Error code 81000314 - suggested solution

G

Guest

This is one of the solutions that you might want to try....
The basis of it is uninstalling using brute force, and I've tried this on 2
different accounts, and 2 different computers experiencing the same problem,
and both had been successful. The nature of this problem looks as if it lies
on the server, but somehow, this is not exactly what happens, and I don't
know why.
Try this if you are experiencing error 81000314, yet the service status is
OK, and you can sign in via Windows Messenger and www.e-messenger.net.
This problem existed since BETA 2, I didn't report it because I couldn't
reproduce the problem, and I don't know how exactly it happened, as it was my
sister's accunt on her computer.
Try this at your own risk (actually not much risk involved)

[My solution]
*This process should be started about 12 hours after this error is
encountered. I am suspecting that it was first a temporary server problem,
but then Live Messenger took it as a permanent problem, so you can't sign in
even though the service is now available.

First, uninstall Windows Live Messenger.
Then go to Messenger Support Space
(http://messenger-support.spaces.msn.com/) and refer to the article titled
"Steps to fix the sign-in error 80004005 for Windows Live Messenger"
submitted on July 12, and do as it says, if the folders mentioned are still
present.
Go to C:\Documents and Settings\%current user%\Application Data\Microsoft\ ,
backup the folder "MSN Messenger" (by renaming it or moving it to another
folder/location) to retain your avatars and emoticons and delete the original
folder if it is still present.
I also deleted the folder "C:\Documents and Settings\Hiew Khee Chun\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Messenger"
Also delete "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger" if it is still present.
Backup and delete "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows
Live"

Here comes the tougher part:
Open Registry Editor (Run "regedit"). You might want to backup your registry
first before proceeding.
Find "MSN Messenger" and "MSNMessenger" and delete all the keys, values, and
data that contains the keywords, except for the one involving Audio Codec.
If the value or data contains the keywords, and you know that the whole
key(folder) is for MSN Messenger, then you may delete the whole key,
especially those keys with long random numbers.
If the key contains values of other applications, which should be obvious,
try to delete the value only.
Make sure the whole key "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger",
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSNMessenger" are deleted, I suspect
that those are the culprits.
Also delete HKEY_USERS\%some numbers%\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger when
you find it.
Restart computer, then reinstall messenger, and copy back the backed up files.


N.B. Most of the steps might be redundant, I don't know which is the key to
it, but I didn't want to waste my time on trial n error for each step. Please
inform me if anyone tried to workout on this.
 
J

Jonathan Kay [MVP]

Greetings,

I'm afraid this is a bit ridiculous. If you are getting this error message in Windows Live
Messenger, it's server-based and will fix itself. Deleting files, registry keys and copying
things aren't going to do anything.

You can however, sign in on WebMessenger and e-messenger and several other clients because
the protocol is completely different and the server resources required to log into Windows
Live Messenger aren't needed (so you're basically bypassing the problem).

The reason why this process may have appeared to work for someone is because the problem was
fixed by the time all these steps were carried out.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--

KheeChun said:
This is one of the solutions that you might want to try....
The basis of it is uninstalling using brute force, and I've tried this on 2
different accounts, and 2 different computers experiencing the same problem,
and both had been successful. The nature of this problem looks as if it lies
on the server, but somehow, this is not exactly what happens, and I don't
know why.
Try this if you are experiencing error 81000314, yet the service status is
OK, and you can sign in via Windows Messenger and www.e-messenger.net.
This problem existed since BETA 2, I didn't report it because I couldn't
reproduce the problem, and I don't know how exactly it happened, as it was my
sister's accunt on her computer.
Try this at your own risk (actually not much risk involved)

[My solution]
*This process should be started about 12 hours after this error is
encountered. I am suspecting that it was first a temporary server problem,
but then Live Messenger took it as a permanent problem, so you can't sign in
even though the service is now available.

