Deepnet Web Browser (Too good to be true?)

R

Richard Steinfeld

Deepnet browser was just recommended here by RM and Laurie. I just spent
a half hour exploring the site. http://deepnetexplorer.com/

Is this browser too good to be true?
The descriptive material is mouthwatering. It's got tabbing, many
user-friendly features, considerate behavior, ad blocking, and the big
one: phishing interception. It sounds like the web browser that we all
yearn for.

The publisher seems to promise the highest ethical behavior: no
snooping, no cookies on their site, no nasty ads, etc., etc.

Unlike Firefox, the developer is a private company -- a company that
appears to be in growth mode, advertising for employees. What I could
not find is how this company intends to make money. They've obviously
expended considerable effort to develop and debug this product.

Some of you, in reading my posts, may have detected a concern about
covering our behinds with unknown software. Some software can create a
dependency that can be difficult to break when the user wants to migrate
to a different program. I've learned to think about this before taking a
plunge. So, I looked for clues. I didn't find much info to go on.


From the End User License Agreement:

"By installing an upgrade you agree that the terms and conditions of
this Licence (as may be amended from time to time by notices posted on
the Deepnet web site) will apply to the Upgrade."

They're covering themselves. However, you are agreeing to abide by their
future rules, unknown as present. Here in the USA, most of us have
entered into similar agreements with our banks and credit card
companies. It's not comfortable, but it's understandable. Nothing
unusual here.

"Deepnet may provide users with a default search engine(s) to assist in
Internet searching. Deepnet is not responsible for the contents of those
search engines or websites that they link to."

Now, perhaps they want to use Deepnet Browser to establish a user base
for a later bundled search engine. And they'll sell advertising on the
browser. And, perhaps that engine will be the only one that'll work with
the upgraded Deepnet browser. This is my hypothetical business model for
them. They'll be going against Google. Worst case: it could get nasty:
"Get hooked on my browser, we hook you on our mandatory search engine,
you see our advertisements (heh heh -- paranoid mode)." Hey: it's the
only clue I could find about their goals!

I could not find a physical location for the company. I think that
they're probably in Wales. Maybe just an oversight.

Bottom line concerns today:
- The program imports "favorites" from IE. If we want to dump Deepnet
later, will we be able to migrate Deepnet bookmarks into, let's say,
Firefox? Firefox provides a route from IE. But will it allow us to exit
gracefully from Deepnet?
- Will Deepnet be able to render .mht files (which allow us to store
many web pages in a single, simple flat file)?

I'd appreciate more input from y'all. This is all I found in a half-hour
of my own digging. What do you find?

Richard
 
B

Bob Adkins

Deepnet browser was just recommended here by RM and Laurie. I just spent
a half hour exploring the site. http://deepnetexplorer.com/

Is this browser too good to be true?

There's a lot of coolness in this program.

I trying it out right now, and struggling with it. It's hard to create
groups, and can not import CGP files from the plethora of browsers that use
them. It stores groups in an XML file, which is no fun to edit.

There are some stability issues too, but not too bad.

There is slow network activity in both directions that is not reflected in
the P2P. I'm neither uploading or downloading files, yet there's the slow,
steady network activity.

In a way, I like using Favorite folders as a group.

This is a very interesting program that I will be watching.
 
S

Simone Murdock

Some software can create a dependency

Not this: now there are (too) many software like this that seems made by
a for-next cicle [for n:=1 to 10 do CreateTabbedBrowser(RandomName);].

OK, this has P2P & anti-phising, but for a not-newbye user these aren't
so important; all the other 1000 & more functions are (more or less) in
Maxthon, Avant, GreenBrowser, Acoo, AmBrowser, FastBrowser, SlimBrowser,
the japanese too...

At the beginning, I thought they were similar 'cause starting from a
common source code (MyIE, if I remember right), but now, after years,
nothing is changed: a one add "mouse gestures", all other offer it in
the next release,....and so on.

The choice is difficult because they are very similar and the decision
is based on small features (if not only look & skin considerations).

If Maxthon (that I use) become shareware, I will use Avant or
Greenbrowser nearly without a learning period (only an initial
setting).

