FATAL STOP - ALL permissions for Drive C were changed to DENY

[Guest]

Dear Experts,

I am a novice user. What I did was DUMB (right after I
hit enter I knew I had screwed up).

I have a 3 computer lan at home running Windows 2000. On
laptop #1 I logged onto the C: drive of laptop #2. I
clicked on properties of Drive C: and changed the security
settings. I set EVERYONE to DENY. There were NO other
permissions. I then closed the window.

A little later I tried to re-boot laptop #2. I am
unable to boot and get the blue screen and Fatal Error
message.

I have tried to repair Windows 2000 with the W2000 CD
using the Emergency Repair process. I chose the automatic
mode. Now, I get an "NTLDR is missing" error when trying
to boot from the hard drive.

None of this works.

I am able to access the Recovery Console but don't know
what to do.

Please HELP!

Thank you,

Tom

PS I assume I can reinstall Win 2000 to resolve the
problem....but there has to be a better way.

 

[Steven L Umbach]

I may be wrong, but I don't think you can repair the problem from the
recovery console. You would need to be able to run secedit or calcs, but I
don't think those are available in recovery console. You are probably going
to have to reinstall. However, you can do that by booting from install cdrom
and then installing into the existing \winnt folder [which will be detected
during install process] without formatting. At least that should leave your
data intact unless you had any EFS encrypted files that would not be
recoverable by normal means unless you had a backup of your EFS
certificate/private key. After reinstalling, you would need to reinstall
aplications on top of themselves and reapply service pack and critical
updates from Windows Update. You would have a new user profile created, but
your old one would still be available under documents and settings folder
where you could retrieve files such as emails and my documents. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;229716

 

[Tom M]

Dear Steve,

Thank you for the reply.

I am also fairly certain I do not have access to the
secedit or calcs command in the Recovery Console. They
are not listed after typing 'help' at the C:\winnt
directory. I don't know about access to other
folders...but I assume I am not able to access them either.

Yesterday, I took a few steps into the reinstallation of
Win 2000 in the recovery console. I got to one step where
I was asked if I wanted to install Windows in the existing
C:\winnt folder or a different folder. I initially chose
the existing C:\winnt folder and I received a warning
about overwriting existing programs, settings, etc.....and
I'm almost certain is said 'DATA'. Did it mean ALL the
data in my entire C: drive????

And, I wonder what would happen if I chose a NEW directory
to install Win 2000...something like C:\winnt2 ? What
would happen to my application programs and data?

As a last resort, I am willing to reinstall Win 2000....IF
all my data is recovered (I don't know what EFS encrypted
files are).

Thanks for your help.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
I may be wrong, but I don't think you can repair the problem from the
recovery console. You would need to be able to run secedit or calcs, but I
don't think those are available in recovery console. You are probably going
to have to reinstall. However, you can do that by booting from install cdrom
and then installing into the existing \winnt folder [which will be detected
during install process] without formatting. At least that should leave your
data intact unless you had any EFS encrypted files that would not be
recoverable by normal means unless you had a backup of your EFS
certificate/private key. After reinstalling, you would need to reinstall
aplications on top of themselves and reapply service pack and critical
updates from Windows Update. You would have a new user profile created, but
your old one would still be available under documents and settings folder
where you could retrieve files such as emails and my documents. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;229716

Dear Experts,

I am a novice user. What I did was DUMB (right after I
hit enter I knew I had screwed up).

I have a 3 computer lan at home running Windows 2000. On
laptop #1 I logged onto the C: drive of laptop #2. I
clicked on properties of Drive C: and changed the security
settings. I set EVERYONE to DENY. There were NO other
permissions. I then closed the window.

A little later I tried to re-boot laptop #2. I am
unable to boot and get the blue screen and Fatal Error
message.

I have tried to repair Windows 2000 with the W2000 CD
using the Emergency Repair process. I chose the automatic
mode. Now, I get an "NTLDR is missing" error when trying
to boot from the hard drive.

None of this works.

I am able to access the Recovery Console but don't know
what to do.

