that I can
delete, so that at least these images disappear completely from my
system? (If I can do that, I don't mind having to re-customize as
necessary.)

Cheers,
Meehan
 
K

Kate

As I reported later, the Fixit didn`t work for me either. You might
want to try the reg mods after all and delete BagMRU and Bags etc.
When I went to do so, I noticed that, besides Bags and BagMRU, I also
had a folder in ShellNoRoam entitled DUIBags. Didn`t know what it
was, so left it alone but, so far, my folder views are behaving
themselves. I hope it lasts.

Kate
 
V

VanguardLH

Meehan said:
Okay... here I am. Not good news, I'm afraid.

Yes, thanks again, Vanguard.

I had read further, but I assumed that if the 'resolution' had already
been applied, (by the installing of SP3), then the 'workaround' by
tweaking the registry to increase the cache size would already have
taken place, and was thus rendered unnecessary. (ie. That the latter was
just an alternative to the former.)

Kate, thanks for the Fixit tip. I tried it, but unfortunately it made no
difference whatever for me.

Vanguard's mention of the Explorer customization facility in TweakUI
rang a bell with me, and I eagerly opened TweakUI.

The bad news is that when I tried to increase the 'folders to remember'
number, I found that mine was _already_ set to 99999, and I don't think
that it is possible to increase it to any more than that. I clicked on
the up arrow to try, and the displayed value changed to 65,535 for some
mysterious reason (?).

I clicked 'OK' to that anyway, but when I went back to that dialog box
again, it had reverted back to 99999, and my folder views are still
suffering from uncommanded alterations, and are still showing cover
photos that are not photos that are actually inside them.

Although TweakUI is showing that very large value, is it still worth my
while trying the registry edit as well?

Is there any way to find out just exactly how many folders I actually
have at all?

If an external drive (or drives) are connected, do the folders on those
count towards the total? (The size of drives these days means there is
potentially an awful lot of folders to be dealt with.)

The most annoying problem is that the photos being displayed by my
errant folders are ones that are NOT inside the folders in question.
They are not even on the same hard drive, and the external drive they
are on is not connected to my PC.

Where is it that these folders are getting the photos from to display?
Is there some sort of repository file somewhere in the system that I can
delete, so that at least these images disappear completely from my
system? (If I can do that, I don't mind having to re-customize as
necessary.)

Cheers,
Meehan

The max value (I'm guessing) is FFFF hex (65,535 dec). Any value above
that just wraps around or gets reset to the max value. I'm only running
at 8000 decimal for a value and haven't had the problem reoccur of
forgetting the folder customization.

Do you have Windows Explorer configured to show system files? Not just
hidden files but also system files? If so, that means you can see the
desktop.ini file used to retain the customization settings. Since you
can see it means you can also easily delete it. So if you are deleting
a bunch of files or a range of them, it could be that you are deleting
the desktop.ini file which means you lose your customizations.

The thumbnail cache (wholly separate of the folder customization) is
saved in the thumbs.db file. If you delete it, it gets rebuilt. Or you
can do as mentioned before and not have the cache retained at all.
 
M

Meehan Mydog

VanguardLH said:
The max value (I'm guessing) is FFFF hex (65,535 dec). Any value above
that just wraps around or gets reset to the max value. I'm only running
at 8000 decimal for a value and haven't had the problem reoccur of
forgetting the folder customization.

So that is likely to be where the 65,535 value came from in TweakUI,
then. I have tried re-setting it to 65,535, but it keeps jumping back to
99999, as I say.

It would be really handy to be able to see exactly how many folders I do
have, so that I could set it to a value just above that number so as to
allow for a bit of expansion.
Do you have Windows Explorer configured to show system files? Not just
hidden files but also system files? If so, that means you can see the
desktop.ini file used to retain the customization settings. Since you
can see it means you can also easily delete it. So if you are deleting
a bunch of files or a range of them, it could be that you are deleting
the desktop.ini file which means you lose your customizations.

No, I don't have it configured to show system files, apart from briefly
when I want it to for maintenance etc.
My standard folder view setting (under Tools>Folder options...>View) is
to hide hidden files & folders, and also hide protected systems files.
The thumbnail cache (wholly separate of the folder customization) is
saved in the thumbs.db file. If you delete it, it gets rebuilt. Or you
can do as mentioned before and not have the cache retained at all.