First, uninstall Windows Live Messenger.
Then go to Messenger Support Space
(http://messenger-support.spaces.msn.com/) and refer to the article titled
"Steps to fix the sign-in error 80004005 for Windows Live Messenger"
submitted on July 12, and do as it says, if the folders mentioned are still
present.
Go to C:\Documents and Settings\%current user%\Application Data\Microsoft\ ,
backup the folder "MSN Messenger" (by renaming it or moving it to another
folder/location) to retain your avatars and emoticons and delete the original
folder if it is still present.
I also deleted the folder "C:\Documents and Settings\Hiew Khee Chun\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Messenger"
Also delete "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger" if it is still present.
Backup and delete "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows
Live"

Here comes the tougher part:
Open Registry Editor (Run "regedit"). You might want to backup your registry
first before proceeding.
Find "MSN Messenger" and "MSNMessenger" and delete all the keys, values, and
data that contains the keywords, except for the one involving Audio Codec.
If the value or data contains the keywords, and you know that the whole
key(folder) is for MSN Messenger, then you may delete the whole key,
especially those keys with long random numbers.
If the key contains values of other applications, which should be obvious,
try to delete the value only.
Make sure the whole key "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger",
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSNMessenger" are deleted, I suspect
that those are the culprits.
Also delete HKEY_USERS\%some numbers%\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger when
you find it.
Restart computer, then reinstall messenger, and copy back the backed up files.


N.B. Most of the steps might be redundant, I don't know which is the key to
it, but I didn't want to waste my time on trial n error for each step. Please
inform me if anyone tried to workout on this.
 
G

Guest

I didn't really believe that it is the pc's problem either, but somehow it
could be. It might be the server's problem at first but the pc took it as a
peremanent problem. For the first time I encountered this error, I waited for
a week and the problem still persists, that's why I took this step and
managed to solve it. It couldn't be so happen that the server got repaired at
the same time. And the interesting thing is, it happenend for the second
time. Considering the time span and the number of times, the possibility of
this happening is very low.

Jonathan Kay said:
Greetings,

I'm afraid this is a bit ridiculous. If you are getting this error message in Windows Live
Messenger, it's server-based and will fix itself. Deleting files, registry keys and copying
things aren't going to do anything.

You can however, sign in on WebMessenger and e-messenger and several other clients because
the protocol is completely different and the server resources required to log into Windows
Live Messenger aren't needed (so you're basically bypassing the problem).

The reason why this process may have appeared to work for someone is because the problem was
fixed by the time all these steps were carried out.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--

KheeChun said:
This is one of the solutions that you might want to try....
The basis of it is uninstalling using brute force, and I've tried this on 2
different accounts, and 2 different computers experiencing the same problem,
and both had been successful. The nature of this problem looks as if it lies
on the server, but somehow, this is not exactly what happens, and I don't
know why.
Try this if you are experiencing error 81000314, yet the service status is
OK, and you can sign in via Windows Messenger and www.e-messenger.net.
This problem existed since BETA 2, I didn't report it because I couldn't
reproduce the problem, and I don't know how exactly it happened, as it was my
sister's accunt on her computer.
Try this at your own risk (actually not much risk involved)

[My solution]
*This process should be started about 12 hours after this error is
encountered. I am suspecting that it was first a temporary server problem,
but then Live Messenger took it as a permanent problem, so you can't sign in
even though the service is now available.

First, uninstall Windows Live Messenger.
Then go to Messenger Support Space
(http://messenger-support.spaces.msn.com/) and refer to the article titled
"Steps to fix the sign-in error 80004005 for Windows Live Messenger"
submitted on July 12, and do as it says, if the folders mentioned are still
present.
Go to C:\Documents and Settings\%current user%\Application Data\Microsoft\ ,
backup the folder "MSN Messenger" (by renaming it or moving it to another
folder/location) to retain your avatars and emoticons and delete the original
folder if it is still present.
I also deleted the folder "C:\Documents and Settings\Hiew Khee Chun\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Messenger"
Also delete "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger" if it is still present.
Backup and delete "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows
Live"