Please HELP!

Thank you,

Tom

PS I assume I can reinstall Win 2000 to resolve the
problem....but there has to be a better way.

.

 

[Steven Umbach]

When in doubt just enter calcs or secedit at the prompt in recovery mode to see
if they execute. If they do, you may be able to repair from there.

I have reinstalled into existing \winnt folder without loosing any data - you
will have a new profile created when you logon, but the old profile will still
be there where things like your my documents folder is located. I know it says
that you will, but I believe it is a warning to prompt you to backup and prepare
you for the worst just in case. Programs and settings will be overwritten and
that is why I said you will have to reinstall your applications, and security
patches. If you don't know what EFS encryption is, you probably are not using
it. You certainly could also install into a new directory and your data should
be fine as long as you do NOT format. That would be considered a parallel
installation. Ideally you should back up your data first before doing any
reinstallation by putting the hard drive in another computer running W2K and
copy the data to a safe place but that would be difficult with laptops without
special adapters. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;266465

Dear Steve,

Thank you for the reply.

I am also fairly certain I do not have access to the
secedit or calcs command in the Recovery Console. They
are not listed after typing 'help' at the C:\winnt
directory. I don't know about access to other
folders...but I assume I am not able to access them either.

Yesterday, I took a few steps into the reinstallation of
Win 2000 in the recovery console. I got to one step where
I was asked if I wanted to install Windows in the existing
C:\winnt folder or a different folder. I initially chose
the existing C:\winnt folder and I received a warning
about overwriting existing programs, settings, etc.....and
I'm almost certain is said 'DATA'. Did it mean ALL the
data in my entire C: drive????

And, I wonder what would happen if I chose a NEW directory
to install Win 2000...something like C:\winnt2 ? What
would happen to my application programs and data?

As a last resort, I am willing to reinstall Win 2000....IF
all my data is recovered (I don't know what EFS encrypted
files are).

Thanks for your help.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
I may be wrong, but I don't think you can repair the problem from the
recovery console. You would need to be able to run secedit or calcs, but I
don't think those are available in recovery console. You are probably going
to have to reinstall. However, you can do that by booting from install cdrom
and then installing into the existing \winnt folder [which will be detected
during install process] without formatting. At least that should leave your
data intact unless you had any EFS encrypted files that would not be
recoverable by normal means unless you had a backup of your EFS
certificate/private key. After reinstalling, you would need to reinstall
aplications on top of themselves and reapply service pack and critical
updates from Windows Update. You would have a new user profile created, but
your old one would still be available under documents and settings folder
where you could retrieve files such as emails and my documents. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;229716

Dear Experts,

I am a novice user. What I did was DUMB (right after I
hit enter I knew I had screwed up).

I have a 3 computer lan at home running Windows 2000. On
laptop #1 I logged onto the C: drive of laptop #2. I
clicked on properties of Drive C: and changed the security
settings. I set EVERYONE to DENY. There were NO other
permissions. I then closed the window.

A little later I tried to re-boot laptop #2. I am
unable to boot and get the blue screen and Fatal Error
message.

I have tried to repair Windows 2000 with the W2000 CD
using the Emergency Repair process. I chose the automatic
mode. Now, I get an "NTLDR is missing" error when trying
to boot from the hard drive.

None of this works.

I am able to access the Recovery Console but don't know
what to do.

Please HELP!

Thank you,

Tom

PS I assume I can reinstall Win 2000 to resolve the
problem....but there has to be a better way.

.

 

[Tom M]

Steve,

Well, the calcs or secedit commands did not work from the
Recovery Console.

I am going to re-install into the existing C:\winnt
folder! I'm not looking forward to installing all my
applications again!

I just wish their was another way!

Thanks for your help! Tom

-----Original Message-----
When in doubt just enter calcs or secedit at the prompt in recovery mode to see
if they execute. If they do, you may be able to repair from there.