Where does it get rebuilt from though?
I have tried deleting the thumbs.db file from one errant folder, but
upon re-opening that folder in thumbnail view, it _still_ showed the
wrong pictures on the folder thumbnails. And, as these pictures are not
in the folder, and indeed are not on a connected drive, where is the
information coming from to rebuild them after I've deleted thumbs.db? It
seems very mysterious to me...
I will try switching off cache retention for a bit, then re-set it again
and see what happens.

Cheers,
Meehan
 
V

VanguardLH

Meehan said:
So that is likely to be where the 65,535 value came from in TweakUI,
then. I have tried re-setting it to 65,535, but it keeps jumping back to
99999, as I say.

It would be really handy to be able to see exactly how many folders I do
have, so that I could set it to a value just above that number so as to
allow for a bit of expansion.

No, I don't have it configured to show system files, apart from briefly
when I want it to for maintenance etc.
My standard folder view setting (under Tools>Folder options...>View) is
to hide hidden files & folders, and also hide protected systems files.

Where does it get rebuilt from though?
I have tried deleting the thumbs.db file from one errant folder, but
upon re-opening that folder in thumbnail view, it _still_ showed the
wrong pictures on the folder thumbnails. And, as these pictures are not
in the folder, and indeed are not on a connected drive, where is the
information coming from to rebuild them after I've deleted thumbs.db? It
seems very mysterious to me...
I will try switching off cache retention for a bit, then re-set it again
and see what happens.

Cheers,
Meehan

Does "folder thumbnails" refer to the thumbnails shown for the image
*files* within the folder (which would apply to the thumbnail cache)?
Or does it mean the icon display for the *folder* (which is wholly
separate of the thumbnail cache on *files* and is instead part of the
folder's customization settings)? It's hard to tell on what you are
asking when you keep confusing the thumbnail cache for *files* with the
*folder* customization.

Is the thumbnails shown in the thumbnail view on the FILES on what you
need help? Or is it with the customization of the FOLDER which can
include the icon used for that folder?
 
M

Meehan Mydog

VanguardLH said:
Does "folder thumbnails" refer to the thumbnails shown for the image
*files* within the folder (which would apply to the thumbnail cache)?
Or does it mean the icon display for the *folder* (which is wholly
separate of the thumbnail cache on *files* and is instead part of the
folder's customization settings)? It's hard to tell on what you are
asking when you keep confusing the thumbnail cache for *files* with the
*folder* customization.

Is the thumbnails shown in the thumbnail view on the FILES on what you
need help? Or is it with the customization of the FOLDER which can
include the icon used for that folder?

Thanks ever so much for your patience.

I'm sorry if I've not been clear. From the two alternatives above, I
mean the latter; the thumbnail type icon display for the folder. (See
para 3 of my original post.)

I have been applying cover photos to my photo folder icons, via
View>Customize this folder...>Choose picture, and applying a memorable
photo from within each folder to it's icon.

The problem is that the pictures I have been applying to those photo
folder icons, on an external drive, have been randomly appearing as
pictures on folder icons throughout all my 'My Documents' folders, even
though none of those folders actually contain any of the pictures that
are appearing on their folder icons.

Of course, none of these pictures would be noticeable on the folder
icons if they remained in 'list' or 'icon' view as I'd set them.

But -and perhaps it is a different problem to the pictures appearing on
the folder icons- they no longer seem to remain as I'd set them, and now
they seem to change every time I open them, from icon view, to list
view, to tile view and to thumbnail view, in no particular order.

Once again, I'm sorry if I wasn't making myself clear. I hope I am now.

Cheers,
Meehan
 
K

Kate

I urge you to try the registry mods, Meehan. My folder views are
still stable after a made the modifications 4 days ago. OK, you then
have to go through your folders to get them how you want, but I
decided to leave mine in the default view until I needed to open them;
then I make any changes, rather than do them all in one go.

