Folder Options - File Types - Restore

[BillW50]

I have had problems with File Types and some I can't edit. As for
example I have Word2000 opening all TXT files. They would open fine, but
they didn't use the file name and used Document(x) instead. So I needed
to edit the file type.

You can't do this anymore. When did this change? As now you have to
restore the file type back to Notepad. Now you have the ability to
modify the path, switches, etc. When did they change this? And it seems
a step backwards to me. :-(

 

[Terry R.]

The date and time was Monday, May 11, 2009 8:27:10 AM, and on a whim,
BillW50 pounded out on the keyboard:

I have had problems with File Types and some I can't edit. As for
example I have Word2000 opening all TXT files. They would open fine, but
they didn't use the file name and used Document(x) instead. So I needed
to edit the file type.

You can't do this anymore. When did this change? As now you have to
restore the file type back to Notepad. Now you have the ability to
modify the path, switches, etc. When did they change this? And it seems
a step backwards to me. :-(

Hi Bill,

Are you saying someone (they) sent a text file with a DOC extension or
DOCX extension? Why not just tell THEM to send the file properly?

What do you mean you "can't do this anymore"? Your statements aren't clear.

Do you have the 2007 Compatibility Pack installed (overkill for opening
a text file for sure)?


Terry R.

 

[BillW50]

In Terry R. typed on Mon, 11 May 2009 08:57:44 -0700:

The date and time was Monday, May 11, 2009 8:27:10 AM, and on a whim,
BillW50 pounded out on the keyboard:


Hi Bill,

Are you saying someone (they) sent a text file with a DOC extension or
DOCX extension? Why not just tell THEM to send the file properly?

What do you mean you "can't do this anymore"? Your statements aren't
clear.
Do you have the 2007 Compatibility Pack installed (overkill for
opening a text file for sure)?

Hi Terry! I mean if I tell Explorer to open all TXT files with Word2000
instead of Notepad, Word2000 does open them up. But it doesn't use the
original filename. Say if I double-click on Readme.txt, it opens just
fine. But the name of the file isn't Readme.txt, it is Document1
instead.

The fix is to open Folder Options -> File Types and change TXT type like
this:

"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\WINWORD.EXE" "%1"

Now Word2000 will open up Readme.txt and use the name Readme.txt instead
of Document1. Although when you tell Explorer to use Word instead of
Notepad, you loose the ability to edit and modify the file type
(Application used to perform action).

Windows didn't used to work this way. As once you change what
application will open a file type, the ability to edit the action and
"Application used to perform action" is no longer available. It only
becomes available once again if you restore it back to Notepad. Now you
can edit it. And my question is, when and why?

 

[Terry R.]

The date and time was Monday, May 11, 2009 9:51:36 AM, and on a whim,
BillW50 pounded out on the keyboard:

In Terry R. typed on Mon, 11 May 2009 08:57:44 -0700:

Hi Terry! I mean if I tell Explorer to open all TXT files with Word2000
instead of Notepad, Word2000 does open them up. But it doesn't use the
original filename. Say if I double-click on Readme.txt, it opens just
fine. But the name of the file isn't Readme.txt, it is Document1
instead.

By "if I tell Explorer to open...", are you stating you are right
clicking and selecting Open With?

The fix is to open Folder Options -> File Types and change TXT type like
this:

"C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\WINWORD.EXE" "%1"

This works when I used Word 2003 & WordPerfect.

Now Word2000 will open up Readme.txt and use the name Readme.txt instead
of Document1. Although when you tell Explorer to use Word instead of
Notepad, you loose the ability to edit and modify the file type
(Application used to perform action).

That doesn't happen here. After changing to Word or WordPerfect, I
still could click the Advanced button and change it back to Notepad.

Windows didn't used to work this way. As once you change what
application will open a file type, the ability to edit the action and
"Application used to perform action" is no longer available. It only
becomes available once again if you restore it back to Notepad. Now you
can edit it. And my question is, when and why?

Can't replicate that here.

Terry R.

 

[G. Morgan]

Can't replicate that here.

Replicate? Watch a little too much Star Trek over the weekend?

 

[BillW50]

In Terry R. typed on Mon, 11 May 2009 10:42:08 -0700:

The date and time was Monday, May 11, 2009 9:51:36 AM, and on a whim,
BillW50 pounded out on the keyboard:


By "if I tell Explorer to open...", are you stating you are right
clicking and selecting Open With?


This works when I used Word 2003 & WordPerfect.


That doesn't happen here. After changing to Word or WordPerfect, I
still could click the Advanced button and change it back to Notepad.


Can't replicate that here.

Hi Terry! Okay I left out something that might help which I assumed as a
given. Right click on a file type that you want to change the
application that opens it. Select "open with". Now ignore all listed
applications and select the last option, Choose Program. Now browse or
select a program and check the box to always use. Now you can't edit the
action or the program line box in File Types under Folder Options. You
can't until you hit the Restore button, which changes the default back
to Notepad. Now the Restore button changes back to Advanced and now you
can edit it.

 

[Terry R.]

