eMachines EL 1210-09: Any Hope Of Installing XP Pro?

[(PeteCresswell)]

Got one of these things on sale at Staples with the intent of
putting XP Pro on it: http://tinyurl.com/ko6sn6

But when I boot from my MSDN DVD and then select XP Pro it's
throwing a blue screen. Something about "A problem has been
detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your
computer."

Driver issue?

Something around 64-bits?

Any hope?

 

[smlunatick]

Got one of these things on sale at Staples with the intent of
putting XP Pro on it:http://tinyurl.com/ko6sn6

But when I boot from my MSDN DVD and then select XP Pro it's
throwing a blue screen.  Something about "A problem has been
detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your
computer."

Driver issue?

Something around 64-bits?

Any hope?

The only "possible" problem that can be directly seen is that the hard
drive is using the SATA access mode, instead of the older PATA
emulation mode.

XP needs to have a driver to access the hard drive. If the controller
is using the SATA "enhanced" access driver, you need to add the driver
at the time of install, via a floppy drive. The eMachine does not
have a floppy drive inside.

 

[Guest]

Peter,

SMLunatic means this:

Visit the manufacturers site & get the SATA drivers, place on a floppy, put
in a USB floppy drive, press F6 in Windows setup then choose the oemsetup
file

Now me:

Why on earth would you think about installing 64 bit XP Pro? I have
flattened many machines like that on site & put 32 bit on providing they
have a 32 bit licence

I have a MSDN Platinum subscription. What DVD are you using? I will download
& take a look.

If you have the money for one of those subscriptions then why don't you have
the knowledge for the install too? Sure, MSDN is programming but I have a
MSAD & a MCSE and can do both

 

[Paul]

Got one of these things on sale at Staples with the intent of
putting XP Pro on it: http://tinyurl.com/ko6sn6

But when I boot from my MSDN DVD and then select XP Pro it's
throwing a blue screen. Something about "A problem has been
detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your
computer."

Driver issue?

Something around 64-bits?

Any hope?

It has a Geforce 8200 chipset.

http://www.emachines.com/products/products.html?prod=EL1210-09

If I go to Asus, I can download a motherboard manual for a board
with an 8200 chipset. This gives some idea what a full featured
BIOS might show as options.

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socketAM2/M3N78-VM/E4425_M3N78-VM_V4-manual.zip

On PDF page 65, the BIOS offers:

"Onchip SATA Controller" [Enabled]
"SATA Mode Select" [SATA mode, RAID mode, AHCI mode]

On a Vista computer, the company shipping it, would probably select
AHCI mode. WinXP does not have AHCI support by default, so a F6 driver
would be required. The easiest thing to do, for a test install,
would be to flip it to SATA mode. If your WinXP is at some
Service Pack level, then the default drivers provided should be
enough to do the job with SATA mode.

If you want to try an AHCI driver, Asus has this. 6.45MB and a lot
less than the 500MB chipset drivers. Of course, what are the odds
the computer has a floppy drive :-(

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socketAM3/M4N78-AM/NVIDIA_AHCI_SATARAID_XPVistaWin7.zip

Paul

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per SPAMCOP User:

Why on earth would you think about installing 64 bit XP Pro? I have
flattened many machines like that on site & put 32 bit on providing they
have a 32 bit licence

More a knee-jerk reaction than anything else. After thinking it
over, I opted to go with the flow and leave Vista on it.

A few things helped:

1) Installing FireFox gave a consistent UI that I'm familiar with
and can help the user with over the phone.

2) The PC wasn't too loaded down with marketing tools.
It had a few, but they were easy to remove.

3) Intended use is for somebody who will almost surely be doing
nothing more than looking at web pages - so there does not
seem to be much exposure to UI-related questions...
hopefully....

I have a MSDN Platinum subscription. What DVD are you using? I will download
& take a look.

Don't even know the year, but it's older than dirt.

If you have the money for one of those subscriptions then why don't you have
the knowledge for the install too? Sure, MSDN is programming but I have a
MSAD & a MCSE and can do both

Money <> Knowledge

Money <> Smarts

And.... the subscription was less than a thousand dollars -
giving me 11 XP licenses, MS Office and so-on-and-so-forth.

Better-than-break-even at twice the price IMHO.

 

[(PeteCresswell)]

Per Paul:

On PDF page 65, the BIOS offers:

"Onchip SATA Controller" [Enabled]
"SATA Mode Select" [SATA mode, RAID mode, AHCI mode]

On a Vista computer, the company shipping it, would probably select
AHCI mode. WinXP does not have AHCI support by default, so a F6 driver
would be required. The easiest thing to do, for a test install,
would be to flip it to SATA mode. If your WinXP is at some
Service Pack level, then the default drivers provided should be
enough to do the job with SATA mode.

I saw that when I was poking around the BIOS settings. It looked
like there might be something there, but didn't know enough feel
comfortable fooling with it.

Meanwhile, I've rationalized sticking with Vista.

But sometime later, I still might try the XP install.

Thanks.

 

[Kelly]

Or usb....

--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

Taskbar Repair Tool Plus!
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm

Got one of these things on sale at Staples with the intent of
putting XP Pro on it:http://tinyurl.com/ko6sn6

But when I boot from my MSDN DVD and then select XP Pro it's
throwing a blue screen. Something about "A problem has been
detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your
computer."

Driver issue?

Something around 64-bits?

Any hope?

The only "possible" problem that can be directly seen is that the hard
drive is using the SATA access mode, instead of the older PATA
emulation mode.

XP needs to have a driver to access the hard drive. If the controller
is using the SATA "enhanced" access driver, you need to add the driver
at the time of install, via a floppy drive. The eMachine does not
have a floppy drive inside.