Downloaded Office 2007 but it didn't come with Outlook (Why not?)


J

jan

My kid is spending his junior year overseas, but I put MS Office 2007
from my CDROM onto his hard disk a few years ago. Now his disk crashed.

I figured it would be no problem to download the MS Office 2007 Home and
Student software (since I have a valid retail product key), and it wasn't
any problem to download Office 2007 Home and Student from
http://office.microsoft.com/backup

So, my kid downloads office, after entering his product key, and lo and
behold, the download from Microsoft is *missing* Outlook 2007. Huh?

Does anyone know how to get a legit MS Outlook backup download?
 
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BobbyM

My kid is spending his junior year overseas, but I put MS Office 2007
from my CDROM onto his hard disk a few years ago. Now his disk crashed.

I figured it would be no problem to download the MS Office 2007 Home and
Student software (since I have a valid retail product key), and it wasn't
any problem to download Office 2007 Home and Student from
http://office.microsoft.com/backup

So, my kid downloads office, after entering his product key, and lo and
behold, the download from Microsoft is *missing* Outlook 2007. Huh?

Does anyone know how to get a legit MS Outlook backup download?
According to this chart, Home & Student is the only version that doesn't
come with Outlook:
http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=380
 
W

...winston

MSFT Office 2007 Home and Student does not (nor has it ever) included
Outlook.

If you installed 2007 H/S it didn't install Outlook.

Are you certain you didn't originally (a few years ago) install a different
version of Office.

Outlook 2007 is included on the following Office 2007 editions
Standard, Small Business, Professional, Professional Plus, Ultimate, and
Enterprise

The only other method (if not installing one of the above editions
containing OL2007) to install OL2007 is to have installed the stand-alone
program which would have come with a unique product key for OL2007.



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....winston
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"jan" wrote in message
My kid is spending his junior year overseas, but I put MS Office 2007
from my CDROM onto his hard disk a few years ago. Now his disk crashed.

I figured it would be no problem to download the MS Office 2007 Home and
Student software (since I have a valid retail product key), and it wasn't
any problem to download Office 2007 Home and Student from
http://office.microsoft.com/backup

So, my kid downloads office, after entering his product key, and lo and
behold, the download from Microsoft is *missing* Outlook 2007. Huh?

Does anyone know how to get a legit MS Outlook backup download?
 
P

p-0''0-h the cat (ES)

My kid is spending his junior year overseas, but I put MS Office 2007
from my CDROM onto his hard disk a few years ago. Now his disk crashed.

I figured it would be no problem to download the MS Office 2007 Home and
Student software (since I have a valid retail product key), and it wasn't
any problem to download Office 2007 Home and Student from
http://office.microsoft.com/backup

So, my kid downloads office, after entering his product key, and lo and
behold, the download from Microsoft is *missing* Outlook 2007. Huh?

Does anyone know how to get a legit MS Outlook backup download?
Are you sure you don't mean Outlook Express? What was the crashed OS?
What OS is he now using?

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V

VanguardLH

Note: None of the components or the entire suite of any Office version
is freeware hence jan's post is off-topic to the alt.comp.FREEware
newsgroup.

Note: Not an issue with Windows 7 or any version or edition of Windows
hence jan's post is also off-topic that that newsgroup.

FollowUp-To was set to microsoft.public.outlook -- the only newsgroup
where jan's post was on-topic.

Don't shotgun your inquiries across UNRELATED newsgroups where it is
spam or, at least, off-topic noise.

download the MS Office 2007 Home and Student from office.microsoft.com/backup
the download from Microsoft is *missing* Outlook 2007.
"Home and Student". You expected the low-end *Home* edition to have
everything? Presumably you distributed one of your licenses from a
multi-license volume pack or you happen to have an Office 2007 Home &
Student install CD sitting around that you never used to install it on
your own computer so your kid didn't end up with a pirated copy. It was
an unused full *retail* license and not an OEM license? Why were you
surprised that your kid was missing the same components (Outlook, in
this case) that you are also missing?