Kate
 
V

VanguardLH

Meehan said:
I'm sorry if I've not been clear. From the two alternatives above, I
mean the latter; the thumbnail type icon display for the folder. (See
para 3 of my original post.)

I have been applying cover photos to my photo folder icons, via
View>Customize this folder...>Choose picture, and applying a memorable
photo from within each folder to it's icon.

The problem is that the pictures I have been applying to those photo
folder icons, on an external drive, have been randomly appearing as
pictures on folder icons throughout all my 'My Documents' folders, even
though none of those folders actually contain any of the pictures that
are appearing on their folder icons.

Of course, none of these pictures would be noticeable on the folder
icons if they remained in 'list' or 'icon' view as I'd set them.

But -and perhaps it is a different problem to the pictures appearing on
the folder icons- they no longer seem to remain as I'd set them, and now
they seem to change every time I open them, from icon view, to list
view, to tile view and to thumbnail view, in no particular order.

Okay, so it is remembering folder customizations on which you want help.
When the custom picture disappears as the folder's icon, check if the
desktop.ini file has also disappeared (it is normally hidden because it
is a system file so you need to configure Windows Explorer to show
system files, not just hidden files). If the desktop.ini file doesn't
exist then neither does the customization for that folder.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555077

Since the entries in the desktop.ini file tell where to find the picture
to show as the folder's icon, you'll lose that display if you move the
picture file to elsewhere. Renaming the photo file, renaming one of the
folders in the path to that file, or moving the file to some other path
means desktop.ini won't find the file that was hard-coded into it.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~hwiegman/desktopini.html

This shows the entries found inside the desktop.ini file and their
purpose.
 
M

Meehan Mydog

VanguardLH said:
Okay, so it is remembering folder customizations on which you want help.
When the custom picture disappears as the folder's icon, check if the
desktop.ini file has also disappeared (it is normally hidden because it
is a system file so you need to configure Windows Explorer to show
system files, not just hidden files). If the desktop.ini file doesn't
exist then neither does the customization for that folder.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555077

Since the entries in the desktop.ini file tell where to find the picture
to show as the folder's icon, you'll lose that display if you move the
picture file to elsewhere. Renaming the photo file, renaming one of the
folders in the path to that file, or moving the file to some other path
means desktop.ini won't find the file that was hard-coded into it.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~hwiegman/desktopini.html

This shows the entries found inside the desktop.ini file and their
purpose.

Vanguard,

Once again, thank you for your patience and help.

Well, I think we might be on the right lines here. On my system, the 'My
Documents' folder does have a very small desktop.ini file in it.

In full, that files reads as follows:

[DeleteOnCopy]
Owner=Robin
Personalized=5
PersonalizedName=My Documents


But almost none of the sub-folders within 'My Documents' have a
desktop.ini in them at all.

The one exception is the system-generated 'My Pictures' folder, which
does have a desktop.ini in it.

This also happens to be the only sub-folder in which _I_ have set to
show as thumbnail view, although the others are now changing themselves
to that randomly, as I've explained in my previous posts.

The 'My Pictures' desktop.ini reads:

[DeleteOnCopy]
Owner=Robin
Personalized=39
PersonalizedName=My Pictures
[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-12688
IconFile=%SystemRoot%\system32\mydocs.dll
IconIndex=-101

However, although I remember customizing all the sub-folders within the
'My Pictures' folder into thumbnail view, and choosing a cover photo for
them all, none of these sub-folders contain a desktop.ini file either.

Am I correct in thinking that, from what you say, they should all have
one? Where have they all gone?

Another place where there is no desktop.ini file is on my desktop
itself. Should there be one there?

(There were two files called thumbs.db on my desktop, but I deleted them
both a couple of days ago. It puzzled me at the time how there could be
two files with identical names in the same place, but as you had said at
the time, deleting them made no difference to my folder behaviour anyhow.)

