ctrl+alt+del options

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badgolferman

My home computer is WXP PRO SP2. When I press CTRL+ALT+DEL the Task
Manager pops up. I want the window that gives a bunch of other options
(Lock Computer, Change Password, etc) instead. I do have the Welcome
page at reboot and want to keep it that way also.

My keyboard is old and doesn't have a Winkey, but I like it because of
the large Return key. How can I make the option dialogue pop up
instead of the Task Manager?
 
M

Matthew C.

Apparently, that window will only come up if your computer is part of a
domain. What I would suggest trying is right-clicking "My Computer",
selecting "Properties", and selecting the "Computer Name" tab. Click
the "Network ID" button, and try and add your computer to a fictional
network domain. Restart, and try Ctrl+Alt+Del again and see if it
works.
 
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Mike Brearley

You can't join a domain unless it exists. You can only join a workgroup if
no domain controller is available to accept your computer into the domain.
Also, once you're a memeber of a domain, you'll lose the welcom screen at
bootup (it'll be replaced by the traditional, press ctrl + alt + del to
logon window which badgolferman doesn't want).

As far as I know, without changing the logon screen to the traditional one
instead of the welcome screen, you can't access the windows security option
screen by pressing crtl + alt + del. There may be other ways to do it, but
someone else will have to answer that.

--
Mike

Posted as-is. Any spelling and/or grammar mistakes are a direct result of a
communication glitch between my brain and my fingers which may or may not be
directly related to a lack of caffeine intake.
 
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Wesley Vogel

Ctrl + Alt + Delete opens the Windows Security window if the Welcome screen
is turned off.

Turn the Welcome screen off...
1. In Control Panel, click User Accounts.
2. Click Change the way users log on or off.
3. Click to Clear the Use the welcome screen for fast and easy logon check
box.
4. Click OK.

Using CTRL+ALT+DEL Key Combination to Open Windows Security Opens Task
Manager
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281980

Disadvantages of having the Welcome Screen turned off.

Ctrl + Alt + Delete opens the Windows Security window if the Welcome screen
is turned off instead of opening the Task Manager.

The Welcome screen must be turned on to see the Users tab in Task Manager.
(Fast User Switching must also be turned on.)

Fast User Switching is available only when the Welcome screen is turned on.

Disabling the Welcome Screen removes the user picture from the XP Start
Menu. The Welcome Screen and the Start Menu use the same picture.

The only disadvantage that I see to having the Welcome Screen turned on is
that you get a lot of Failure Audits; Event ID 529 & 680.

Failure Events Are Logged When the Welcome Screen Is Enabled
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305822

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
 
R

Rock

My home computer is WXP PRO SP2. When I press CTRL+ALT+DEL the Task
Manager pops up. I want the window that gives a bunch of other options
(Lock Computer, Change Password, etc) instead. I do have the Welcome
page at reboot and want to keep it that way also.

My keyboard is old and doesn't have a Winkey, but I like it because of
the large Return key. How can I make the option dialogue pop up
instead of the Task Manager?

Turn off the Welcome Screen. If you need help with that search for welcome
screen in Start | Help and Support.
 
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badgolferman

Wesley said:
Ctrl + Alt + Delete opens the Windows Security window if the Welcome
screen is turned off.

Turn the Welcome screen off...

This is what I don't want to do.

I have different profiles set up for our home computer. My
three-year-old has his profile with his games to play. I need the
Welcome screen for him to choose his profile when I am logged off.

As an alternative choice, is there a way to Lock the computer through a
keyboard combination other than using the Winkey? How about a .bat
file?
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

badgolferman said:
My home computer is WXP PRO SP2. When I press CTRL+ALT+DEL the Task
Manager pops up. I want the window that gives a bunch of other
options (Lock Computer, Change Password, etc) instead. I do have the
Welcome page at reboot and want to keep it that way also.

My keyboard is old and doesn't have a Winkey, but I like it because of
the large Return key. How can I make the option dialogue pop up
instead of the Task Manager?


Why not simply buy a new keyboard with both a Windows key *and* a large
Enter key. They aren't expensive. For example, I quickly found this one
(http://www.provantage.com/key-tronic-e03601qususbb~7KTRN13W.htm or
http://tinyurl.com/3d696b) for $18.54 US. If you look around, you can
probably find something for even less money.
 
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badgolferman

Ken said:
Why not simply buy a new keyboard with both a Windows key and a large
Enter key. They aren't expensive. For example, I quickly found this
one (http://www.provantage.com/key-tronic-e03601qususbb~7KTRN13W.htm
or http://tinyurl.com/3d696b) for $18.54 US. If you look around, you
can probably find something for even less money.

