Windows Netbooks Account for 95 Percent of Sales... Linux Sales Drop Like a Rock...


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Doctor Smith

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/24700/1231/


"By October the story was different. MSI claimed Linux netbooks were being
returned four times as often as Windows netbooks. Their internal research
showed this could be attributed to consumers being turned off by an
operating system which was different to what they were used to."

People hate Linux when they try it.
No amount of "free" is able to overcome this.

"They then took it home, found they couldn¡¦t use it exactly like their home
desktop ¡V itself an unrealistic expectation ¡V and returned it, either
giving up or opting to spend more money to buy a Windows XP edition
instead."

If you think you hate Linux now, wait until you actually try it !!

"In my home country of Australia the present federal Government promised
laptops to school attendees during the election process.

Linux had the clear edge ¡V no other significant operating system can be
added without a licensing cost thrown in to the mix.

Yet, the winning solution chosen by the NSW Department of Education (DET)
was a Lenovo and Microsoft combination."

Sounds like the people in charge of making the decision actually tried to
use the Linux netbooks and gave up.

"Similarly, if the NSW Government won¡¦t tell me the hardware specs and
costings of the submissions they received then I decided I'll find out from
the vendors themselves.

My first replies came today from ASUS and Dell.

Marty Filipowski from Dell Corporate Communications first surprised me by
saying that Dell does not, in Australia and New Zealand, offer any ¡§mini
laptops¡¨ with Linux. I note Marty chose not to use the word netbook, but
more significantly, I¡¦m left amazed that Dell ¡V possibly the first major
brand to promote they were selling computers with Ubuntu Linux ¡V totally
ignore Linux in this region."

This is surprising?
Companies want to offer products that people are willing to buy.

Linux can't even be given away for FREE!

"When I asked why this was the case Marty advised Dell had been monitoring
the market and launched Dell Inspiron Mini products with ¡§the features in
demand by our customers.¡¨"

Like I said......

"Now, ASUS, to my mind, have been a pretty innovative company and are the
ones who boldly imagined that a low-cost low-powered system would have a
market. Yet, they surprised me even more than Dell.

Linda Vo from ASUS told me that ASUS¡¦ netbook sales are 95% Windows-based
and 5% Linux-based. "


Point is, despite what the freetards over in COLA will tell you, Linux
netbook sales dropped from 100 percent of the market to less than 5 percent
of the market once Windows versions were released.

Linux sucks.
Linux is a piker.
Average people just don't want Linux.

Exceptions exist of course, but they are not enough in number to make any
difference.
 
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JEDIDIAH

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/24700/1231/


"By October the story was different. MSI claimed Linux netbooks were being
returned four times as often as Windows netbooks. Their internal research
showed this could be attributed to consumers being turned off by an
operating system which was different to what they were used to."

People hate Linux when they try it.
No amount of "free" is able to overcome this.

Where exactly did you ever see an MSI netbook?

They never really existed.

This whole story about MSI is a total fabrication.

[deletia]
 
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measekite Da Monkey

Alias said:

BFD. HP sells an INFERIOR Linux distro. In real life, users will fire up
their machine, figure out what a piece of crap they have and they will
return it asking for Windows to be installed.

Remember, Ubuntu/Linux is FREE and is still on less than one percent of the
desktops out there. NOBODY wants to use that INFERIOR product.

People would rather pay for quality Microsoft products than use crappy Linux
Open Sores software.

Live with it.
 
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norm

Noel said:
Interesting that HP are offering Novell Suze Linux - since it's been
developed by MS, and is NOT free !
The following descriptions of the os in question (SUSE Linux Enterprise
Desktop 11) do not sound like something ms developed:
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9130344
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11
SLED 11 is built on Version 2.6.27 of the Linux kernel. You get two
choices for a desktop: GNOME v. 2.24.1 or KDE v. 4.1.3.
For the default file system, SLED 11 is now using the rock-solid ext3
instead of ReiserFS.
 
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Noel Paton

The following descriptions of the os in question (SUSE Linux Enterprise
Desktop 11) do not sound like something ms developed:
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9130344
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11
SLED 11 is built on Version 2.6.27 of the Linux kernel. You get two
choices for a desktop: GNOME v. 2.24.1 or KDE v. 4.1.3.
For the default file system, SLED 11 is now using the rock-solid ext3
instead of ReiserFS.
I may be overstating the case, but MS had a big hand in it - and
considerable money
Look at the three Sponsors on the left of the page here
HP/Intel/MS
http://www.novell.com/linux/

also look here
http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/
 
N

norm

Noel said:
I may be overstating the case, but MS had a big hand in it - and
considerable money
Look at the three Sponsors on the left of the page here
HP/Intel/MS
http://www.novell.com/linux/

also look here
http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/

Overstating is probably a fair assessment. ;) Sponsorship and an
interoperability pact do not necessarily equate to "something developed
by ms", as was originally stated. And if I understand correctly, what
one is paying for is support.
 
