Fixboot SATAdriver

[Bjorn]

Hi,

can fixboot be a way for restoring the SATA driver?

I ask as I dont know what this command does. or can do...

My bootdisk cannot be recognized as I have lost the SATA driver.

Fixmbr can not install that driver.

More info here
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...dc2d504ce9ef&lang=en&cr=US&sloc=en-us&m=1&p=1

I dont understand where this SATA driver is stored on disk.
If fixmbr dont work it can not be stored in mbr.
It is a Windows driver but must be loaded before Windows load.
As a SATA drive does not exist before Windows have loaded the driver ??????

Please explain if you know. TIA.

Or maybe I should ask, how to install a SATA driver without reinstalling
Windows?

 

[Thee Chicago Wolf]

can fixboot be a way for restoring the SATA driver?

I ask as I dont know what this command does. or can do...

My bootdisk cannot be recognized as I have lost the SATA driver.

Fixmbr can not install that driver.

More info here
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...dc2d504ce9ef&lang=en&cr=US&sloc=en-us&m=1&p=1

I dont understand where this SATA driver is stored on disk.
If fixmbr dont work it can not be stored in mbr.
It is a Windows driver but must be loaded before Windows load.
As a SATA drive does not exist before Windows have loaded the driver ??????

Please explain if you know. TIA.

Or maybe I should ask, how to install a SATA driver without reinstalling
Windows?

No, not as far as I know. Fixboot does not replace the driver or have
anything to do with the driver. Have you tried a "Last Known Good
Configuration"?

- Thee Chicago Wolf

 

[Bjorn]

No, not as far as I know. Fixboot does not replace the driver or have
anything to do with the driver. Have you tried a "Last Known Good
Configuration"?

- Thee Chicago Wolf

"Last Known Good

Configuration"?

For that I need to boot from that disk and thats the problem.
A SATA is a RAW format until the driver is loaded.

I replaced the mbr with a standard mbr with fixmbr.

After that I have an endless loop in BIOS checking the hardware.

If control is leaved to mbr or not I dont know.

But a standard mbr is the same on both ATA and SATA.

Where exactly is the difference between ATA and SATA readed?

I changed back to a standard mbr as I thought that this should contain the
driver but it didnt work.

I hade a bootmenu in the mbr which was not standard.

I changed it back and have no menu now only a endless loop in BIOS without
any error messages. No boot failure.

If I write anything stupid is because I dont understand anything og this.

 

[Bjorn]

Maybe the new mbr is damaged ... can it be so????
Becaus, if system start to read mbr it seems to not finish but why return to
BIOS check and without error message???

 

[Poprivet`]

Hi,

can fixboot be a way for restoring the SATA driver?

I ask as I dont know what this command does. or can do...

My bootdisk cannot be recognized as I have lost the SATA driver.

Fixmbr can not install that driver.

More info here
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...dc2d504ce9ef&lang=en&cr=US&sloc=en-us&m=1&p=1

I dont understand where this SATA driver is stored on disk.
If fixmbr dont work it can not be stored in mbr.
It is a Windows driver but must be loaded before Windows load.
As a SATA drive does not exist before Windows have loaded the driver
??????

Please explain if you know. TIA.

Or maybe I should ask, how to install a SATA driver without
reinstalling Windows?

It would seem that the Mfr of your SATA drive should have that info on his
site for loading the SATA driver/s. Are you certain it needs a driver? All
I had to do on my system was power up, let it recognize the drive, and then
go to Disk Maintenance to assign a drive letter to it, then format it. All
went fine.

HTH

Pop`

 

[Bjorn]

Thanks for reply.
The driver depends on which chipset is mounted on main board (I have VIA)
this driver is installed with Windows.

But maybe something else is wrong.

I dont know what happen after BIOS hardware check, I only know that control
goes back to BIOS so BIOS seems to be in an endless loop.

Very strange that I dont get any messages at all.

I expected help from Paragons support as their program caused this problem
but they have told me after 10 days that they are not able to solve the
problem.

As I use this disk daily for storing data I know that the only problem is
the boot.
But fixboot and fixmbr dont help. Probably as they cannot install the driver.

XP can install everything ATA, CD units, card readers .... everything exept
SATA drives. Printers, scanners cameras everything can be installed without
drivers but not SATA.

Ooops. The problem is if SATA is a boot disk, it works as a data disk but
cannot boot.
I have this driver on both ATA and SATA disks so that I always kan use SATA
drives for for storing even if I boot on a ATA drive.

So, it was wrong that the disk is not recognized, I meant not recognized as
a boot disk. If I boot without driver it will not be found. and ... thats
the actual problem I think.