Simon


P.S. In this quiet & peaceful land of multi-tabbed add-on for IE, what
will happen when the next Internet Explorer (multi-tabbed) will come to
light ?
Medium/high end user will continue to use these programs, 'cause I doubt
that Microsoft will add so many features in a single release, but
perhaps it will ne enough for newbyes.
Surely there will be a great work to adapt these software to IE7, I
suppose.

Here it is some of the IE7 new features (still in Beta 1) from Microsoft
site:

- Dynamic security protection through a simplified architecture that
helps defend against malware and new ways to better protect against
personal data theft from fraudulent Web sites - a practice known as
phishing
- Faster and easier completion of everyday tasks with improved
navigation through tabbed browsing, inline search right from the
toolbar, shrink-to-fit Web page printing, and a more sleekly redesigned
interface (currently in its early stages as of beta 1)
- New tools to take users directly to the information they want
through support for RSS Web feeds that includes automatic discovery on
Web pages, basic RSS reading capabilities, and rudimentary support for
saving Web feeds as one of their Favorites
- Platform enhancements to improve compatibility and manageability,
including improved support for cascading style sheets (CSS) as well as
transparent portable network graphics (PNG) support

_______________________________________________________
"Try not! Do, or do not. There is no try."
by Yoda, Jedi Master (from anonymous poster)
( remove/togli 'FalselinK' to reply/per rispondere )
 
K

kenny

Avant is the best

www.avantbrowser.com


Simone Murdock said:
Some software can create a dependency

Not this: now there are (too) many software like this that seems made by
a for-next cicle [for n:=1 to 10 do CreateTabbedBrowser(RandomName);].

OK, this has P2P & anti-phising, but for a not-newbye user these aren't
so important; all the other 1000 & more functions are (more or less) in
Maxthon, Avant, GreenBrowser, Acoo, AmBrowser, FastBrowser, SlimBrowser,
the japanese too...

At the beginning, I thought they were similar 'cause starting from a
common source code (MyIE, if I remember right), but now, after years,
nothing is changed: a one add "mouse gestures", all other offer it in
the next release,....and so on.

The choice is difficult because they are very similar and the decision
is based on small features (if not only look & skin considerations).

If Maxthon (that I use) become shareware, I will use Avant or
Greenbrowser nearly without a learning period (only an initial
setting).

Simon


P.S. In this quiet & peaceful land of multi-tabbed add-on for IE, what
will happen when the next Internet Explorer (multi-tabbed) will come to
light ?
Medium/high end user will continue to use these programs, 'cause I doubt
that Microsoft will add so many features in a single release, but
perhaps it will ne enough for newbyes.
Surely there will be a great work to adapt these software to IE7, I
suppose.

Here it is some of the IE7 new features (still in Beta 1) from Microsoft
site:

- Dynamic security protection through a simplified architecture that
helps defend against malware and new ways to better protect against
personal data theft from fraudulent Web sites - a practice known as
phishing
- Faster and easier completion of everyday tasks with improved
navigation through tabbed browsing, inline search right from the
toolbar, shrink-to-fit Web page printing, and a more sleekly redesigned
interface (currently in its early stages as of beta 1)
- New tools to take users directly to the information they want
through support for RSS Web feeds that includes automatic discovery on
Web pages, basic RSS reading capabilities, and rudimentary support for
saving Web feeds as one of their Favorites
- Platform enhancements to improve compatibility and manageability,
including improved support for cascading style sheets (CSS) as well as
transparent portable network graphics (PNG) support

_______________________________________________________
"Try not! Do, or do not. There is no try."
by Yoda, Jedi Master (from anonymous poster)
( remove/togli 'FalselinK' to reply/per rispondere )
 
B

Bob Adkins

P.S. In this quiet & peaceful land of multi-tabbed add-on for IE, what
will happen when the next Internet Explorer (multi-tabbed) will come to
light ?

Used IE7 for a while. Maxthon works just fine running on top of it.
 
O

omziff

Heya Bob, is that a suspicion that Maxthon will become shareware, or
did you hear something?
 
