Do I need all these?

[John John (MVP)]

You truly *are* an idiot! Dr. Mark Russinovich is a Microsoft Technical
Fellow. http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/techfellow/default.mspx

The list of Technical Fellows is pretty short, I don't see your name on
that list... oh wait, I see yours on another website, on the list of
most idiotic trolls to ever roam the internet!

John

 

[Twayne]

you can install all that

and install this instead:

http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.htm?sc_cid=mscom_hp

or use this weekly:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

Umm, in addition to would be OK, but to replace them would be folly. NO
APP can or will cover all the bases. And One Care's reputation isn't
all that solid either. Personally I wouldn't even (an ddon't) bother
with it, although I tried it out.

Twayne

 

[Twayne]

Well, windows defender isn't that powerful, I agree. But it's reailable
and works first time every time, something you can't say about One Care.
I have had it save the day though on come client's machines and I like
what it does. As long as something can't hurt, and is designed to do
good, it's worth having.

I don't care for One Care period so in my case it's not an issue.
Max Registry Cleaner I agree with.

I have to agree with whoever said you presume too much: You do. I
think you need to step back a bit and take a better look at the reaility
of these things and learn more about what they do. The list I use is
nowhere near the only list in existance, some are probably better too,
but for my use, they seem to support me well. I find little wrong with
other's lists of malware arsenals, in fact, and occasionally even check
out what they use/recommend. But in your case you aren't recommending:
Instead you're presenting your opinion as the only valid one and that's
clearly not the case.

Twayne

 

[db.·.. >]

i use one care without
issues, hence the program
by microsoft for microsoft
windows is a reasonable
recommendation.

 

[Twayne]

Well, you most definitely don't need any sort of registry cleaner,
unless you're deliberately trying to render the computer unusable.

Not true, but, IF you use a registry "cleaner", you need one that is
reliable and capable of reversing its changes. I've never had to
reverse a change, but I can see it being possible. Stick with the
mainstream and you'll be OK.
The downside of good registry cleaners is that they are expected to
fix all ills and that's just not the case. Often the registry has
nothing to do with the problem's symptoms, whatever they may be.
Why some have such closed minds about them I can't fathom and they
refuse to expand on it at all. What feeble reasons they have given in
the long ago past were never relevant to the situatiosn at hand even.
In the right situation, they can be system savers. I've never seen a
registry cleaner, mainstream or not, crash a system although I'm certain
it's possible. But so can the installation of most any application;
it's all related.

Sorry, but you're wrong. But that's nothing new.

Twayne

 

[Twayne]

Nope, that's the plain and simple truth. ( that is, unless you're a
complete idiot)

And that's another lie. Parroted, but still a lie. Closed minds seek
closed minds.

 

[Bob I]

And that's another lie. Parroted, but still a lie. Closed minds seek
closed minds.

Nope, reg-cleaners in the hands of novices are a timebomb, pure and
simple. To believe otherwise, is ignorance speaking.

 

[Alias]

Nope, reg-cleaners in the hands of novices are a timebomb, pure and
simple. To believe otherwise, is ignorance speaking.

I use Crap Cleaner's registry cleaner after an uninstall but I only nuke
those entries that are related to the program I uninstalled. I've never
had a problem from doing that.

Alias

 

[Twayne]

Nope, reg-cleaners in the hands of novices are a timebomb, pure and
simple. To believe otherwise, is ignorance speaking.

First, that's not even close to what you originally stated, nor is it
even as patently true as you would like it to sound. "Pure and simple"
is an interesting but meaningless phrase too, especially followed by the
ignorance statement.
It's fairly obvious you are simply parroting what happens to be
convenient for you at the moment as opposed to having researched or even
empirically working toward your own opinions. Being closed minded is
bad enough but parroting a close minded's drivel is the epitome of
ignorance, if that's really where you want to go.

You may go ahead and flame away and flop like a fish on a dry dock all
you want but that won't make you any less wrong-headed than you now are.
And I'm feeling obligated to tell you, I choose to no longer partake of
your attempted trollish posts in this thread. I've said what I have to
say and thus have no further need to communicate further with you.
Consider your lack of useful responses on the subject exposed.

