DDR500 PC4000 motherboards?

[Christo]

i know you can buy ddr500 pc4000 ram but are there any main boards that will
support this memory?

I'v got a friend asking me to build him a system with top spec of
everything, he has a budget of £3000 roughly ($5000 - $7000) with that much
he can afford to go splash out on a fancy graphics card and an AMD64
processor, i have just been looking at memory modules,

ddr500 are there any main boards anyone knows that will support this
memory... and run it at its top speed, (not 200mhz)

 

[Cuzman]

" i know you can buy ddr500 pc4000 ram but are there any main boards that
will support this memory? "


I know of none that officially support asynchronous DDR500 speeds.

Everyone argues over whether it is worth waiting for 'the next big thing' to
be released before upgrading / building a system. In the case of spending
£3000, I would wait for the Nforce4 PCI-E SLI chipsets to arrive before you
start shopping. http://www.amdboard.com/nforce4.html

 

[Christo]

I know of none that officially support asynchronous DDR500 speeds.

Everyone argues over whether it is worth waiting for 'the next big thing' to
be released before upgrading / building a system. In the case of spending
£3000, I would wait for the Nforce4 PCI-E SLI chipsets to arrive before you
start shopping. http://www.amdboard.com/nforce4.html

ahh nice.. PCI express, hmm i'm thinking now

i just upgraded my own system to an nForce2 lol and nForce 4 is being
released

its impossible to keep up with it these days!

i bought a ipod 3G and the next week ipod 4G came out

lol thanks for the advice by the way

 

[DaveW]

No; and there won't be until DDR2 comes out.

 

[General Schvantzkoph]

i know you can buy ddr500 pc4000 ram but are there any main boards that will
support this memory?

I'v got a friend asking me to build him a system with top spec of
everything, he has a budget of £3000 roughly ($5000 - $7000) with that much
he can afford to go splash out on a fancy graphics card and an AMD64
processor, i have just been looking at memory modules,

ddr500 are there any main boards anyone knows that will support this
memory... and run it at its top speed, (not 200mhz)

On that budget do a dual Opteron not an Athlon64 of Athlon64FX. Don't
waste money on pc4000 RAM assuming it even exists, put 2G of PC3200 on
each processor instead. More RAM is much more important than RAM speed.

 

[Chris]

i know you can buy ddr500 pc4000 ram but are there any main boards that will
support this memory?

I'v got a friend asking me to build him a system with top spec of
everything, he has a budget of £3000 roughly ($5000 - $7000) with that much
he can afford to go splash out on a fancy graphics card and an AMD64
processor, i have just been looking at memory modules,

ddr500 are there any main boards anyone knows that will support this
memory... and run it at its top speed, (not 200mhz)

Just about all socket 775 Intel chipset boards will use DDR2 PC 5300 and run
it at full speed, what is the point buying a slower chip that runs 64
bit when Microsoft have now said that the OS will not be available until
November 2006 and they have promptly sided with Intel as SP2 contains SSE3
instructions that only Intel use. These new boards also use PCI Express
graphics cards and mainly SATA hard drives which when you put the 3.6GHz
chip in is just amazing.

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[kony]

Just about all socket 775 Intel chipset boards will use DDR2 PC 5300 and run
it at full speed, what is the point buying a slower chip that runs 64
bit

That only the MHz is lower, the chip isn't slower. On
average it is faster and uses less power too. At older
apps, even the old Athlon XP is often faster. 64bit is just
growing room, doesn't need to be considered yet.

...when Microsoft have now said that the OS will not be available until
November 2006 and they have promptly sided with Intel as SP2 contains SSE3
instructions that only Intel use.

Oh? They won't let AMD's chips use SSE3?

These new boards also use PCI Express
graphics cards and mainly SATA hard drives which when you put the 3.6GHz
chip in is just amazing.

3.6GHz chip is amazingly hot running. Performance is good,
but not good enough. Main strength of an intel platform is
the intel motherboard chipset, goodies like SB integrated
SATA and separate link to GB nic, but they were only a
leading there for a moment, PCI-Express pretty much makes it
irrelevant if something had that kind of dedicated port
instead of being on the bus.

 

[General Schvantzkoph]

That only the MHz is lower, the chip isn't slower. On
average it is faster and uses less power too. At older
apps, even the old Athlon XP is often faster. 64bit is just
growing room, doesn't need to be considered yet.



Oh? They won't let AMD's chips use SSE3?

AMD doesn't support SSE3 yet, but so what. The SSE instructions are used
by a very limited number of applications. The Athlon64 is much faster than
the P4 on all common computing tasks.

 

[Christo]

No; and there won't be until DDR2 comes out.

ddr2 is out man you can buy ddr2 memory right now

 

[Skeleton Man]

...when Microsoft have now said that the OS will not be available until

AMD doesn't support SSE3 yet, but so what. The SSE instructions are used
by a very limited number of applications. The Athlon64 is much faster than
the P4 on all common computing tasks.

Would this include cpu demanding work such as video editing/conversion, 3D
rendering, etc ? or would P4 win out in this situation ? (All I ever see is
hype about how great Athlon64 is for games.. rarely a mention of anything
else)

Anyone suggest some benchmarks with things like large scale relational
database systems (Oracle for example), 3D rendering, etc ?

Regards,
Chris

 

[General Schvantzkoph]

Would this include cpu demanding work such as video editing/conversion, 3D
rendering, etc ? or would P4 win out in this situation ? (All I ever see is
hype about how great Athlon64 is for games.. rarely a mention of anything
else)

Anyone suggest some benchmarks with things like large scale relational
database systems (Oracle for example), 3D rendering, etc ?

Regards,
Chris

The only benchmarking that I've done is for Verilog simulation and FPGA
place and route. In those applications the Athlon 64 is much faster than
the P4. My benchmarks showed that the Athlon 64 3400+ (single DDR, 1M
Cache, 2.2GHz) was the twice as fast as a 2.66GHz Xeon, i.e. it's the
equivalen of a 5.2Ghz Xeon. Something like Oracle should see similar
performance. On 3D rendering you are not going to see the same gap because
the SSE3 instructions help the P4 to catch up to the Athlon 64. The review
sites generally show benchmarks for Video and 3D rendering, the Athlon 64
and the P4 are usually pretty close but for those apps. But the Athlon 64
gets it's performance by being a much faster general purpose computer
rather than having a few fast instructions whihc only accelerate a limited
number of applications.