Dual boot operating system

[Guest]

Hello I would like to do a dual boot operating system but with 2 hard
drives. I would like to use xp home on both hard drives. Can I use the same
licence for both harddrives since it is still one computer ? Do I need to
purchase a nother license ?
The hard drives are different in size and one is a serial ata drive. If I
did a dual boot on the same harddrive would I also need a nother license ?

Is there a reccomended dual boot software ? will partition magic 8.0 work ?


orchirdchild

 

[Dan]

Steve, why not use 98SE on one drive and then you can have a great old school
operating system to allow your computer to run old games.

: Hello I would like to do a dual boot operating system but with 2 hard
: drives. I would like to use xp home on both hard drives. Can I use the same
: licence for both harddrives since it is still one computer ? Do I need to
: purchase a nother license ?
: The hard drives are different in size and one is a serial ata drive. If I
: did a dual boot on the same harddrive would I also need a nother license ?
:
: Is there a reccomended dual boot software ? will partition magic 8.0 work
?
:
:
: orchirdchild

 

[Guest]

I like XP much better - can I use my Xp on both drives with the same
license ?

 

[Michael Stevens]

Hello I would like to do a dual boot operating system but with 2 hard
drives. I would like to use xp home on both hard drives. Can I use
the same licence for both harddrives since it is still one computer ?
Do I need to purchase a nother license ?
The hard drives are different in size and one is a serial ata drive.
If I did a dual boot on the same harddrive would I also need a
nother license ?

Is there a reccomended dual boot software ? will partition magic 8.0
work ?


orchirdchild

Technically yes, but activation doesn't care and will allow both. XP is
licensed for one concurrent install at a time and all other installs should
be removed to be in compliance with the EULA.
A dual boot system should never be installed to the same partition,
especially when they are the same OS.
If you want to do this for backup purposes, you should consider imaging
software as a better solution.
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[Guest]

I am doing this so one hard drive is clean for games and internet use and the
other
is for all my programs. Cant play games with certain software emulaters.
could you explain more on the license part. I did make the mistake of useing
the same licence on 2 computers and had to call in and explain which is when
I realized that I had used the same license on to computers. Will I have the
same problem since it is on to different hard drives but the same computer.
Can they detect I am using to harddrives ? Is it more of just hardware
detection which would be the same regaurdless of which harddrive I boot from ?

 

[Michael Stevens]

I am doing this so one hard drive is clean for games and internet use
and the other
is for all my programs. Cant play games with certain software
emulaters. could you explain more on the license part. I did make
the mistake of useing the same licence on 2 computers and had to
call in and explain which is when I realized that I had used the same
license on to computers. Will I have the same problem since it is on
to different hard drives but the same computer. Can they detect I am
using to harddrives ? Is it more of just hardware detection which
would be the same regaurdless of which harddrive I boot from ?

I thought what I said was very clear. I can't really think how I could
elaborate on it.

 

[Ron Bogart]

In

Hello I would like to do a dual boot operating system but with 2 hard
drives. I would like to use xp home on both hard drives. Can I use
the same licence for both harddrives since it is still one computer ?
Do I need to purchase a nother license ?
The hard drives are different in size and one is a serial ata drive.
If I did a dual boot on the same harddrive would I also need a
nother license ?

Is there a reccomended dual boot software ? will partition magic 8.0
work ?


orchirdchild

If you install XP twice - whether on same hard drive or alternate - you need
a second license. Partition Magic will work fine. There is also a product
called BootitNG with a free eval that will accomplish the same task.

 

[mrpsychology]

I would be to differ!!!! The liscence for windows is per CPU right? I
would want to say per motherboard, but it is per cpu right? That is what it
says on task manager. Life would absolutely suck if windows was liscenced
to a hardrive.
All you need to do is, unplug one of the hardrives and install the
windows on the other hardrive, then when you are done, plug the other
hardrive back in. Then when you want to go to the other operating system,
you will go to the Bios and go to boot priority. You will be able to send
files to and fro between the two.
EULA states liscence per cpu not hardrive. You have one cpu or one
motherboard and the two hardrives plugged into that one, it is not two
computers, it is ONE computer. That woudl be crazy insanity if Microsoft
could pull that off!!!! Hardrive is not a computer it is plugged into
motherboard. I have had it set up with two hardrives and it was worth it,
because i lost a shitload of time on reinstalls, so i had a clone on hte
other hardrive so i wouldnt lose nothing. I had no problems when i did it.
I have it set up differently now, i have x64 on one and 32 xp on my satas,
the reason i didnt clone it again is because i can interoperate by sending
files to and fro between the two so it is not needed that i have the two set
up that way in case i have to reinstall windows again.
If they are thinking of making liscences per hardrive that is
insanity!!!!! A computer is basically your motherboard and yeah the
liscence says cpu ok but what do they do on dual cpu systems? The
motherboard is the computer not the hardrive!!! So how the hell can
Microsoft say you need liscence on the same computer?!!!!! If they could
pull that off a shitload of people would get screwed, i mean that would be
absolute bullcrap lol. I know i only have one computer, i built it myself.

 

[mrpsychology]

Microsoft needs to understand the time that is lost to the user when they
need to reinstall windows and that is precisely why having two hardrives and
os's installed is necessary otherwise you lose hours of productivity. and
as far as i am concerned Microsoft is let off the hook easy becaues they
dont have to pay for the time lost. Especially on the reinstalls that are
not the user's fault.