The Home edition of Office 2007 does NOT come with Outlook. Look here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2007
(scroll down to the colored matrix chart)

Different editions have different sets of components and features.
Does anyone know how to get a legit MS Outlook backup download?
I only know of the *Office* backup downloads. I haven't seen a
standalone Outlook backup download. Some possible solutions are:

- Buy a standalone license of Outlook 2007 (~$140).
- Buy something other than the "Home and Student" edition of Office
2007/2010/2013 (~$190 for Pro OEM).
- Use an older version of Office that does include Outlook and ONLY
install the Outlook component from it. This means integration
features will NOT function, like Mail Merge or using Word as the
new-mail compose editor in Outlook.
(I'm using Outlook 2003 with Office 2010 Home & Student.)
- Use an e-mail client from a different software vendor. Examples: free
Thunderbird with the Lightning add-on for calendaring or EssentialPIM
(free and pay versions)
- Use the webmail interface to their e-mail provider.
- If included, use the mail client that came with Windows.
 
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J

jan

Are you sure you don't mean Outlook Express? What was the crashed OS?
What OS is he now using?
I do mean Outlook (OE freeware stinks).
Crashed OS was Windows 7.
New OS is Windows 7.
 
J

jan

Off topic in 'alt.comp.freeware'.
That's where I found all my information for how to download
MS Office.

It wasn't in the microsoft newsgroups but it was recently
in the freeware newsgroup.
 
P

p-0''0-h the cat (ES)

I do mean Outlook (OE freeware stinks).
Crashed OS was Windows 7.
New OS is Windows 7.
Well if Outlook doesn't come with your version of Office and you haven't
got a separate copy the only other thing I can think of is it comes
bundled with certain versions of Exchange. So perhaps you downloaded it
from work, or from a hosted Exchange provider.

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Certifiable criminal, Spineless cowardly scum, textbook Psychopath,
the SCOURGE, l33t p00h d3 tr0ll, p00h == lam3r, p00h == tr0ll, troll infâme,
the OVERCAT [The BEARPAIR are dead, and we are its murderers], lowlife troll,
shyster [pending approval by STATE_TERROR], cripple, sociopath, kook,
smug prick, smartarse, arsehole, moron, idiot, imbecile, snittish scumbag,
liar, and shill.

Honorary SHYSTER and FRAUD awarded for services to Haberdashery.
By Appointment to God Frank-Lin.
 
J

jan

So perhaps you downloaded it
from work, or from a hosted Exchange provider.
I'm trying to find the disk as we speak, so that I can figure out
myself HOW I got MS Office on there in the first place.

I just had "assumed" that it was on my Office 2007 disc but, you've
proven that it wasn't; so now I have to find that disc first to be
sure.
 
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J

jan

I figured it would be no problem to download the MS Office 2007 Home and
Student software (since I have a valid retail product key), and it wasn't
any problem to download Office 2007 Home and Student from
http://office.microsoft.com/backup
I found another Office 2007 Home & Student download site at:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/downloads/hs/

But, in the end, I must have had on the kid's computer an older version of
Microsoft Office 2003 Student & Teacher Edition.

Googling for how he can legitimately download this, I find it (again)
in alt.comp.freeware and NOT in the microsoft newsgroups (go figure),
so, it seems the freeware folks know Microsoft better than the Microsoft
folks themselves.

I found, in alt.comp.freeware, this link:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/m9ggpua
Which took me to Microsoft Support which took me to the download for Office 2003 T&S;
http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/2/3/6233A257-16BD-4C8D-BF4C-6FA59AF9213A/OfficeSTD.exe

This Office version does seem to come with Outlook, so, does it make
sense for me to have my kid download that instead?
 
J

jan

Note: None of the components or the entire suite of any Office version is
freeware hence jan's post is off-topic to the alt.comp.FREEware newsgroup.
This is true, but, interestingly, the ONLY place I found all the answers
was in alt.comp.freeware!

