Copying CDs

[John R. Sellers]

How do I copy CD to CD in Windows XP? Is this feature built-in, or do I
need a third-party app. like CloneCD?

 

[Patti MacLeod]

Hi John,

CD copying is not a function of XP's built-in CD recorder. You would need to
purchase a third-party software package. I don't believe that CloneCD is
available anymore.


Regards,

 

[dev]

/John R. Sellers/ said:

How do I copy CD to CD in Windows XP? Is this feature built-in, or do I
need a third-party app. like CloneCD?

The ability is built-in, but works via the interim step of saving to the
hard drive. Open Windows Media Player, click HELP|COPYING MUSIC FROM CDs

 

[John R. Sellers]

I don't believe that CloneCD is
available anymore.

Apparently not. My shareware version just expired today, and when I went to
register it, I got "164259 CloneCD 4 Online-Key international - not
available ."

 

[John R. Sellers]

The ability is built-in, but works via the interim step of saving to the
hard drive. Open Windows Media Player, click HELP|COPYING MUSIC FROM CDs

LOL. No grasshopper. I'm talkin' about copying a CD to another CDR (making
a copy of my Windows XP CD for backup purposes).

 

[John R. Sellers]

Hi John,

CD copying is not a function of XP's built-in CD recorder. You would need to
purchase a third-party software package.

You know of any freeware program to do this?

 

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

Apparently not. My shareware version just expired today, and when I
went to register it, I got "164259 CloneCD 4 Online-Key international
- not available ."

The website appears to be up and running at this address:

SlySoft - purchase:
http://www.slysoft.com/en/purchase.html

SlySoft Inc. Multimedia Solutions:
http://www.slysoft.com/en/



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[Patti MacLeod]

Sorry, no, I don't.


Regards,

 

[Alex Nichol]

How do I copy CD to CD in Windows XP? Is this feature built-in, or do I
need a third-party app. like CloneCD?

You can only do it with the built in burning by copying all the files to
hard disk and building a new CD from them. For a true copy you need
third party software

 

[John R. Sellers]

You can only do it with the built in burning by copying all the files to
hard disk and building a new CD from them.

I guess I'll try that cuz I can't pay $39.00 to register CloneCD.

It's probably to late to make suggestions for Service Pack 2 for XP Home
Edition, but a CD to CDR copier really needs to be added to XP sometime in
the NEAR future, maybe as a Windows Update, or included in SP3, or even in
the next version of Windows (Longhorn, is it?).

 

[myself]

I guess I'll try that cuz I can't pay $39.00 to register CloneCD.

It's been a very long time since I used Windows on my own machines so I've sort
of lost track of all the CD burning applications, but most of them used to drop
back to 1X after 30 days and then work perpetually at that speed until you
registered them. It's not a bad deal if you just need to make a few copies.

However, from the slysoft site it doesn't appear that the new CloneCD does
that. Perhaps you can find an older copy on a freeware site somewhere?

Failing that, you might try CDRWIN at <http://www.goldenhawk.com> or
<http://www.goldenhawk.de>. I don't know if they still do it but CDRWIN also
used to have a 1X mode until registered. It's not as easy to use as CloneCD,
though. I hear Nero's gotten very good so they may be worth a look, too.

You might also want to ask in alt.comp.freeware, or try the pricelessare pages

It's probably to late to make suggestions for Service Pack 2 for XP Home
Edition, but a CD to CDR copier really needs to be added to XP sometime in
the NEAR future, maybe as a Windows Update, or included in SP3, or even in
the next version of Windows (Longhorn, is it?).

Not likely to happen considering Microsoft's enthusiasm for DRM and what their
best buddies at the RIAA did to DAT and to MP3 players, and are now trying
their level best to do to CD burners.

 

[John R. Sellers]

Failing that, you might try CDRWIN at <http://www.goldenhawk.com> or
<http://www.goldenhawk.de>. I don't know if they still do it but CDRWIN also
used to have a 1X mode until registered.

Thanks. I'll check it out.

You might also want to ask in alt.comp.freeware

I'll do that.

Not likely to happen considering Microsoft's enthusiasm for DRM and what their
best buddies at the RIAA did to DAT and to MP3 players, and are now trying
their level best to do to CD burners.

Sounds like they don't give a damn about fair use.

 

[Alan White]

What is the purpose of making "a copy of my Windows XP CD for backup
purposes"? I thougt M$ CDs are quite robust and unlikely to be corrupted as
they are never writeable. Perhaps you are thinking of flogging it to a friend!
which may give trouble at the time of activation.