Cheers,
Meehan
 
V

VanguardLH

Meehan said:
VanguardLH said:
Okay, so it is remembering folder customizations on which you want help.
When the custom picture disappears as the folder's icon, check if the
desktop.ini file has also disappeared (it is normally hidden because it
is a system file so you need to configure Windows Explorer to show
system files, not just hidden files). If the desktop.ini file doesn't
exist then neither does the customization for that folder.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555077

Since the entries in the desktop.ini file tell where to find the picture
to show as the folder's icon, you'll lose that display if you move the
picture file to elsewhere. Renaming the photo file, renaming one of the
folders in the path to that file, or moving the file to some other path
means desktop.ini won't find the file that was hard-coded into it.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~hwiegman/desktopini.html

This shows the entries found inside the desktop.ini file and their
purpose.

Vanguard,

Once again, thank you for your patience and help.

Well, I think we might be on the right lines here. On my system, the 'My
Documents' folder does have a very small desktop.ini file in it.

In full, that files reads as follows:

[DeleteOnCopy]
Owner=Robin
Personalized=5
PersonalizedName=My Documents

But almost none of the sub-folders within 'My Documents' have a
desktop.ini in them at all.

The one exception is the system-generated 'My Pictures' folder, which
does have a desktop.ini in it.

This also happens to be the only sub-folder in which _I_ have set to
show as thumbnail view, although the others are now changing themselves
to that randomly, as I've explained in my previous posts.

The 'My Pictures' desktop.ini reads:

[DeleteOnCopy]
Owner=Robin
Personalized=39
PersonalizedName=My Pictures
[.ShellClassInfo]
[email protected],-12688
IconFile=%SystemRoot%\system32\mydocs.dll
IconIndex=-101

However, although I remember customizing all the sub-folders within the
'My Pictures' folder into thumbnail view, and choosing a cover photo for
them all, none of these sub-folders contain a desktop.ini file either.

Am I correct in thinking that, from what you say, they should all have
one? Where have they all gone?'

Now you're getting into "special folders" defined by registry entries.
My Documents, My Pictures, My Music, and so on are defined under:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell
Folders

I know of this registry key but there could very well be others that
help define these special folders and how Windows Explorer is supposed
to give special handling for them (or it could be coded inside
explorer.exe). As such, Windows Explorer knows they are special folders
and gives them some basic handling that differentiates them from normal
folders. While they may have a desktop.ini to permit some user-level
customization, they are already treated by Windows Explorer as special
folder. For example, you could delete the My Pictures folder and then
create a new folder by the same name. However, you create a folder
object would result in you creating a normal folder, not a special one
with definitions in the registry to make them "special" folders.

For the non-special folders, you need to have a desktop.ini to retain
any customization settings for those normal folders. If you have
Windows Explorer configured to show system files then you might be
deleting the desktop.ini file by accident. If you move folders around
or rename the folders then the path to, say, the picture file is no
longer valid (but you'd have to check if a relative or absolute path to
the image file was specified; however, obviously if the image file is
deleted or renamed then it can't be used to show a picture for that
folder).

You might be using some cleanup utility that deletes the desktop.ini
file(s). For example, at one time (before v2.00.495), CrapCleaner
(whose name got cleaned up to CCleaner) would delete the desktop.ini
files; see http://www.ccleaner.com/download/version-history. Could be
CCleaner or some other cleanup utility is wiping out your customizations
by deleting the desktop.ini files.
Another place where there is no desktop.ini file is on my desktop
itself. Should there be one there?

The desktop is not a folder. The %userprofile%\Desktop folder is used
to track what icons or shortcuts you have added to the desktop. The
desktop is managed by explorer.exe (Windows Explorer). Yep, that's
right. Windows Explorer is also the desktop manager. There is a
registry entry that specifies which desktop manager gets used so you
could use a 3rd party (non-Microsoft) desktop manager.

I remember seeing users do this in 9x-based versions of Windows but have
rarely seen anyone do it with NT-based versions of Windows. I don't
even recall the name of the registry key where you define what desktop
manager gets used. Been way too long since I've seen users clamoring
for an alternate desktop manager for NT-based versions of Windows. I
did find mention of one old one (RbVdesktop) but I think that company is
defunct. A screen image can be seen at:

http://www.downloadthat.com/images/screen/RbVdesktop-43218.jpg
http://regnow.img.digitalriver.com/vendor/13790/RN-Screenshot.jpg
http://www.filebuzz.com/software_screenshot/full/desktop3d-47849.jpg

(Mostly notice the shortcuts for applications and files on the desktop
versus the childish background image chosen by whomever took a screen
capture of their desktop.)
(There were two files called thumbs.db on my desktop, but I deleted them
both a couple of days ago. It puzzled me at the time how there could be
two files with identical names in the same place, but as you had said at
the time, deleting them made no difference to my folder behaviour anyhow.)