 

[mrpsychology]

copy pasted from the eula agreement on Microsoft
1.1 Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
display and run one copy of the Software on a single computer,
such as a workstation, terminal or other device ("Workstation
Computer"). (right there it does not say hardrives it says cpus) The
Software may not be used by more than two (2)
processors at any one time on any single Workstation Computer.

 

[Michael Stevens]

I would be to differ!!!! The liscence for windows is per CPU right? I
would want to say per motherboard, but it is per cpu right? That
is what it says on task manager. Life would absolutely suck if
windows was liscenced to a hardrive.
All you need to do is, unplug one of the hardrives and install the
windows on the other hardrive, then when you are done, plug the other
hardrive back in. Then when you want to go to the other operating
system, you will go to the Bios and go to boot priority. You will be
able to send files to and fro between the two.
EULA states liscence per cpu not hardrive. You have one cpu or one
motherboard and the two hardrives plugged into that one, it is not two
computers, it is ONE computer. That woudl be crazy insanity if
Microsoft could pull that off!!!! Hardrive is not a computer it is
plugged into motherboard. I have had it set up with two hardrives
and it was worth it, because i lost a shitload of time on reinstalls,
so i had a clone on hte other hardrive so i wouldnt lose nothing. I
had no problems when i did it. I have it set up differently now, i
have x64 on one and 32 xp on my satas, the reason i didnt clone it
again is because i can interoperate by sending files to and fro
between the two so it is not needed that i have the two set up that
way in case i have to reinstall windows again. If they are
thinking of making liscences per hardrive that is insanity!!!!! A
computer is basically your motherboard and yeah the
liscence says cpu ok but what do they do on dual cpu systems? The
motherboard is the computer not the hardrive!!! So how the hell can
Microsoft say you need liscence on the same computer?!!!!! If they
could pull that off a shitload of people would get screwed, i mean
that would be absolute bullcrap lol. I know i only have one
computer, i built it myself. "Michael Stevens"

Exactly what do you differ with what I said? XP will activate and install on
the same hardware as many times as you have the space to do so, you are
supposed to remove the previous install before reinstalling, but it will
install and activate without any problem. You are technically in a
non-conmplience situatiuation with the EULA and to satisy the EULA you need
to remove all other installs using the same PK.
May I suggest as a terminology point, referring to a computer as a CPU is
not the correct terminology. The CPU is the hardware brain, but it is
useless without the OS

--
Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP
(e-mail address removed)
http://michaelstevenstech.com

 

[Michael Stevens]

copy pasted from the eula agreement on Microsoft
1.1 Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
display and run one copy of the Software on a single computer,
such as a workstation, terminal or other device ("Workstation
Computer"). (right there it does not say hardrives it says cpus)

CPU's are not the computer, the CPU is only a component of the computer.


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[Ken Blake]

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I would be to differ!!!! The liscence for windows is per CPU
right? I
would want to say per motherboard, but it is per cpu right?

No, it's per computer. A single license is all that's required to
run Windows XP Professional on a dual-CPU computer.

 

[mrpsychology]

The EULA states the cpu. Naturally the motherboard is the ocmputer not the
hardrive, the hardrive is a peripheral of the motherboard. I copy pasted
that from the EULA. Per hardrive not computer, what is more of a computer?
motehrboard or hardrive? it is not the hardrive that is the backbone of a
computer, it is the motherboard and the cpu. not the hardrive, that is
jjust microsoft trying to pull out money.

 

[mrpsychology]

right, and the computer is not hardrive, it is motherboard. Everything
plugs into the motherboard, the cpu does actually cpu is more integrated
that would be the hardrive because of the socket, the hardrive is on a cord
basically that plugs into socket on motherboard, everything plugs into
motherboard. Motherboards su pport more than one hardrive even if
microsoft likes it or not, and the hardrive is not the computer.

 

[mrpsychology]

Point being from the copy-paste, liscence per cpu not hardrive.

 

[mrpsychology]

That would be insane if a company would be able to tell me i have more than
one computer and then need another liscence, when i have ONE. That is just
'private logic' based reasoning, it is creative you can create all kinds of
rationales like well he does have one tower and one motherboard but
technically he has 3 computers since he has 3 hardrives, so yes he needs to
buy another xp pro to put on the second hardrive, yeah ok, even if you have
the monopoly in the business that crap dont fly!!!! I have one computer not
3.

 

[mrpsychology]

Microsoft has told me when i have activated windows, per computer' not
hardrive. 'per computer' they have told me that many times on phone, so i
am in full agreement that there needs to be a union for customers, because
that will be a dark day for end-users if Microsoft can now skew the liscence
to hardrive rather than computer, that will be a dark day for customers. A
very dark day.

 

[Ken Blake]

In

Point being from the copy-paste, liscence per cpu not hardrive.

As I said in the message you just responded to, and with which
you said you agreed, that is *not* correct. It's per computer,
not per CPU.

Here again is the message I sent previously:

"No, it's per computer. A single license is all that's required
to run Windows XP Professional on a dual-CPU computer."

And Michael says the same thing in the message quoted below.

 

[mrpsychology]

Right i was not in disagreement with him, when i read the statement of you
are in violation of eula even though it will still install that is whta i
was in disagreement with, becaues that implies that they see the comptuer as
the hardrive not the motherboard.