Perhaps I have known something new today I should start making backups of my
CDs.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

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What is the purpose of making "a copy of my Windows XP CD for backup
purposes"? I thougt M$ CDs are quite robust and unlikely to be
corrupted as they are never writeable.

All software CDs are never writeable, whether from Microsoft or
anyone else. But although they can't be corrupted, they can
easily be destroyed--bent, broken, or scratched, for example.

 

[myself]

What is the purpose of making "a copy of my Windows XP CD for backup
purposes"?

Read any book on system administration, the standard backup procedure for
important data involves at *least* two extra copies, with either the originals
or one set of copies being stored off-site in case something happens to the
building.

If you don't think your Windows CD is "important data", imagine where you'll be
if your home system crashes and when you try to fix it you suddenly find that
your Windows installation CD has become unreadable.

I thougt M$ CDs are quite robust and unlikely to be corrupted as they are
never writeable. Perhaps you are thinking of flogging it to a friend! which
may give trouble at the time of activation.

Then again, maybe the OP is just being prudent.

Perhaps I have known something new today I should start making backups of
my CDs.

You most definitely should. In the past decade of computing I've had more than
a few CD's go bad for no apparent reason. Usually they just stopped being
readable after a few years, but I once had an expensive Adobe Illustrator CD
develop a crack just sitting in its box. Also CD drives keep getting faster
each year, which means that CD's more than a year old may encounter rotational
speeds that they were never designed to handle. If they're not balanced for the
high speeds then vibration may shatter them or it may cause them to fly off
the hub and shatter or scratch against the inside of the drive. Over in the
cdrom groups we often hear screams of agony from people who lost important data
when their only copy self-destructed in a new high-speed drive.

CD's also become unreadable for the simple reason that they have a soft plastic
optical surface and we're only human. You fumble one and it scratches against
the box, you drop it and it skitters across the floor, you rush off to work
and thoughtlessly leave it sitting on a table where the sun warps it later in
the day, you leave the room for just a few minutes and the kids decide to use
it for a frisbee, etc.

 

[John R. Sellers]

What is the purpose of making "a copy of my Windows XP CD for backup
purposes"?

I was using that as an example. It can be any CD.

Maybe I should've put i.e. ("i.e.: making a copy of my Windows XP CD for
backup purposes") in front of it. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[John R. Sellers]

CD's also become unreadable for the simple reason that they have a soft plastic
optical surface and we're only human. You fumble one and it scratches against
the box, you drop it and it skitters across the floor

I've dropped quite a few of mine, and fortunately, they still work. I'm
getting better at not dropping them, and a few light fingerprints on them
don't seem to currupt them, but when I handle them, I stick my finger in the
hole. <evil chuckle>

I do think that CD manufacturers should have made a protective cover for CDs
and DVDs like the old 5.25 inch diskettes. Of course, CD drives and DVD
drives (as well as CD and DVD players) would have had to be re-designed like
5.25 drives.

Alas, it's too late for all this.

 

[myself]

I've dropped quite a few of mine, and fortunately, they still work. I'm
getting better at not dropping them, and a few light fingerprints on them
don't seem to currupt them, but when I handle them, I stick my finger in
the hole. <evil chuckle>

Usually they survive. But if you don't have a backup, they only have to "not
survive" once...

I do think that CD manufacturers should have made a protective cover for
CDs and DVDs like the old 5.25 inch diskettes. Of course, CD drives and
DVD drives (as well as CD and DVD players) would have had to be
re-designed like 5.25 drives.

I absolutely agree. I've always advocated a hardcover for CD's. You can get
generic floppies for a dime apiece so a hardcover should only add pennies to
the cost of the media.

Alas, it's too late for all this.

If I were a CD manufacturer, I'd put out a drive that uses a cheap plastic
hardcover you could snap over your discs. Sell the drive cheap and make your
profit selling the covers.

 

[Peter Hutchison]

How do I copy CD to CD in Windows XP? Is this feature built-in, or do I
need a third-party app. like CloneCD?

Yes you can do this (although it will not copy any non-visible items
such as ability to boot of it).
1. Open folder to c:\documents and settings\username\Local
Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\CD Burning
2. Open contents of your CD Drive
3. Press Ctrl+A to select contents of your CD to copy, press Ctrl+C to
copy it.
4. Switch to CD Burnng folder above.
5. Press Ctrl+V
6. Insert a CDR disc
7. Refresh window, and you should see the files to burn to CD.
8. Select 'Burn Files to CD'
9. Follow instructions on screen.

Peter Hutchison
Windows FAQ
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