Deleted Desktop Recycle Bin

[Daze N. Knights]

Went to empty out the recycle bin from the desktop on my Vista RC2 using
the right-click menu, accidentally picked "Delete" from the menu, and
the desktop recycle bin vanished. One couldn't even do such a thing in
XP . . . Now, how do I get it back?

 

[Guest]

Right-click desktop. Click "Personalize" Look in Left side bar for "Change
Desktop Icons" choose those you want (or don't want) to appear.

PS: I did the same thing today!

-Carl

 

[Daze N. Knights]

Right-click desktop. Click "Personalize" Look in Left side bar for "Change
Desktop Icons" choose those you want (or don't want) to appear.

PS: I did the same thing today!

-Carl

Thanks, Carl! A bit of a shock seeing one's Recycle Bin disappear, eh?

 

[Guest]

Thanks, Carl! A bit of a shock seeing one's Recycle Bin disappear, eh?

You bet! My first thought was "How will I ever delete another file ever
again!"

 

[Jeff]

Psst.
The recycle bin doesn't really delete stuff.
It just hides it!! LOL
To truly delete stuff; get a shredder.

Jeff

 

[Hillbilly]

You do NOT have to right click and choose personalize.
RIGHT click and on the menu that pops up there is a sub menu for desktop
icons.
That is where you choose hide/unide/ and the other stuff to do with them.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

I have been hammering on the Vista Team for a year and a half that folks
would constantly do this. "Delete" and "Empty the Trash" can get mixed up
too easily. It's the only desktop icon with anything like this kind of
pair.

 

[Daze N. Knights]

I have been hammering on the Vista Team for a year and a half that folks
would constantly do this. "Delete" and "Empty the Trash" can get mixed up
too easily. It's the only desktop icon with anything like this kind of
pair.

Yep. It will be a constant problem, especially since it has never been
so easily deletable before, and that's what folks are used to. I'm
astonished that they would suddenly change this in Vista.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Apparently an empty desktop was a fav configuration with somebody high up in
MS and he just figured everybody should live that way. The fact that all
one has to do is uncheck the box in personalization to do the same thing
didn't seem to satisfy him. The Vista team themselves commented in a chat
that they had quite a few folks in MS who didn't like the change either. "I
lost my Recycle Bin" will be the most frequent posting in here before long.
I think I've done it myself three times during the year and a half of beta
testing. I wonder if there is a registry entry that can take the choice off
of the context menu?

 

[Daze N. Knights]

Apparently an empty desktop was a fav configuration with somebody high up in
MS and he just figured everybody should live that way. The fact that all
one has to do is uncheck the box in personalization to do the same thing
didn't seem to satisfy him. The Vista team themselves commented in a chat
that they had quite a few folks in MS who didn't like the change either. "I
lost my Recycle Bin" will be the most frequent posting in here before long.
I think I've done it myself three times during the year and a half of beta
testing. I wonder if there is a registry entry that can take the choice off
of the context menu?

Amazing. It's almost like MS is playing a joke on MILLIONS of people who
are going to be freaking out over having deleted their Recycle Bin.
Well, I'm glad that I learned of this now, before people start calling
ME for help getting it back.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

You bet. The discussion involved a lot of MVP's and what we were trying to
tell MS was that half of our time in the Vista newsgroups were sooner or
later going to be about explaining to newbies why the darned thing vanished
and how to get it back. I dread it.

 

[Daze N. Knights]

You bet. The discussion involved a lot of MVP's and what we were trying to
tell MS was that half of our time in the Vista newsgroups were sooner or
later going to be about explaining to newbies why the darned thing vanished
and how to get it back. I dread it.

I can't believe MS wouldn't listen to you. It's sooo obvious. I've
actually deleted the durn thing and had to get it back two more times
since my last post to this thread. I'm not used to having the option of
deleting the Recycle Bin, and I can't imagine why it should be so easy
to do. How often does one need to delete it, anyway? It should be harder
to delete it, than to restore it, but MS has it the wrong way around.
Like you, I sure hope there's a reg hack to fix this.

I while I'm complaining, I just tried defragging for the first time and
was surprised to discover that it provides no information whatsoever as
to progress, etc. It just tells you it may take minutes or hours. Having
no clue as to whether it was actually making any progress, I gave up and
turned it off. Whose idea was it to dumb-down the defrag utility?