I have reinstalled into existing \winnt folder without loosing any data - you
will have a new profile created when you logon, but the old profile will still
be there where things like your my documents folder is located. I know it says
that you will, but I believe it is a warning to prompt you to backup and prepare
you for the worst just in case. Programs and settings will be overwritten and
that is why I said you will have to reinstall your applications, and security
patches. If you don't know what EFS encryption is, you probably are not using
it. You certainly could also install into a new directory and your data should
be fine as long as you do NOT format. That would be considered a parallel
installation. Ideally you should back up your data first before doing any
reinstallation by putting the hard drive in another computer running W2K and
copy the data to a safe place but that would be difficult with laptops without
special adapters. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;266465

Dear Steve,

Thank you for the reply.

I am also fairly certain I do not have access to the
secedit or calcs command in the Recovery Console. They
are not listed after typing 'help' at the C:\winnt
directory. I don't know about access to other
folders...but I assume I am not able to access them either.

Yesterday, I took a few steps into the reinstallation of
Win 2000 in the recovery console. I got to one step where
I was asked if I wanted to install Windows in the existing
C:\winnt folder or a different folder. I initially chose
the existing C:\winnt folder and I received a warning
about overwriting existing programs, settings, etc.....and
I'm almost certain is said 'DATA'. Did it mean ALL the
data in my entire C: drive????

And, I wonder what would happen if I chose a NEW directory
to install Win 2000...something like C:\winnt2 ? What
would happen to my application programs and data?

As a last resort, I am willing to reinstall Win 2000....IF
all my data is recovered (I don't know what EFS encrypted
files are).

Thanks for your help.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
I may be wrong, but I don't think you can repair the problem from the
recovery console. You would need to be able to run secedit or calcs, but I
don't think those are available in recovery console.

You
are probably going

to have to reinstall. However, you can do that by

booting
from install cdrom

and then installing into the existing \winnt folder [which will be detected
during install process] without formatting. At least

that
should leave your

data intact unless you had any EFS encrypted files that would not be
recoverable by normal means unless you had a backup of your EFS
certificate/private key. After reinstalling, you would need to reinstall
aplications on top of themselves and reapply service

pack
and critical

updates from Windows Update. You would have a new user profile created, but
your old one would still be available under documents

and
settings folder

where you could retrieve files such as emails and my documents. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;229716

Dear Experts,

I am a novice user. What I did was DUMB (right after I
hit enter I knew I had screwed up).

I have a 3 computer lan at home running Windows 2000. On
laptop #1 I logged onto the C: drive of laptop #2. I
clicked on properties of Drive C: and changed the security
settings. I set EVERYONE to DENY. There were NO other
permissions. I then closed the window.

A little later I tried to re-boot laptop #2. I am
unable to boot and get the blue screen and Fatal Error
message.

I have tried to repair Windows 2000 with the W2000 CD
using the Emergency Repair process. I chose the automatic
mode. Now, I get an "NTLDR is missing" error when trying
to boot from the hard drive.

None of this works.

I am able to access the Recovery Console but don't know
what to do.

Please HELP!

Thank you,

Tom

PS I assume I can reinstall Win 2000 to resolve the
problem....but there has to be a better way.


.

.

 

[Tom M]

Well, the reinstall did not work. During setup and while
files were SUPPOSED to be copying from the CD to the hard
drive....I received THOUSDANDS of different error messages
stating that "setup cannot copy the file: ______.___"
Press Esc to skip. I pressed escape in all of them. In
fact, I just held down the Esc button for about 5 minutes
to skip all the messages.

I am right back were I started. I continue to get
the "NTLDR is missing" when ever I boot from the hard
drive.

I'm lost!

-----Original Message-----
When in doubt just enter calcs or secedit at the prompt in recovery mode to see
if they execute. If they do, you may be able to repair from there.