That's not quite the answer I was looking for. Windows usually has 3-4
different ways of doing the same thing. The Winkey+L combo will allow
me lock the computer so there ought to be another way to do it. I have
found the one in the Task Manager, how about a way through the Start
Menu or a different keyboard shortcut?
 
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badgolferman

Wesley said:
Ctrl + Alt + Delete opens the Windows Security window if the Welcome
screen is turned off.

Turn the Welcome screen off...
1. In Control Panel, click User Accounts.
2. Click Change the way users log on or off.
3. Click to Clear the Use the welcome screen for fast and easy logon
check box.
4. Click OK.

Using CTRL+ALT+DEL Key Combination to Open Windows Security Opens Task
Manager
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281980

Disadvantages of having the Welcome Screen turned off.

Ctrl + Alt + Delete opens the Windows Security window if the Welcome
screen is turned off instead of opening the Task Manager.

The Welcome screen must be turned on to see the Users tab in Task
Manager. (Fast User Switching must also be turned on.)

Fast User Switching is available only when the Welcome screen is
turned on.

Disabling the Welcome Screen removes the user picture from the XP
Start Menu. The Welcome Screen and the Start Menu use the same
picture.

The only disadvantage that I see to having the Welcome Screen turned
on is that you get a lot of Failure Audits; Event ID 529 & 680.

Failure Events Are Logged When the Welcome Screen Is Enabled
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305822

I found this article:
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/pub0009/LPMArticle.asp?ID=70
 
P

Paul Johnson

badgolferman said:
My home computer is WXP PRO SP2. When I press CTRL+ALT+DEL the Task
Manager pops up. I want the window that gives a bunch of other options
(Lock Computer, Change Password, etc) instead. I do have the Welcome
page at reboot and want to keep it that way also.

You have asked for mutually exclusive features, thus eliminating all
possible solutions.
 
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Ramesh, MS-MVP

is there a way to Lock the computer through a keyboard combination

Is this what you're looking for?

Lock (Classic lock) Windows XP workstation with Welcome Screen and FUS enabled:
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/lockxp.htm

--
Regards,

Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows XP Shell/User]
Windows® XP Troubleshooting http://www.winhelponline.com


Ctrl + Alt + Delete opens the Windows Security window if the Welcome
screen is turned off.

Turn the Welcome screen off...

This is what I don't want to do.

I have different profiles set up for our home computer. My
three-year-old has his profile with his games to play. I need the
Welcome screen for him to choose his profile when I am logged off.

As an alternative choice, is there a way to Lock the computer through a
keyboard combination other than using the Winkey? How about a .bat
file?
 
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Bruce Chambers

badgolferman said:
My home computer is WXP PRO SP2. When I press CTRL+ALT+DEL the Task
Manager pops up. I want the window that gives a bunch of other options
(Lock Computer, Change Password, etc) instead.


Turn off the Welcome Screen and Fast User Switching.

I do have the Welcome
page at reboot and want to keep it that way also.


One or the other; you'll have to decide which feature is more important
to you.

My keyboard is old and doesn't have a Winkey, but I like it because of
the large Return key. How can I make the option dialogue pop up
instead of the Task Manager?

Turn off the Welcome Screen and Fast User Switching.

--

Bruce Chambers

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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

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Bruce Chambers

badgolferman said:
That's not quite the answer I was looking for. Windows usually has 3-4
different ways of doing the same thing. The Winkey+L combo will allow
me lock the computer so there ought to be another way to do it. I have
found the one in the Task Manager, how about a way through the Start
Menu or a different keyboard shortcut?


There at least 4 ways to lock a WinXP (Home or Pro) workstation,
any of which can be used, regardless of domain membership. (In fact,
I'm not aware of any method of locking a computer that's dependent upon
the presence of a domain.):

1) Use the Windows Key + L hot key.

2) You can press CTRL+ALT+DEL and then <ENTER>, once you've turned off
the Welcome Screen and Fast User Switching. (This is the default in a
domain environment, as FUS is contrary to the domain security paradigm.)

3) You can create a desktop shortcut with
"%windir%\System32\rundll32.exe user32.dll, LockWorkStation" in the
target field. (It is case-sensitive, BTW.) You can then assign a
keyboard shortcut.

4) Set a password protected screensaver, and wait the allotted time
without touching the mouse or keyboard.



--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
 
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badgolferman

Bruce said:
3) You can create a desktop shortcut with
"%windir%\System32\rundll32.exe user32.dll, LockWorkStation" in the
target field. (It is case-sensitive, BTW.) You can then assign a
keyboard shortcut.

This is the method I found in the article I posted. It works nicely.
Thank you for your informative reply.
 
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Andrew Murray

In TaskManager, those options are listed on the "Shutdown" menu.....
Standby
Hibertnate
Turn Off
Logoff [user]
Restart
Switch User.
 

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