You sure that perhaps just the filename was displayed for those objects
on your desktop and that they might've been shortcuts that had different
paths to those files? For example, one might be to C:\path1\thumbs.db
and the other to C:\path2\thumbs.db and both showed "thumbs.db" in the
title for the shortcut.
 
M

Meehan Mydog

VanguardLH said:
Now you're getting into "special folders" defined by registry entries.
My Documents, My Pictures, My Music, and so on are defined under:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell
Folders

I know of this registry key but there could very well be others that
help define these special folders and how Windows Explorer is supposed
to give special handling for them (or it could be coded inside
explorer.exe). As such, Windows Explorer knows they are special folders
and gives them some basic handling that differentiates them from normal
folders. While they may have a desktop.ini to permit some user-level
customization, they are already treated by Windows Explorer as special
folder. For example, you could delete the My Pictures folder and then
create a new folder by the same name. However, you create a folder
object would result in you creating a normal folder, not a special one
with definitions in the registry to make them "special" folders.

For the non-special folders, you need to have a desktop.ini to retain
any customization settings for those normal folders. If you have
Windows Explorer configured to show system files then you might be
deleting the desktop.ini file by accident.

No. The only times I have Explorer configured to show system files in
that way is when I know I want to see them for a specific reason -such
as the work I've been doing to try and solve this problem. All other
times it is set to 'hide hidden and system files and folders'. I'm
absolutely sure I have not manually deleted the desktop.ini files by
accident.

If you move folders around
or rename the folders then the path to, say, the picture file is no
longer valid (but you'd have to check if a relative or absolute path to
the image file was specified; however, obviously if the image file is
deleted or renamed then it can't be used to show a picture for that
folder).

I have not been moving or renaming, but in any case surely all that
would happen then is that the picture file to which the path led would
just no longer appear on the folder icon.

What has been happening on mine is that _different_ pictures appeared on
my folder icons, pictures that are not in those folders or even on a
drive connected to the computer.
You might be using some cleanup utility that deletes the desktop.ini
file(s). For example, at one time (before v2.00.495), CrapCleaner
(whose name got cleaned up to CCleaner) would delete the desktop.ini
files; see http://www.ccleaner.com/download/version-history. Could be
CCleaner or some other cleanup utility is wiping out your customizations
by deleting the desktop.ini files.

Well, I do have CCleaner installed, but it is version 2.20.920. I have
no other clean-up utility that I know of.

Whatever has caused it, none of my document folders (apart from my
pictures, as I say) have a desktop.ini in them. Is there any way of
getting them back in there?
The desktop is not a folder. The %userprofile%\Desktop folder is used
to track what icons or shortcuts you have added to the desktop. The
desktop is managed by explorer.exe (Windows Explorer). Yep, that's
right. Windows Explorer is also the desktop manager. There is a
registry entry that specifies which desktop manager gets used so you
could use a 3rd party (non-Microsoft) desktop manager.
Well, that explains why there isn't one there then, thanks. (Funny...
but, the way my brain works, the one logical place I would have expected
to see a system file called desktop.ini would have been on my desktop...)
You sure that perhaps just the filename was displayed for those objects
on your desktop and that they might've been shortcuts that had different
paths to those files? For example, one might be to C:\path1\thumbs.db
and the other to C:\path2\thumbs.db and both showed "thumbs.db" in the
title for the shortcut.
Yes, they could have been shortcuts, which again would explain why there
could have been two.

Incidentally, when I've been changing the view options to show system
files etc for the purposes of this investigation, I have noticed one
check-box option available on the dialog box is 'Launch folder windows
in a separate process' Currently I have that un-checked. (I don't
remember altering it, so I assume it is the default setting.) Would
checking that have any beneficial effect regarding my problems, do you
think? Or am I barking up another incorrect tree?

Cheers,
Meehan
 

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