Here comes the tougher part:
Open Registry Editor (Run "regedit"). You might want to backup your registry
first before proceeding.
Find "MSN Messenger" and "MSNMessenger" and delete all the keys, values, and
data that contains the keywords, except for the one involving Audio Codec.
If the value or data contains the keywords, and you know that the whole
key(folder) is for MSN Messenger, then you may delete the whole key,
especially those keys with long random numbers.
If the key contains values of other applications, which should be obvious,
try to delete the value only.
Make sure the whole key "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger",
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSNMessenger" are deleted, I suspect
that those are the culprits.
Also delete HKEY_USERS\%some numbers%\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger when
you find it.
Restart computer, then reinstall messenger, and copy back the backed up files.


N.B. Most of the steps might be redundant, I don't know which is the key to
it, but I didn't want to waste my time on trial n error for each step. Please
inform me if anyone tried to workout on this.
 
G

Guest

Could it be that MSN Messenger is caching it's server credientials, and not
trying to connect to other servers to login?

KheeChun said:
I didn't really believe that it is the pc's problem either, but somehow it
could be. It might be the server's problem at first but the pc took it as a
peremanent problem. For the first time I encountered this error, I waited for
a week and the problem still persists, that's why I took this step and
managed to solve it. It couldn't be so happen that the server got repaired at
the same time. And the interesting thing is, it happenend for the second
time. Considering the time span and the number of times, the possibility of
this happening is very low.

Jonathan Kay said:
Greetings,

I'm afraid this is a bit ridiculous. If you are getting this error message in Windows Live
Messenger, it's server-based and will fix itself. Deleting files, registry keys and copying
things aren't going to do anything.

You can however, sign in on WebMessenger and e-messenger and several other clients because
the protocol is completely different and the server resources required to log into Windows
Live Messenger aren't needed (so you're basically bypassing the problem).

The reason why this process may have appeared to work for someone is because the problem was
fixed by the time all these steps were carried out.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--

KheeChun said:
This is one of the solutions that you might want to try....
The basis of it is uninstalling using brute force, and I've tried this on 2
different accounts, and 2 different computers experiencing the same problem,
and both had been successful. The nature of this problem looks as if it lies
on the server, but somehow, this is not exactly what happens, and I don't
know why.
Try this if you are experiencing error 81000314, yet the service status is
OK, and you can sign in via Windows Messenger and www.e-messenger.net.
This problem existed since BETA 2, I didn't report it because I couldn't
reproduce the problem, and I don't know how exactly it happened, as it was my
sister's accunt on her computer.
Try this at your own risk (actually not much risk involved)

[My solution]
*This process should be started about 12 hours after this error is
encountered. I am suspecting that it was first a temporary server problem,
but then Live Messenger took it as a permanent problem, so you can't sign in
even though the service is now available.

First, uninstall Windows Live Messenger.
Then go to Messenger Support Space
(http://messenger-support.spaces.msn.com/) and refer to the article titled
"Steps to fix the sign-in error 80004005 for Windows Live Messenger"
submitted on July 12, and do as it says, if the folders mentioned are still
present.
Go to C:\Documents and Settings\%current user%\Application Data\Microsoft\ ,
backup the folder "MSN Messenger" (by renaming it or moving it to another
folder/location) to retain your avatars and emoticons and delete the original
folder if it is still present.
I also deleted the folder "C:\Documents and Settings\Hiew Khee Chun\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Messenger"
Also delete "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger" if it is still present.
Backup and delete "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows
Live"

Here comes the tougher part:
Open Registry Editor (Run "regedit"). You might want to backup your registry
first before proceeding.
Find "MSN Messenger" and "MSNMessenger" and delete all the keys, values, and
data that contains the keywords, except for the one involving Audio Codec.
If the value or data contains the keywords, and you know that the whole
key(folder) is for MSN Messenger, then you may delete the whole key,
especially those keys with long random numbers.
If the key contains values of other applications, which should be obvious,
try to delete the value only.
Make sure the whole key "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger",
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSNMessenger" are deleted, I suspect
that those are the culprits.
Also delete HKEY_USERS\%some numbers%\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger when
you find it.
Restart computer, then reinstall messenger, and copy back the backed up files.