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

Well, windows defender isn't that powerful, I agree. But it's reailable
and works first time every time, something you can't say about One Care. I
have had it save the day though on come client's machines and I like what
it does. As long as something can't hurt, and is designed to do good,
it's worth having.

I don't care for One Care period so in my case it's not an issue.
Max Registry Cleaner I agree with.


I have to agree with whoever said you presume too much: You do. I think
you need to step back a bit and take a better look at the reaility of
these things and learn more about what they do. The list I use is nowhere
near the only list in existance, some are probably better too, but for my
use, they seem to support me well. I find little wrong with other's lists
of malware arsenals, in fact, and occasionally even check out what they
use/recommend. But in your case you aren't recommending: Instead you're
presenting your opinion as the only valid one and that's clearly not the
case.

Twayne

AVG, at some point, have stated that other spyware removers do not live well
with AVG, and it is recommended that AVG is run without any help from other
spyware removers..

Re the presumption, I do not rate OneCare. Do you?


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

Then replace AVG with Avast.

Alias

I don't use AVG. Tell it to the OP..


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

 

[Alias]

I don't use AVG. Tell it to the OP..

It was meant for *anyone* using AVG.

Alias

 

[db.·.. >]

spywares in disguised?:

http://www.grisoft.com/ww.privacy

 

[John John (MVP)]

So what are you saying now? That AVG is spyware? That Grisoft
publishes spyware?

The privacy policy published on the link you provide is pretty well a
standard run of the mill privacy policy, almost all reputable companies
have a very similar policy. If you think that absolutely zero
information is stored and kept by others then you don't know how things
work. You've dug yourself in a Kimberley size hole, you may as well
quit before you go any deeper... or do you need a bigger shovel?

John

 

[HeyBub]

Windows Defenseless is just that, defenseless. Next you're going to be
saying that the OP should use Microsoft's registry cleaner in One
Care?

You're ignoring the placebo effect.

 

[Twayne]

AVG, at some point, have stated that other spyware removers do not
live well with AVG, and it is recommended that AVG is run without any
help from other spyware removers..

Re the presumption, I do not rate OneCare. Do you?

One Care? Nahh, don't have much use for it. I checked into it because
of the hpe, but ... it just didn't seem to live up to, well, anything,
to be honest. About all I could see it was good for was one's ego.

I've heard that too about AVG. Interestingly enough though it doesn't
seem to create any problems on my XP Home laptop. Maybe it's
application specific somehow. I HAVE seen issues with it though, esp
with apps like Norton Ghost, where you have to uninstall a lot of the
malware apps in order to get the install to work, AVG being one of them,
but then you can turn around and put them right back; go figger.
My latest copy of Norton Ghost 14 had a neat one: It spotted two
HOSTS entries it didn't like and refused to update unless and until I
either removed them myself or let it remove them. I had the current
MVPs.org version, so at first I doubted the error message, but it meant
it. I even redownloaded the MVP HOSTS file, just in case. There are
apparently two Symantec server addresses in the latest MVP HOSTS file.
Delete them and all goes well. Interesting if nothing else.

I play around with various antivirus apps on the laptop. I think the
worst one I've installed on it lately was Avira (anti_vir.com or
something like that). It got great reviews and all that so I thought
maybe someone new had come about. Maybe it's OK on some OS's but on XP
it tended to lock up on some of the silliest files. I found out about
it from my sister, who had installed it on the advice of some newsgroup
"guru" she frequents. Just a few days later she was back asking
questions about it locking up on some of the very same files mine was;
so I figured that was the end of that and away it went. I put her on
AVast and so far she's happy, but now I understand Avast is making the
non-preferred list, so guess I might have to rethink that. Oh well;
nothing else to do anyway<g>.

Cheers,

Twayne

 

[Twayne]

spywares in disguised?:

http://www.grisoft.com/ww.privacy

<shrug> So? What's your point? Other than problems with tense.

 

[db.·.. >]

freeware is not always
as free as people think.

i didn't know the software
was coming out of old
russia.

 

[Bill in Co.]

freeware is not always

as free as people think.

i didn't know the software
was coming out of old
russia.
--

There seem to be a lot of things you don't know. Keep listening, and we'll
fill you in.

 

[Twayne]

freeware is not always

There seem to be a lot of things you don't know. Keep listening,
and we'll fill you in.

We? There is no WE. tinw