The date and time was Monday, May 11, 2009 11:16:57 AM, and on a whim,
BillW50 pounded out on the keyboard:

In Terry R. typed on Mon, 11 May 2009 10:42:08 -0700:

Hi Terry! Okay I left out something that might help which I assumed as a
given. Right click on a file type that you want to change the
application that opens it. Select "open with". Now ignore all listed
applications and select the last option, Choose Program. Now browse or
select a program and check the box to always use. Now you can't edit the
action or the program line box in File Types under Folder Options. You
can't until you hit the Restore button, which changes the default back
to Notepad. Now the Restore button changes back to Advanced and now you
can edit it.

Correct, the Advanced button is now Restore once changed. But you can
still go the same route as you describe and quickly change it using Open
with >> Choose Program. No real reason to edit the default using the
Advanced button unless it truly IS a default I guess.

I thought that changed with SP3, but I see you are using SP2, so it must
have been an update that changed it?



Terry R.

 

[Terry R.]

The date and time was Monday, May 11, 2009 10:48:51 AM, and on a whim,
G. Morgan pounded out on the keyboard:

Replicate? Watch a little too much Star Trek over the weekend?

In an experiment, to replicate is to completely repeat a set of test
conditions. That's what I did. Have a problem with that?

And I thought the movie was good too.




Terry R.

 

[BillW50]

In Terry R. typed on Mon, 11 May 2009 13:40:30 -0700:

The date and time was Monday, May 11, 2009 11:16:57 AM, and on a whim,
BillW50 pounded out on the keyboard:


Correct, the Advanced button is now Restore once changed. But you can
still go the same route as you describe and quickly change it using
Open with >> Choose Program. No real reason to edit the default
using the Advanced button unless it truly IS a default I guess.

I thought that changed with SP3, but I see you are using SP2, so it
must have been an update that changed it?

Hi Terry! You would think Choose Program would work, but it doesn't if
you choose Word2000. As I get the same problem mentioned above that Word
opens the file just fine. But the filename isn't retained. Only editing
the default works. It acts just like the "%1" variable is missing.

Maybe it changed through SP2, as SP2 has this behavior. Anyway many
thanks!

 

[Terry R.]

The date and time was Monday, May 11, 2009 1:55:35 PM, and on a whim,
BillW50 pounded out on the keyboard:

In Terry R. typed on Mon, 11 May 2009 13:40:30 -0700:

Hi Terry! You would think Choose Program would work, but it doesn't if
you choose Word2000. As I get the same problem mentioned above that Word
opens the file just fine. But the filename isn't retained. Only editing
the default works. It acts just like the "%1" variable is missing.

Maybe it changed through SP2, as SP2 has this behavior. Anyway many
thanks!

I'm confused again. So, Word2k is your default to open TXT files. If
you try "Choose Program" and choose Word2k it doesn't work? You
shouldn't have to do that since it's the default, right?

If I have TXT files default open in Notepad and use Choose Program to
select Word2003, it opens. If I have Word2003 as the default to open
TXT files and use Choose Program and select Word2003, it still opens.
It that not what is happening for you? You may have to state each
default and action, or it may just be with Word2k.

Interesting thing now, because of this testing I now have 2 Notepad
selections when I right click in Open With, and also in Choose Program.
Sheesh!


Terry R.

 

[BillW50]

In Terry R. typed on Mon, 11 May 2009 16:06:54 -0700:

The date and time was Monday, May 11, 2009 1:55:35 PM, and on a whim,
BillW50 pounded out on the keyboard:


I'm confused again. So, Word2k is your default to open TXT files. If
you try "Choose Program" and choose Word2k it doesn't work? You
shouldn't have to do that since it's the default, right?

If I have TXT files default open in Notepad and use Choose Program to
select Word2003, it opens. If I have Word2003 as the default to open
TXT files and use Choose Program and select Word2003, it still opens.
It that not what is happening for you? You may have to state each
default and action, or it may just be with Word2k.

Interesting thing now, because of this testing I now have 2 Notepad
selections when I right click in Open With, and also in Choose
Program. Sheesh!

Hi Terry! Well Notepad was the default, but I use the spell checker and
change case (usually Title case) a lot. So I use Word2000 a lot for text
files.

Word2k works fine if I change it by the Advanced button. If I change it
with Choose Program, it reads in the text file, but doesn't pick up the
file name. Thus when I go to save again, it wants a file name.

 

[Terry R.]

The date and time was Monday, May 11, 2009 5:47:04 PM, and on a whim,
BillW50 pounded out on the keyboard:

In Terry R. typed on Mon, 11 May 2009 16:06:54 -0700:

Hi Terry! Well Notepad was the default, but I use the spell checker and
change case (usually Title case) a lot. So I use Word2000 a lot for text
files.

Word2k works fine if I change it by the Advanced button. If I change it
with Choose Program, it reads in the text file, but doesn't pick up the
file name. Thus when I go to save again, it wants a file name.

So if you "change it" (default of Notepad?) with Choose Program (to
Word2k?) it reads the file but not the name? That doesn't happen to me
with Word2003 or WordPerfect. When it doesn't work (opens the file
without the name), you can't see if the "%1" is a parameter since you
have no way to look at, right?