None of the Microsoft groups had the answer; but, a search in alt.comp.freeware
found the legitimate way to download, for free, both Microsoft Office
2007 Home and Student (from microsoft's web site) and Microsoft Office
2003 Student and Teacher Edition.

In addition, the Outlook guys didn't tell me that 2007 didn't contain
Outlook; the freeware guys did.

So, while it may be the wrong group, the freeware group rocks!
 
J

jan

Why do you post this in a _freeware_ newsgroup?
Because, when I had searched, ONLY the freeware group knew WHERE
to find the Microsoft downloads for Office 2003 and for Office 2007!

None of my searches in the outlook and windows groups uncovered
the Microsoft URLs to the 2003 Office S&T edition, for example.

Yet, the URL was found in the freeware group.

I suspect the freeware folks are more sophisticated than the
Microsoft folks, who only seem to know how to buy a CD from
the Microsoft Store, but, not how to back it up or save a
download for future use.
 
J

jan

Why do you post this in a _freeware_ newsgroup?
Isn't it considered 'freeware' the additional stuff that comes,
for free, like IE and OE, with the operating system?
 
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...winston

jan said:
Isn't it considered 'freeware' the additional stuff that comes,
for free, like IE and OE, with the operating system?
OE originally was included as part of IE4 (circa 1997). Thereafter it
was included in Windows up to Windows XP.
- i.e. it's not freeware but a Windows component

Outlook is not free-ware either....included with specific editions of
Office or as a stand-alone (purchased) program.
 
W

...winston

jan said:
I found another Office 2007 Home & Student download site at:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/downloads/hs/

But, in the end, I must have had on the kid's computer an older version of
Microsoft Office 2003 Student & Teacher Edition.

Googling for how he can legitimately download this, I find it (again)
in alt.comp.freeware and NOT in the microsoft newsgroups (go figure),
so, it seems the freeware folks know Microsoft better than the Microsoft
folks themselves.

I found, in alt.comp.freeware, this link:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/m9ggpua
Which took me to Microsoft Support which took me to the download for Office 2003 T&S;
http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/2/3/6233A257-16BD-4C8D-BF4C-6FA59AF9213A/OfficeSTD.exe

This Office version does seem to come with Outlook, so, does it make
sense for me to have my kid download that instead?
You've previously stated your Office was 2007. The tinyurl link you
provided appears to be for Office 2010 yet the redirect to the MSFT
Answers Office 2010 forum indicates a thread title of Office 2003.

- i.e. your 2007 product key won't work for a different version
 
B

~BD~

jan said:
This is true, but, interestingly, the ONLY place I found all the answers
was in alt.comp.freeware!

None of the Microsoft groups had the answer; but, a search in alt.comp.freeware
found the legitimate way to download, for free, both Microsoft Office
2007 Home and Student (from microsoft's web site) and Microsoft Office
2003 Student and Teacher Edition.

In addition, the Outlook guys didn't tell me that 2007 didn't contain
Outlook; the freeware guys did.

So, while it may be the wrong group, the freeware group rocks!
Microsoft Usenet groups 'closed' some years ago, Jan.

This is where to find answers nowadays:- http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us

Btw, *I* like the freeware group too! :)
 
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K

Ken Blake, MVP

This is true, but, interestingly, the ONLY place I found all the answers
was in alt.comp.freeware!

None of the Microsoft groups had the answer; but, a search in alt.comp.freeware
found the legitimate way to download, for free, both Microsoft Office
2007 Home and Student (from microsoft's web site) and Microsoft Office
2003 Student and Teacher Edition.

No version of Microsoft Office has ever been free, and if you found a
way to download them, it is *not* legitimate.


In addition, the Outlook guys didn't tell me that 2007 didn't contain
Outlook; the freeware guys did.

Then again they told you the wrong thing. Most editions of Microsoft
Office 2000 *do* contain Outlook. It is only the Home and Student
edition of Microsoft Office 2007 that doesn't.
 

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