B

Bill Turner

Simone said:
OK, this has P2P & anti-phising, but for a not-newbye user these
aren't so important; all the other 1000 & more functions are (more or
less) in Maxthon, Avant, GreenBrowser, Acoo, AmBrowser, FastBrowser,
SlimBrowser, the japanese too..
_________________________________________________

DeepNet has one advantage over Maxthon: A built in autologin feature.
With Maxthon you have to install RoboForm, with DeepNet it's already
there. And DeepNet does .mht files too. What more could one ask?

BTW, I liked RoboForm enough to purchase the full version. Wish I'd
heard of DeepNet first.

Bill T.
 
S

Simone Murdock

Heya Bob, is that a suspicion that Maxthon will become shareware

It would be stupid: there are too many clones free (but I think it will
not be)

Simon
_______________________________________________________
"Try not! Do, or do not. There is no try."
by Yoda, Jedi Master (from anonymous poster)
( remove/togli 'FalselinK' to reply/per rispondere )
 
S

Simone Murdock


"Best" is a big word: "the best" must have every feature of the other
similar softwares plus something more.

At a brief look, Avant seems to lack Tab-Locking, sticky name, quick
close button on tab, super drag & drop, full control on number & speed
of opening of new tabs, auto-save features, download manager
integration, choice among different favourites menu (useful the single
column if you have many bookmarks), choice to use or not favicon or
system icons for bookmarks, editing of domain completation, plugin
handling, external utilities bar... but I don't think Maxthon is the
best, 'cause e.g. Avant has a better interface for mouse gestures and
probably has other better features.


Simon
_______________________________________________________
"Try not! Do, or do not. There is no try."
by Yoda, Jedi Master (from anonymous poster)
( remove/togli 'FalselinK' to reply/per rispondere )
 
K

kenny

Your assumption that "best" means having all the features available is
wrong.
"best" means versitile, stable, quick, fun, smart, small, compatible.... and
harmonized into a whole that functions great.

Avant is that.
 
H

hummingbird

Your assumption that "best" means having all the features available is
wrong.
"best" means versitile, stable, quick, fun, smart, small, compatible.... and
harmonized into a whole that functions great.

Avant is that.

Except that I can't get it to render .mht documents even though I have
the box ticked in the options panel. Any idea why?
 
B

Bob Adkins

BTW, I liked RoboForm enough to purchase the full version. Wish I'd
heard of DeepNet first.

Maxthon has a rudimentary built-in form filler. Don't know when was the last
time I had to log in to a web site.

Yes, DeepNet has great possibilities!
 
K

kenny

There is no such thing as a "relavent" best.
There is one ultimate best.
This statment is Best.

While your statment cannot be best because as you say it is relavent.
So you cancel out your own statment.

Idiot.
 
S

Simone Murdock

"best" means versitile, stable, quick, fun, smart, small, compatible.... and
harmonized into a whole that functions great.
Avant is that.

I don't think: I've tried it for a while, but I didn't find it funnier
(??), smarter, quicker...but only lacking some features .

Give us some arguments, no slogans.

Simon

_______________________________________________________
"Try not! Do, or do not. There is no try."
by Yoda, Jedi Master (from anonymous poster)
( remove/togli 'FalselinK' to reply/per rispondere )
 
F

Fuzzy Logic

kenny said:
Your assumption that "best" means having all the features available is
wrong.
"best" means versitile, stable, quick, fun, smart, small, compatible....
and harmonized into a whole that functions great.

Avant is that.

Best is what does what YOU want. What's best for me may be useless to you
and vice versa.

Having said that I have looked at pretty much all the tabbed IE shells and
decided Avant is the one for me.
 
F

Fuzzy Logic

Except that I can't get it to render .mht documents even though I have
the box ticked in the options panel. Any idea why?

Works for me. Avant 10.1 build 22 with Windows XP Pro.
 
M

Mike Andrade

There is no such thing as a "relavent" best.
There is one ultimate best.
This statment is Best.

While your statment cannot be best because as you say it is
relavent. So you cancel out your own statment.

Idiot.

I think I'll just let this little bit of stupidity stand on it's
own. LOL.
 

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