Everex Cloudbook...Another Linux Laptop Gone Down the Tubes? A Pattern Is Developing......

[Linonut]

* Tim Smith peremptorily fired off this memo:

Well, the fact that Asus sells a Windows version right now in Japan, and
has stated that they will release it in the US, are some big clues.

XP easily fits on a 4 gig system.

Easily? In the sense of being able to install MS Office or some games,
and then handle a half-gig of data?

Or just Visual Studio .NET by itself, along with a few of your projects?

Nah.

 

[Moshe Goldfarb]

Bah. Where do you get this information? What version of Windows fits on
a 4gb flash drive? And what is the payoff?

Charlie

It's all over the net.
Open your mind and you might find it.

http://www.mahalo.com/Installing_Windows_XP_on_Asus_Eee_PC

http://www.eeeguides.com/2007/11/installing-windows-xp-from-usb-thumb.html

and so forth....

 

[Moshe Goldfarb]

To an extent I agree. But people want Windows. They want to be able to
sync their phone and pda - all of which is painful if not downright
impossible on Linux.


You think there are no "low power" apps which people use and would use
on this pc? Wrong. Sorry. People ARE installing XP on it. People DO want
XP on it. I don't necessarily agree but others seem to want it,


People dont care about tweaking the OS. They want the apps they are used
to.


Agreed.

Exactly....

I agree that these machines are designed for web browsing, lite office
work, on the road kind of stuff but people want Windows.
They don't want Linux.

 

[Tim Smith]

Sure... get rid of the hibernation file, minimize restore points, make
sure you delete all the crap generated by Windows update... it can be
made to work with a bit of effort. Or you can run a Linux distro

Nonsense. I checked my XP SP2 machine that I use for testing, and it is
using under 2 gig for Windows. I put no special effort into making it
small.

 

[norm]

It's all over the net.
Open your mind and you might find it.

http://www.mahalo.com/Installing_Windows_XP_on_Asus_Eee_PC

http://www.eeeguides.com/2007/11/installing-windows-xp-from-usb-thumb.html

and so forth....

Did you actually read the procedure? It might be a bit daunting for a
windows user used to point and click. Also, considering the original
cost of the unit and then adding in the cost of xp, one might as well
buy a low end laptop from best buy. I just find it highly doubtful that
it is "most people" wiping linux and installing xp. ymmv.

 

[NoStop]

Did you actually read the procedure? It might be a bit daunting for a
windows user used to point and click. Also, considering the original
cost of the unit and then adding in the cost of xp, one might as well
buy a low end laptop from best buy. I just find it highly doubtful that
it is "most people" wiping linux and installing xp. ymmv.

All my friends that have laptops have done just the opposite. They've wiped
Windoze off and installed Linux. That isn't a big sampling of course, but I
would find it hard to believe that there would be that many people running
the EeePC who'd want to do anything with it, other than installing a
different Linux distro on it, then the one that it comes with. Even those
folks running the old Jornada 720's are putting Linux on them and that is
certainly the distant prelude to the EeePC.

Cheers.

--
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Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm

 

[Linonut]

* norm peremptorily fired off this memo:

Did you actually read the procedure? It might be a bit daunting for a
windows user used to point and click. Also, considering the original
cost of the unit and then adding in the cost of xp, one might as well
buy a low end laptop from best buy. I just find it highly doubtful that
it is "most people" wiping linux and installing xp. ymmv.

Not on the Eee PC. Some have done it; Tom Shelton here saw one.

I wouldn't waste my time on installing XP on it.

 

[charlie_wilkes]

Sure... get rid of the hibernation file, minimize restore points, make
sure you delete all the crap generated by Windows update... it can be
made to work with a bit of effort. Or you can run a Linux distro

Nonsense. I checked my XP SP2 machine that I use for testing, and it is
using under 2 gig for Windows. I put no special effort into making it
small.
[/QUOTE]

Are you going just by the size of the windows directory and its
subdirectories, or are you also including your restore points and the
hibernation file if you use one?

I accept that it's possible, but it's enough of a project so I don't
see it as something the average consumer will do because he wets his
pants when he hears the word Linux. I also suspect that use of this
altered machine might present performance and stability issues with
500mb of RAM and < 2gb of drive available for temp files.

Charlie

 

[Tim Smith]

Are you going just by the size of the windows directory and its
subdirectories, or are you also including your restore points and the
hibernation file if you use one?

I accept that it's possible, but it's enough of a project so I don't
see it as something the average consumer will do because he wets his
pants when he hears the word Linux. I also suspect that use of this
altered machine might present performance and stability issues with
500mb of RAM and < 2gb of drive available for temp files.

Installing XP SP2 on a machine with a single 4 GB drive, rebooting once
after install, and then using Internet Explorer to browse a web page (to
make sure that the internet access is working), and then checking the
disk space, shows that 2.12 GB are used.

During the install, I let everything take its default value.

 

[Linonut]

* Tim Smith peremptorily fired off this memo:

Installing XP SP2 on a machine with a single 4 GB drive, rebooting once
after install, and then using Internet Explorer to browse a web page (to
make sure that the internet access is working), and then checking the
disk space, shows that 2.12 GB are used.

During the install, I let everything take its default value.

You might be able to pare down your Visual Studio .NET install to fit,
and have some room for a "Hello World" project, then.

Competition is good!

 

[Hadron]

* Tim Smith peremptorily fired off this memo:


You might be able to pare down your Visual Studio .NET install to fit,
and have some room for a "Hello World" project, then.

Competition is good!

Err, a while ago this was a machine for doing email and browsing the
web. Nice strawman Liarnut.