N.B. Most of the steps might be redundant, I don't know which is the key to
it, but I didn't want to waste my time on trial n error for each step. Please
inform me if anyone tried to workout on this.
 
G

Guest

That's what I'm suspecting.

Tigger5753 said:
Could it be that MSN Messenger is caching it's server credientials, and not
trying to connect to other servers to login?

KheeChun said:
I didn't really believe that it is the pc's problem either, but somehow it
could be. It might be the server's problem at first but the pc took it as a
peremanent problem. For the first time I encountered this error, I waited for
a week and the problem still persists, that's why I took this step and
managed to solve it. It couldn't be so happen that the server got repaired at
the same time. And the interesting thing is, it happenend for the second
time. Considering the time span and the number of times, the possibility of
this happening is very low.

Jonathan Kay said:
Greetings,

I'm afraid this is a bit ridiculous. If you are getting this error message in Windows Live
Messenger, it's server-based and will fix itself. Deleting files, registry keys and copying
things aren't going to do anything.

You can however, sign in on WebMessenger and e-messenger and several other clients because
the protocol is completely different and the server resources required to log into Windows
Live Messenger aren't needed (so you're basically bypassing the problem).

The reason why this process may have appeared to work for someone is because the problem was
fixed by the time all these steps were carried out.

--
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger/Windows Live Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2006 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
--

This is one of the solutions that you might want to try....
The basis of it is uninstalling using brute force, and I've tried this on 2
different accounts, and 2 different computers experiencing the same problem,
and both had been successful. The nature of this problem looks as if it lies
on the server, but somehow, this is not exactly what happens, and I don't
know why.
Try this if you are experiencing error 81000314, yet the service status is
OK, and you can sign in via Windows Messenger and www.e-messenger.net.
This problem existed since BETA 2, I didn't report it because I couldn't
reproduce the problem, and I don't know how exactly it happened, as it was my
sister's accunt on her computer.
Try this at your own risk (actually not much risk involved)

[My solution]
*This process should be started about 12 hours after this error is
encountered. I am suspecting that it was first a temporary server problem,
but then Live Messenger took it as a permanent problem, so you can't sign in
even though the service is now available.

First, uninstall Windows Live Messenger.
Then go to Messenger Support Space
(http://messenger-support.spaces.msn.com/) and refer to the article titled
"Steps to fix the sign-in error 80004005 for Windows Live Messenger"
submitted on July 12, and do as it says, if the folders mentioned are still
present.
Go to C:\Documents and Settings\%current user%\Application Data\Microsoft\ ,
backup the folder "MSN Messenger" (by renaming it or moving it to another
folder/location) to retain your avatars and emoticons and delete the original
folder if it is still present.
I also deleted the folder "C:\Documents and Settings\Hiew Khee Chun\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Messenger"
Also delete "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger" if it is still present.
Backup and delete "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows
Live"

Here comes the tougher part:
Open Registry Editor (Run "regedit"). You might want to backup your registry
first before proceeding.
Find "MSN Messenger" and "MSNMessenger" and delete all the keys, values, and
data that contains the keywords, except for the one involving Audio Codec.
If the value or data contains the keywords, and you know that the whole
key(folder) is for MSN Messenger, then you may delete the whole key,
especially those keys with long random numbers.
If the key contains values of other applications, which should be obvious,
try to delete the value only.
Make sure the whole key "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger",
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MSNMessenger" are deleted, I suspect
that those are the culprits.
Also delete HKEY_USERS\%some numbers%\Software\Microsoft\MSNMessenger when
you find it.
Restart computer, then reinstall messenger, and copy back the backed up files.


N.B. Most of the steps might be redundant, I don't know which is the key to
it, but I didn't want to waste my time on trial n error for each step. Please
inform me if anyone tried to workout on this.
 

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