 

[Poprivet`]

Thanks for reply.
The driver depends on which chipset is mounted on main board (I have
VIA) this driver is installed with Windows.

But maybe something else is wrong.

I dont know what happen after BIOS hardware check, I only know that
control goes back to BIOS so BIOS seems to be in an endless loop.

Very strange that I dont get any messages at all.

I expected help from Paragons support as their program caused this
problem but they have told me after 10 days that they are not able to
solve the problem.

As I use this disk daily for storing data I know that the only
problem is the boot.
But fixboot and fixmbr dont help. Probably as they cannot install the
driver.

XP can install everything ATA, CD units, card readers .... everything
exept SATA drives. Printers, scanners cameras everything can be
installed without drivers but not SATA.

Minor Correction: XP/SP2 , as in here on my machine, includes the
necessities for a SATA drive though it sounds like yours does not. I think
it's more a combo of XP and the SATA controllers on the mother board that
determine whether an external driver is needed. There are also different
typs of SATA drives too I recall.
But as I mentioned before, all I had to do was turn on the computer and
it saw the drive and installed it; no separate drivers needed.
That's why I asked if you knew for sure that you actually needed the
drivers. XP does have SATA drivers but apparently not a one size fits all.

Ooops. The problem is if SATA is a boot disk, it works as a data
disk but cannot boot.

I've heard of issues with getting SATA going as boot disk. As I still have
an IDE ATA for my boot disk I haven't had the experience yet.

I have this driver on both ATA and SATA disks so that I always kan
use SATA drives for for storing even if I boot on a ATA drive.

Why? Since the ATA is IDE, nothing should have had to be changed for that
drive. Guess you confused me.

So, it was wrong that the disk is not recognized, I meant not
recognized as a boot disk. If I boot without driver it will not be
found. and ... thats the actual problem I think.

Hmm, OK, that goes beyond the limits of my rudimentary experience; sorry.
Here's a link that might help; there were lots of others but mostly forum
hits and such:
http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=101&threadID=216908&messageID=2204065

The Mfr of your drive may have the details you need, too. As I said before
I just assigned it a drive letter and then went ahead and formatted it, and
was back in business with mine.
Giess that's about the limit of any assistance I can give.

HTH

Pop`

 

[Bjorn]

Well if I want to install XP on a new SATA Windows cannot be installed as the
drive (even formatted and assigned a drive letter) is RAW until this driver
is loaded.
If boot on one SATA I can make the new one ready with format as I booted
with the driver.
Now, if I want a clean install, I disconnect the SATA with driver nd boot
from CD. As there is no SATA driver the SATA disk is RAW until I chose to
boot the CD with the driver.
That driver is not included on CD and it is still not included in latest
Windows update. But I have VIA chip set and need the VIA RAID driver which
also incl SATA. I must load this driver from diskette, install accept only
B: drive so USB or flash memory dont work.
It is possible to burn a CD containing this driver in the boot,.

Its possible that the SATA driver for Intel chip set is installed on CD, I
dont kno that. Maybe you have a OEM -CD? I doubt any SATA drivers was incl on
the original CD 2004. (ooops I dont have the English version ... I have the
latest version in MY language) If any difference.

I was interrupted here, must leave ......

 

[Bjorn]

Now I have a standard mbr and I think these are the same for ATA and SATA
Next step after mbr is to read ntldr the first of the boot files in root
directory.
I get no errors as the hardware boot is passed, there is a boot disk so I
get not disk boot failure.
After this the boot files gives error messages but as (probably) the SATA
driver is missing I get no error messages from the boot files as these can
not be read.
Control loops back to BIOS and I have an endless loop in BIOS without any
messages.
I think it must be that way. The SATA driver is the bridge between hardware
and software boot. (maybe I am wrong)
I am trapped there if I cannot find a way to install the driver.
All other driver can be installed from within Windows but this one must be
installed before Windows starts. I can figure out how to solve that problem.

I think someone here must know this problem.

As I wrote before, no errors on disk or partion table, it works daily as
storage but it cannot boot. This is if system is booted with the SATA drive
on bootdisk. Without that driver my SATA drives are RAW disks without format,
partions and drive letter. Its why I install this driver even on ATA disks so
I can read SATA if I boot from a ATA.
Windos is installed on the SATA but as the disk cannot be read, Windows
cannot boot and system is forced into a loop checking the hardware over and
over again without error messages.
Its a night mare. It must be two weeks now.

I dont understand how this SATA driver is added during Windows installation.
There must be a way to add this driver to the hard disk drive.

Tell me if you think I am wrong here.