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

They didn't dumb it down. They wrote a whole new defrag. That one has
gotten negative feedback in TechBeta as well (concerning the lack of an
informative GUI). The team offered as a reason that it was designed to run
automatically (it runs once a week) and meant for folks who neither know nor
care about what defragging is. I guess they are dumbing down the users a
bit there, but there you have it. I think they got the message all right.
I suspect that the team just didn't have the time and resources allocated to
do much more than they did for release. It will go through iterations and
develop a GUI more to everyone's liking. It will probably show up
frequently in the Vista ng's also.

 

[Daze N. Knights]

They didn't dumb it down. They wrote a whole new defrag. That one has
gotten negative feedback in TechBeta as well (concerning the lack of an
informative GUI). The team offered as a reason that it was designed to run
automatically (it runs once a week) and meant for folks who neither know nor
care about what defragging is. I guess they are dumbing down the users a
bit there, but there you have it. I think they got the message all right.
I suspect that the team just didn't have the time and resources allocated to
do much more than they did for release. It will go through iterations and
develop a GUI more to everyone's liking. It will probably show up
frequently in the Vista ng's also.

Thanks for the information, Colin. I could see that the automation was
newly emphasized, set to run, as I recall, though, late at night, which
won't be too helpful, unfortunately, for folks like myself that turn
their systems off most every night. But I know lots of ordinary users
that ritually run the defrag, and they're going to be very disappointed
with the dull, non-informative GUI. I think that most folks that never
run the defrag themselves also turn their computers off each night, so
the auto will never kick in for them. Or will it run the next time that
Windows starts up, if missed?

 

[Bill]

i deleted the bin too by the same mistake, only one second passed though
when i looked, there it was again.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

As a side note, you do not have to be running Vista to use the Vista Help
and Support. It is also online at
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/default.mspx. This is useful
for answering Vista questions in the ng if you happen to be in XP at the
time.

The Defragmenter help page is
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/d19994eb-6648-464e-a0d2-072c920f18a61033.mspx

It explains how to change the schedule.

This is from a chat on defrag (TechBeta live chat on 7/26/06):

"Q: When does my computer get defragged if it is down at 1 AM on Wednesday?
A: Next time you turn it on, defrag will run 30 minutes after starting
Vista. "

 

[SteveC]

I wish there was a way to take that delete thing off the recycle bin cause I do it all the time; worse is the fact that when empying the bin, it always asks for confirmation no matter what you check in properties.

You bet. The discussion involved a lot of MVP's and what we were trying to
tell MS was that half of our time in the Vista newsgroups were sooner or
later going to be about explaining to newbies why the darned thing vanished
and how to get it back. I dread it.

I can't believe MS wouldn't listen to you. It's sooo obvious. I've
actually deleted the durn thing and had to get it back two more times
since my last post to this thread. I'm not used to having the option of
deleting the Recycle Bin, and I can't imagine why it should be so easy
to do. How often does one need to delete it, anyway? It should be harder
to delete it, than to restore it, but MS has it the wrong way around.
Like you, I sure hope there's a reg hack to fix this.

I while I'm complaining, I just tried defragging for the first time and
was surprised to discover that it provides no information whatsoever as
to progress, etc. It just tells you it may take minutes or hours. Having
no clue as to whether it was actually making any progress, I gave up and
turned it off. Whose idea was it to dumb-down the defrag utility?

 

[Malke]

I wish there was a way to take that delete thing off the recycle bin cause I do it all the time; worse is the fact that when empying the bin, it always asks for confirmation no matter what you check in properties.

There is, thanks to MVP Ramesh:

http://www.winhelponline.com/articles/142/1/

Malke

 

[SteveC]

Great; worked like a charm, and you can still delete it if you wish by highlighting the shortcut and hitting the delete key or do it under Personalize Icons. When in a hurry, it was too easy to hit wrong key! Thanks.

I wish there was a way to take that delete thing off the recycle bin cause I do it all the time; worse is the fact that when empying the bin, it always asks for confirmation no matter what you check in properties.

There is, thanks to MVP Ramesh:

http://www.winhelponline.com/articles/142/1/

Malke

 

[oua]

Went to empty out the recycle bin from the desktop on my Vista RC2 using
the right-click menu, accidentally picked "Delete" from the menu, and
the desktop recycle bin vanished. One couldn't even do such a thing in
XP . . . Now, how do I get it back?