I would think the registry value could be located and added manually.
And if you switch frequently, maybe create a reg file to import the
value with a shortcut on your Desktop.


Terry R.

 

[G. Morgan]

In an experiment, to replicate is to completely repeat a set of test
conditions. That's what I did. Have a problem with that?

Jesuz H Krist on a popsicle stick. Do any of you mofo's in here have a sense
of humor, or is everyone wearing a stick in their ass?

 

[Richard]

The date and time was Monday, May 11, 2009 5:47:04 PM, and on a whim,
BillW50 pounded out on the keyboard:


So if you "change it" (default of Notepad?) with Choose Program (to
Word2k?) it reads the file but not the name? That doesn't happen to me
with Word2003 or WordPerfect. When it doesn't work (opens the file
without the name), you can't see if the "%1" is a parameter since you have
no way to look at, right?

I would think the registry value could be located and added manually. And
if you switch frequently, maybe create a reg file to import the value with
a shortcut on your Desktop.


Terry R.
--

What I did for .TXT files in the File Types dialog Advanced, was add the
command:
open in &Word
Then simply right-click and press W to open in word,
or double-click to open with Notepad
you can select the "open in &Word" command and "Set Default" if you like.



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[BillW50]

In Terry R. typed on Mon, 11 May 2009 19:02:05 -0700:

The date and time was Monday, May 11, 2009 5:47:04 PM, and on a whim,
BillW50 pounded out on the keyboard:


So if you "change it" (default of Notepad?) with Choose Program (to
Word2k?) it reads the file but not the name? That doesn't happen to
me with Word2003 or WordPerfect. When it doesn't work (opens the file
without the name), you can't see if the "%1" is a parameter since you
have no way to look at, right?

I would think the registry value could be located and added manually.
And if you switch frequently, maybe create a reg file to import the
value with a shortcut on your Desktop.

Hi Terry! As far as I can tell, it is only Word2000 that acts this way.
When it opens without the name, no I can't see the parameter. As the
Advanced button has been replaced with Restore. Although I tried
deleting the parameter and Word2000 gives an invalid path or file name
error and no file was opened. Not even a blank document. Rechecking the
parameter, Windows appears to add it without the quotes. If I add the
quotes, it works fine again. I tested it on a file named Time.txt, btw.

Just now, I was playing around with Choose Program and checking the box
to always use. I was selecting different ones like Word, NewtPad,
Notepad, WordPad, etc. And everything works perfectly.

I changed Advanced back to Notepad.exe, now Word2000 doesn't grab the
file name once again. And now I have two Notepads shown in the Choose
Program list. lol

Changed Advanced back to Word, flawless once again. And the second
Notepad in the Choose Program list disappeared too. So everything works
in this state. Be nice to know what parameter is being used when it
doesn't work.

 

[Terry R.]

The date and time was Monday, May 11, 2009 10:12:22 PM, and on a whim,
G. Morgan pounded out on the keyboard:

Jesuz H Krist on a popsicle stick. Do any of you mofo's in here have a sense
of humor, or is everyone wearing a stick in their ass?

I have a great sense of humor, when I see it. Your first comment wasn't
funny and your last comment is offensive. So maybe you should get into
a new line of work, one that involves your obvious obsession with sticks
and butts.


Terry R.

 

[Terry R.]

The date and time was Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:45:37 AM, and on a whim,
BillW50 pounded out on the keyboard:

In Terry R. typed on Mon, 11 May 2009 19:02:05 -0700:

Hi Terry! As far as I can tell, it is only Word2000 that acts this way.
When it opens without the name, no I can't see the parameter. As the
Advanced button has been replaced with Restore. Although I tried
deleting the parameter and Word2000 gives an invalid path or file name
error and no file was opened. Not even a blank document. Rechecking the
parameter, Windows appears to add it without the quotes. If I add the
quotes, it works fine again. I tested it on a file named Time.txt, btw.

Just now, I was playing around with Choose Program and checking the box
to always use. I was selecting different ones like Word, NewtPad,
Notepad, WordPad, etc. And everything works perfectly.

I changed Advanced back to Notepad.exe, now Word2000 doesn't grab the
file name once again. And now I have two Notepads shown in the Choose
Program list. lol

Changed Advanced back to Word, flawless once again. And the second
Notepad in the Choose Program list disappeared too. So everything works
in this state. Be nice to know what parameter is being used when it
doesn't work.

Hi Bill,

Yes, I found that without the quotes surrounding the %1, opening fails,
since most paths have spaces in them, and the error starts with, "Cannot
find C:\Documents".

Funny you wound up with two Notepad entries also. On a clean boot
today, the second Notepad entry is gone.

Richards suggestion might be a good alternative.

Take care,

Terry R.

 

[BillW50]

In Richard typed on Tue, 12 May 2009 05:11:21 -0400:

What I did for .TXT files in the File Types dialog Advanced, was add
the command:
open in &Word
Then simply right-click and press W to open in word,
or double-click to open with Notepad
you can select the "open in &Word" command and "Set Default" if you
like.

Great idea Richard. And thanks Richard and Terry.