I have reinstalled into existing \winnt folder without loosing any data - you
will have a new profile created when you logon, but the old profile will still
be there where things like your my documents folder is located. I know it says
that you will, but I believe it is a warning to prompt you to backup and prepare
you for the worst just in case. Programs and settings will be overwritten and
that is why I said you will have to reinstall your applications, and security
patches. If you don't know what EFS encryption is, you probably are not using
it. You certainly could also install into a new directory and your data should
be fine as long as you do NOT format. That would be considered a parallel
installation. Ideally you should back up your data first before doing any
reinstallation by putting the hard drive in another computer running W2K and
copy the data to a safe place but that would be difficult with laptops without
special adapters. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;266465

Dear Steve,

Thank you for the reply.

I am also fairly certain I do not have access to the
secedit or calcs command in the Recovery Console. They
are not listed after typing 'help' at the C:\winnt
directory. I don't know about access to other
folders...but I assume I am not able to access them either.

Yesterday, I took a few steps into the reinstallation of
Win 2000 in the recovery console. I got to one step where
I was asked if I wanted to install Windows in the existing
C:\winnt folder or a different folder. I initially chose
the existing C:\winnt folder and I received a warning
about overwriting existing programs, settings, etc.....and
I'm almost certain is said 'DATA'. Did it mean ALL the
data in my entire C: drive????

And, I wonder what would happen if I chose a NEW directory
to install Win 2000...something like C:\winnt2 ? What
would happen to my application programs and data?

As a last resort, I am willing to reinstall Win 2000....IF
all my data is recovered (I don't know what EFS encrypted
files are).

Thanks for your help.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
I may be wrong, but I don't think you can repair the problem from the
recovery console. You would need to be able to run secedit or calcs, but I
don't think those are available in recovery console.

You
are probably going

to have to reinstall. However, you can do that by

booting
from install cdrom

and then installing into the existing \winnt folder [which will be detected
during install process] without formatting. At least

that
should leave your

data intact unless you had any EFS encrypted files that would not be
recoverable by normal means unless you had a backup of your EFS
certificate/private key. After reinstalling, you would need to reinstall
aplications on top of themselves and reapply service

pack
and critical

updates from Windows Update. You would have a new user profile created, but
your old one would still be available under documents

and
settings folder

where you could retrieve files such as emails and my documents. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;229716

Dear Experts,

I am a novice user. What I did was DUMB (right after I
hit enter I knew I had screwed up).

I have a 3 computer lan at home running Windows 2000. On
laptop #1 I logged onto the C: drive of laptop #2. I
clicked on properties of Drive C: and changed the security
settings. I set EVERYONE to DENY. There were NO other
permissions. I then closed the window.

A little later I tried to re-boot laptop #2. I am
unable to boot and get the blue screen and Fatal Error
message.

I have tried to repair Windows 2000 with the W2000 CD
using the Emergency Repair process. I chose the automatic
mode. Now, I get an "NTLDR is missing" error when trying
to boot from the hard drive.

None of this works.

I am able to access the Recovery Console but don't know
what to do.

Please HELP!

Thank you,

Tom

PS I assume I can reinstall Win 2000 to resolve the
problem....but there has to be a better way.


.

.

 

[Steven L Umbach]

Ouch. It sounds like you "may" have a hardware problem such as a problem
with your hard drive, cdrom, overheating cpu,or maybe memory assuming your
W2K install cdrom is in good shape. If you are comfortable taking the case
off of your computer, make sure cpu fan is spinning and heatsink is clean.
You may be able to blow out the dust with compressed air or a good set of
lungs. Also check that your power supply fan is working. I have had similar
experiences as yours during an install and assuming it was not a bad install
cdrom disk, it was one of the problems I mentioned. Oops I think you said
you had a laptop that was giving you a problem? Well it could still be some
of the same things such as bad memory, hard drive, heat problem. I would
veryify that the install cdrom is good by trying to copy the contents of the
I386 folder on another one of your computers from the cd drive to hard disk.
I believe that your data may still be intact if you have not had a problem
with the hard drive itself. You can buy adapters off of Ebay or sometmes at
Computer Geeks for less that ten dollars that will allow you to install your
laptop hard drive [assuming it is easy to remove] as a secondary/slave drive
in a desktop to copy data off of or onto. You could also try the paralell
installation route, but my guess is you would get the same results though at
this point in time worth a try. You might also want to try posting at the
win2000.setup_deployment and hardware newsgroups. --- Steve

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2765963390&category=33870

Well, the reinstall did not work. During setup and while
files were SUPPOSED to be copying from the CD to the hard
drive....I received THOUSDANDS of different error messages
stating that "setup cannot copy the file: ______.___"
Press Esc to skip. I pressed escape in all of them. In
fact, I just held down the Esc button for about 5 minutes
to skip all the messages.