D

Doctor Smith

What part of *MY* MSI Wind didn't you understand?

I own one. It's sitting here on my desk next to me. I bought it at
MicroCenter about 4 months ago. Yes, in a brick and morter store.

Sarcasm On:

You're lying.
Why?
Because you have to be lying.

Sarcasm off:
 
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JEDIDIAH

What part of *MY* MSI Wind didn't you understand?

I own one. It's sitting here on my desk next to me. I bought it at
MicroCenter about 4 months ago. Yes, in a brick and morter store.

Now why did that little detail require something akin to an
impacted molar extraction to get out.

Yes... because you Lemmings being the ultimate HERD animal only
believe in the claims of other people you don't even know. Nevermind
your own personal firsthand experiences. It's like you're some sort
of religious cult that would burn anyone at the stake for translating
your holy writings into some vulgar language that the common man might
be able to read.
 
J

JEDIDIAH

Sarcasm On:

You're lying.
Why?
Because you have to be lying.

Sarcasm off:

Why does the truth require something akin to a tooth extraction?

The truth should be "easy".

The truth should kind of just fall out on it's own.
 
J

JEDIDIAH

This is going to come as a great surprise to the OSx86 community, where
the MSI Wind netbook is a popular choice for those who want an OS X
netbook. It violates Apple's EULA, but for those who aren't put off by
that, it

....again with the "my own experience is subservient to random strangers
I don't know" Cult of Bill mentality.
It will also come as a great surprise to Amazon, Target, Bestbuy, and
the numerous other retailers that think they have been selling them for
quite a while.

I've never seen one in a Target, nor a BestBuy.

You're conflating "mail order" with "brick and mortar" again.

Like I said: you might as well start talking about Microway at that point.
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

So your contention is that the MSI Wind does not exist, and Target is
*lying* when they tell me they can ship me one in 1-2 business days?

Bestbuy is lying when they say they can ship one in a week?

Amazon is lying when they say that if I order in the next 22 hours and
50 minutes, they will get one to me by Monday, May 4th?

Erik is lying when he talks about the MSI Wind he claims to own?

All the reviewers were lying in the numerous magazines who have reviewed
it?

Do you think everything that you personally have not observed does not
exist?

Perhaps Jedidiah is a solipsist.

Or a solecist.
 
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JEDIDIAH

So your contention is that the MSI Wind does not exist, and Target is
*lying* when they tell me they can ship me one in 1-2 business days?

No. It just makes it "yet another obscure mail order option".

It changes the dynamics of the sale considerably.

A Target end cap full of Linux machines is considerably more
interesting than any website. This is why Apple has their own stores
and why they also have their gear in many conventional retailers.
Their mp3 players are everywhere and their computers are in Frys and
Best Buy.

This was the final deciding factor that led me to have 3 Macs.
There simply weren't any PCs of that same form factor being sold
anywhere "physical". This meant that I couldn't "see the product
for myself" or "try it out" or see for myself if some of the FUD
about the product is really true.

Considering the keyboards on some of these netbooks and how
"cramped" they are generally, you would have to be pretty "faithful"
to buy one sight unseen.
Bestbuy is lying when they say they can ship one in a week?

Amazon is lying when they say that if I order in the next 22 hours and
50 minutes, they will get one to me by Monday, May 4th?

Erik is lying when he talks about the MSI Wind he claims to own?

All the reviewers were lying in the numerous magazines who have reviewed
it?

Do you think everything that you personally have not observed does not
exist?

Like I said... it would be like me talking about an Acer Revo.

Although you probably don't even have a clue what that is.
 
H

Hadron

JEDIDIAH said:
...again with the "my own experience is subservient to random strangers
I don't know" Cult of Bill mentality.


I've never seen one in a Target, nor a BestBuy.

You're conflating "mail order" with "brick and mortar" again.

Like I said: you might as well start talking about Microway at that
point.

You really should shut up and stop making yourself look so stupid at
times. You claimed they never existed.

You were talking bullshit to cover up Linux failure. You were corrected
and you continue to squirm and fabricate stories to cover your lying
ass.

fess up man. You told lies. You were caught. Get over it.

Telling lies to "advocate" Linux is no way for a man to live his life
son.
 
H

Hadron

JEDIDIAH said:
IOW, the only thing you've ever seen this thing is in a wikipedia article.

That makes this thing about as real as the flying spaghetti
monster.

Crikey. Jeb falls to new levels of stupidity. The word "my" is still
playing havoc with his antiquated brain.
 
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JEDIDIAH

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
Crikey. Jeb falls to new levels of stupidity. The word "my" is still
playing havoc with his antiquated brain.

Not at all.

Someone whining about "his" personal experience doesn't need to cite
an Encyclopedia of all things in order to make his point. If anything, all
this does is make "his" alleged personal experience seem like a fabrication.
 

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