I am right back were I started. I continue to get
the "NTLDR is missing" when ever I boot from the hard
drive.

I'm lost!

-----Original Message-----
When in doubt just enter calcs or secedit at the prompt in recovery mode to see
if they execute. If they do, you may be able to repair from there.

I have reinstalled into existing \winnt folder without loosing any data - you
will have a new profile created when you logon, but the old profile will still
be there where things like your my documents folder is located. I know it says
that you will, but I believe it is a warning to prompt you to backup and prepare
you for the worst just in case. Programs and settings will be overwritten and
that is why I said you will have to reinstall your applications, and security
patches. If you don't know what EFS encryption is, you probably are not using
it. You certainly could also install into a new directory and your data should
be fine as long as you do NOT format. That would be considered a parallel
installation. Ideally you should back up your data first before doing any
reinstallation by putting the hard drive in another computer running W2K and
copy the data to a safe place but that would be difficult with laptops without
special adapters. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;266465

Dear Steve,

Thank you for the reply.

I am also fairly certain I do not have access to the
secedit or calcs command in the Recovery Console. They
are not listed after typing 'help' at the C:\winnt
directory. I don't know about access to other
folders...but I assume I am not able to access them either.

Yesterday, I took a few steps into the reinstallation of
Win 2000 in the recovery console. I got to one step where
I was asked if I wanted to install Windows in the existing
C:\winnt folder or a different folder. I initially chose
the existing C:\winnt folder and I received a warning
about overwriting existing programs, settings, etc.....and
I'm almost certain is said 'DATA'. Did it mean ALL the
data in my entire C: drive????

And, I wonder what would happen if I chose a NEW directory
to install Win 2000...something like C:\winnt2 ? What
would happen to my application programs and data?

As a last resort, I am willing to reinstall Win 2000....IF
all my data is recovered (I don't know what EFS encrypted
files are).

Thanks for your help.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
I may be wrong, but I don't think you can repair the
problem from the
recovery console. You would need to be able to run
secedit or calcs, but I
don't think those are available in recovery console. You
are probably going
to have to reinstall. However, you can do that by booting
from install cdrom
and then installing into the existing \winnt folder
[which will be detected
during install process] without formatting. At least that
should leave your
data intact unless you had any EFS encrypted files that
would not be
recoverable by normal means unless you had a backup of
your EFS
certificate/private key. After reinstalling, you would
need to reinstall
aplications on top of themselves and reapply service pack
and critical
updates from Windows Update. You would have a new user
profile created, but
your old one would still be available under documents and
settings folder
where you could retrieve files such as emails and my
documents. --- Steve

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;229716

Dear Experts,

I am a novice user. What I did was DUMB (right after I
hit enter I knew I had screwed up).

I have a 3 computer lan at home running Windows 2000.
On
laptop #1 I logged onto the C: drive of laptop #2. I
clicked on properties of Drive C: and changed the
security
settings. I set EVERYONE to DENY. There were NO other
permissions. I then closed the window.

A little later I tried to re-boot laptop #2. I am
unable to boot and get the blue screen and Fatal Error
message.

I have tried to repair Windows 2000 with the W2000 CD
using the Emergency Repair process. I chose the
automatic
mode. Now, I get an "NTLDR is missing" error when
trying
to boot from the hard drive.

None of this works.

I am able to access the Recovery Console but don't know
what to do.

Please HELP!

Thank you,

Tom

PS I assume I can reinstall Win 2000 to resolve the
problem....but there has to be a better way.


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